very interesting...I start wondering if it's just me that has no results with some protocols. I try a lot of things, often don't have much success. now and then I hit on something, so then I know it's one they are sensitive too. but it's still not easy, if I do the same thing again, it usually doesn't work. I just keep cycling things that I know have had effect at least before, and experiment with dose. sometimes I feel like I'm running down the wrong path, but I just try to listen to my body as best I can. usually with most things they don't like, I can feel that pretty easy. right now I'm taking neem oil and lemongrass and they hate it...but they aren't leaving, yet. we'll see.