I don't see you posting any worth while information, mud dauber! Nothing new any way ,just the party line dogma! They told you how it was 30yrs ago and you you never once looked to see if thier was another possibilty, never questioned the gods of your religion! Science and time has stopped for you, your mind is filled with the same pulp you where fed years ago, nothing changes everything stays the same1 Your icons told you so!