Re: Acidic +++++++ *orthophos info bomb* Re: ultra-phos drops

Mike,

Regarding this:

>>>orthophosphoric acid can do wonders and is great to balance autonomic nervous system and help calcium metabolism and energy production.<<<

Could you please point me to the places/site where you obtained this information...especially what you're stating about the autonomic nervous system and energy production? I read a blurb on a sellers site about the calcium metabolism (and something else was mentioned somewhere else in my searches regarding calcium), but both pieces of information I read weren't documented in any way. And of course, in light of this: "Too much in diet leads to loss of calcium in bones and onset of osteoporosis", I'm obviously led to wonder HOW orthophosphoric acid affects calcium metabolism. If it breaks down the calcium in 'rock supplements' the same way it effects calcium in bones, then it's 'valid' to say "orthosphoric acid helps to metabolize calcium"...but there's bound to be (and there are) more natural/safe ways to assimilate calcium that taking something that is known to cause bones to degrade.

For me, it's imperative to learn, firstly, if these statements are valid; and secondly if they are, then by what action are they true, and how does this 'energy production', 'calcium metabolism' and 'balance to the autonomic nervous system' occur. That's the kind of knowledge I/anyone needs to get to the truth of how something interacts in the body. Heck, it's true & valid that caffeine, cocaine & Ritalin help 'energy production' and all kinds of effects to the autonomic nervous system can be seen when taking psych pharmaceuticals (and many other dangerous drugs & substances). Hence, a statement about the action of a substance can be factual, but that doesn't mean it's healthy or natural.

Please don't think I'm accusing or attacking you -or anyone- personally; I'm simply attempting to validate the 'claim'. Knowledge & understanding is vital to natural health & healing, and we've been hoodwinked for SO long by 'medical science' and the Powers That Be (and sellers of "natural" products and healers that are more interested in ego than the truth), that it's wise to never accept anything from anyone regarding all chemical substances...and even some that Nature created. Dr. Kelley is on my top five "natural healers I respect highly list" (he saved my m-i-l's life), but that doesn't mean there's not a safer way to soften stones than orthophosphoric acid (or that the average person has any business putting a HALF CUP of Epsom Salts in a coffee enema), or that any successful healer's regimes & protocols don't have room for improvement. Gerson, Kelley, Schulze, Christopher, Clark never stopped researching, learning, testing and 'upgrading' their knowledge & protocols.

>>>When used intelligently,<<<

I guess that means different things to different folks. Ingesting something into my body that has been used and documented to destroy tooth enamel, weaken & degrade bones and dissolve a nail doesn't have an 'intelligent use' in the human body to this ole gal...but I strongly believe in TRULY natural 'natural health & healing'...and will never knowingly ingest any type of chemical or isolated extract unless I need it to accomplish a true cure and there's absolutely no other truly natural option at my disposal.

>>>drinking CocaCola/Pepsi at much higher levels than recommended dosage of phosphood/ortho phos (they are after all phosphoric acid and sugar and will too dissolve a nail). The Coke liver flush uses this knowledge to dissolve gallstones as well.<<<

Which brings up a good 'point for pondering'. Just how much orthophosphoric acid is concentrated in a small bottle of Orthophos that is ingested in a weeks time? Enough for a six pack of Coke/Pepsi? A twelve pack? A case? More? Less? I've NEVER found that data ANYWHERE (and I've searched HARD). Kelley had folks add a full bottle in a gallon of cider/juice, Doc Sutter adds 90 drops to a quart of cider 3 times (270 drops). How much is that in relationship to the amount needed to degrade/damage bones? I sure hope 'those in the know' will share...any clues at all would be helpful. How much orthosphosphoric acid is there in Coke/Pepsi/soda compared to what one would ingest for say, 20 liver flushes. It could be the ratios/levels would be far less/safer than one would imagine, but it could be that '20 flushes worth' of orthosphos has potential to do some serious long-term damage. (And of course, just like the harm that's incurred by using 'rock calcium supplements' that have an immediate alkalizing/symptom relieving effect, but the body can't assimilate them and then has to place the 'rock dust' in bone spurs, kidney stones, stiffened joints/ligaments and thickened blood), and that kind of 'harm' might not show up for years/decades.

I've been typing this for almost an hour and just flipped over to see if anyone's posted anymore - this is lookin' to be a GREAT thread!. And I hope you all know, I am a 'hard core' believer in liver flushing - and no matter how one flushes, it's important to flush 'till clean (and then flush again at least 4 times yearly for maintenance). Of course, we all have our personal preferences...yet I think it's REALLY important that we make our choices based on all the sound knowledge we can get our hands (and brains) on...I doubt there's any of us that hasn't been hoodwinked by somebody offering information about natural healing, and the more we can do to prevent that, the healthier we'll be (and the faster we'll get & stay there!).

Flush ON -

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