Dear Moreless..
..*PLEASE*
Just lettum dry up and blow away, OK? They haven't *got* money. All they have is a *mouth*. Keep giving 'em all the rope they want, with which they will certainly hang themselves sooner or later, OK?
Ya know, there is an actual Forum Owner on Curezone whom I regard as a dangerously-imbalanced zealot, who thinks they are in a pi$$ing contest against the rest of the world. They rant, they *rage*, against one very famous and well-published author (Who has done a lot of good for a lot of people), in order to constantly rag on that very author's work to market their own products. If that author ever quits publishing, he'll be out of business [humor].
I can almost tell from the way you are acting who it is that is the problem, and I have not even been to the Debate Forum to look.
I am for *you* and *what you have to teach us, here*, Dear Moreless :-). I recognize the 'Ring Of Truth' when I hear it. It comes from here, not there.
Your intelligence and the non-mercenary effort you put forth here is wasted on them. Your strength and independence is lost upon them. The fact that you indirectly point out that others don't need them is a threat to them. Your self-assuredness is foreign to them.
They *can not* come over to you in this, because the *foundation* of your stance is unfamiliar territory to them. They cannot stand the same way, stay upright, face you, and carry on a civil conversation.. You cannot make them drink the water. Don't let 'em sucker you in either.
My $.02: Disengage yer flywheel.
Namaste,
Ladylove
..I hope you will receive this post in the spirit in which I have intended it. I have Faith that you will..