Thanks so much for this Doc! I have surfed and posted on the bugs forums and then decided to come back here. I always do. You ALWAYS know just what to say and how to say it! WHEN to say it, too! I was about crying this morning, working post my 4th liver flush and still seeing skins of something as big as a rattlesnake coming out, loads of the fluke pieces and how many? other types of bugs. It gets discouraging. You wonder when you finally get a handle on all this, if it is the bugs or you that is going to weigh more in the end. It is a battle you just have to keep plugging away at. There just has to be light at the end of the tunnel. Do things right and in proper order and keep at it! Nothing more we can or want to do. Thanks again! There has to be life after bugs!!!