North American Union, drivers license hologram images, ameros, national ID cards, loss of health and other individual freedoms, implanted chips . . . this is what it is all about and it is reason to be very, very afraid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo&mode=related&search=
Probably the most important film you will ever see, what we do about it will determine the fate of mankind. We can wake up and stop it while there is still time, or we will surely wake up to a nightmare and the time for sleeping grows shorter each day. I fear that it may already be too late, as many contingency plans appear to already be inplace to take control and create justifications for doing so if the need arises.
Consider just this: what would any of us do if the internet and communications were taken out. How would we organize or resist or know what was really happening except what we were told on the government controlled battery operated radios we huddled around for the latest official announcements and instructions?.
I KNOW you don't want to believe this scenario, but that does not make it untrue.
I came to these forums to help as best I could, learn as much as I could and share all that I could. If I do not share this I will have been grossly remiss - even if it causes some to doubt my sanity or credibility - because if we let the nightmare that has been long planned for us happen, none of what I came here for will really matter. None of the debates or the concerns about a myriad of issues we have all discussed and came here to find help on will matter. All of that and virtually every other aspect or our lives will be carefully controlled and monitored.
DQ
PS - the full Lou Dobbs CNN broadcast that is excerpted in the above video may be seen in Grzz's post below or here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA&mode=related&search=
Yes, I had that same email message when I made the post. It all ties in and supports the message I posted - but in bits and pieces. The side pieces to the puzzle are vital and scary alright. But the puzzle revealed in full is a clear and present danger that is horrifying and monumental. The ultimate plan for mankind's doom
If people like we have at CureZone do not wake up and see what is going on, what chance do we have with the rest of the world, Chris? Oh man, I love this world and nature and I love humanity too, despite all it's faults and frailties and inspite of my rants against the empire. And so I shall remain the eternal optimist helping as I can as long as I can and hoping until the end inspite of all odds. But make no mistake, this is for real. It is not some fringe lunatic element, for Chrissakes, it is Lou Dobbs and CNN and Aaron Russo and the recorded statements of a Warburg and Rockefeller that are there for all to see if they will but open their eyes.
As the video quoted: Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and if we let this happen we will all be in thrall to an absolutely corrupt power. I know what I call that power. It is evil incarnate. Mankind has been on the brink before, but has managed to pull back at the edge of the precipice. Think of the mid 2oth century with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, the brink of nuclear war . . . but we have never been this close to seeing a plan for world domination put all the pieces together - something modern technology has made possible. Perhaps the closest is the series of conquests of Asia and Europe that predated the Dark Ages, an even darker version of which may be at hand.
Never have the powers behind the plan been so blatantly open, and they have stayed the course for generations and been several moves ahead of us lambs every step of the way as we have been led to slaughter. In that sense, the video underestimates the enemy - the plans do not span mere decades, they span centuries and multiple generations. One has only to trace the history of the Rothschilds (literally "red sheilds") - they with their red pentagram family symbol who have controlled the world banks and governments and shaped events for centuries. They, the illuminati, Bittenburgs, Warburgs, Rockefellers, Morgans, et al, and the Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, Skull and Bones, Masons and more have remained largely hidden but to themselves until now.
The openness with which they proceed now with their plans, often in plain sight with little or no regards for discovery tells me that they feel more each day that they have gotten far enough along that do not believe thay can be stopped now (though I fervently hope that they have let their arrogance mislead them). Look now at the many measures in place enabling our federal government to seize control if any large-scale opposition did begin to threaten. A flu outbreak, or any perceived threat to national security, such as a so-called terrorist by the non-existent people in caves Rockefeller told Russo about in the video, and all power can be seized via already signed presidential directives - directives which also provide for any who stand in opposition to such homeland security measures as traitors subject to immediate imprisonment and seizure of assets.
We have already been pre-conditioned to scenarios that will enable the seizure of power to happen. And by and large we have believed those scenarios, obvious as it is to some that they are contrived. Should such an event happen, real or contrived, all it will take is knocking out the power grid and controlling or shutting down communications (largely the satelites) and the internet - child's play for those behind the plans. We have even been pretty much told what will happen if it does come to that - with the Homeland Security recommendation to get radios that run on battery power and hand cranks so we can listen to the only voices they want us to hear. And how long the coup will take if there needs to be one (Homeland Security has instructed us to make sure we have a THREE DAY supply of food and water).
Homeland Security is a hoax. A cruel joke played upon our fears and unwillingness to see what is at the end of our sheepish noses. "What is happening?" "I don't know dear, let's turn on our Homeland radios." "It must be baaa-aaaa-aaaa-aad." How can we be so easily duped? All the ruse about more agents and fences on the Mexican border? What a crock - a border with the country we are soon intended to welcome to the family table? Our new border will be with Guatemala (or should I say the South American Union?), just like it says in the video. Besides that, stop and think just for a minute everyone. We have thousands of miles of largely unprotected coastline, containers arriving daily at our seaports by the thousands with only a handful - a tiny fraction - being inspected. and a virtually open border with Canada, miles and miles of which are completely unguarded including numerous roads wiht no more than a sign to designate which country you are in.
And then there are all the other little unguarded Achilles heels we fail to see while our heads are covered with sand: We have HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF MILES of unprotected municipal water supply shorelines and dams. Tens of thousands of overpasses. How many schools and churches? Sporting arenas and other gathering places. Hi-rise office buildings? Shopping malls? Grocery stores?
Take any one you want. How about overpasses. What do you think a small number of mobile hit and run sniper teams might do there? Do you think the truckers would still run until their safety could be assured? And we have at best a three day supply of groceries in our stores and gas in our stations even without a run on groceries and gas - both of which depend on continuous re-supply by truckers. Lack of gas brings us to a standstill. lack of groceries brings complete breakdown into lawlessness.
And where are those who would protect and save us from real terrorists or a plot to seize power? Our brave and patriotic lads and lasses who should be here to protect us and who would be most likely to save us are spread thin on the other side of the world gamely fighting a contrived war and sewing hatred for America while we at home are lulled to sleep by "reality" TV shows and sporting events. And our greatest generation is all but gone, though you can bet they would still provide a number of Ron Paul heroes.
The powers of darkness already have control of our national bank and our constitutional authority to print money has been ceded to them. The many different media owners of just a decade or so ago are mostly gone and only a mere handful who are ALL part of the insiders now control our every media outlet of note. We have raised nary a peep as our freedoms are taken away one by one under the guise of national security and our constitutional rights trampled and ignored. Despite widespread opposition and votes, plans to form global unions that will make our entire constitution null and void speed merrily ahead with new drivers license and money designs, a national ID program and chips that track us and will ultimately control us (or at least our ability to function in the new world order we will find ourselves in. That is not my fantasy - it is there for all to see and the words have been reported straight from Rockefeller's mouth.
Worse still, we have been tested and have failed miserably. Putting aside the questions of 9/11 and contrived wars present and likely near future, and our loss of liberties one by one - one has only to look at what happened on your turf Chris - when the London bombings occured at the exact same time, in the exact same places and on the exact same targets down to the very bus that each and every one part of an ongoing civil drill. The odds of happenstance stretch into the trillions and trillions to one. And yet they pulled it off. What reason do they now think that they have to hide anything or that any scheme is not achievable?
Chris, the only saving grace, if there is one is this: If the plans in the video hold, it will still take a bit of time and incremental steps to achieve. So the master plan is still to proceed deliberately so long as they are largely unopposed and it is not likely to happen tomorrow. But it is drawing rapidly closer - to the point that I wonder if we have the time to stop it even if we awaken and find the willpower. We have become fat, we have become lazy, and we have become conditioned. Is there enough of the spirit of our founding fathers that continued on through our greatest generation still here to save us.
And if somehow we do find that enough of that spirit and will, can we succeed now that they clearly have laid the groundwork for contingency plans to stop any widespread swell of opposition in just the manner outlined above.
This all may pass and become largely forgotten, but it will not have stopped. It is clock that was wound long ago and I fear that it will keep ticking steadily away until the hands reach midnight for us all.
DQ
So, what about this coin. You said it looked like a hoax. It did to me, too. They cannot be serious about the pictures chosen for the coins. I do not think they were minted by the US gov't. I think they were made up as fantasy coins.
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=960849
Snopes sure has a lot to say about them:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp
and what do you make of this first NAU license plate, which was a link on the bottom of that first link on the post?
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57502
The coins MSNBC thinks are a reality; They didn't say whether there has been any made.
The images of coins that have shown up on the internet may or may not be real. As may other items. I have no doubts that some things are deliberately fake and planted on purpose. But the plan is there, and if the images of a coin or a plate or an ID card are not real, rest uneasy that real ones or real plans exist. Plant one lie and brand the whole plan a lie. It is a timeless plan that has worked time and again.
To me though, it would be like the FDA approving a drug that really was safe and using that to maintain that all of their approved drugs were safe. History and facts tell us otherwise.
DQ
Not nearly as much as ignorance will. And ignorance will destroy us all.
A person can be paranoid and still be correct. Sometimes people have very good reasons for paranoia to some extent. Ignorance on the other hand . . .
DQ
Well, if I am ignorant then so are my parents and everyone I know, because none of them believe in any 9/11 conspiracy. We know the gov't is corrupt, it always has been. Mexico's is way worse than ours. But, I have time on my side. This conspiracy nonsense will die out and come to pass. It never does any good, just makes people have screwed up lives because they sit around thinking of all this stuff when their time and energies could be better utilized on other things. Conspiracy theory has been around forever, so their were folks just like you years back.
A case can be made for both sides, but if someone is claiming something, the burden of proof is on them. Therefore, prove the Government was behind blowing up the world trade center. You cannot.
Yeah, much better to be entertained and not think about such things. Here is an interesting game from 1995. Note the name of it and the playing cards running down the left side of the page.
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm
What are the odds? Pretty steep wouldn't you think?
Of course not nearly as steep as the odds of the London Bombings happening at the exact same time as a civil defense drill was being conducted that included the exact same target right down to the exact same bus as really happened. Those odds were calculated far beyond trillions to one. The odds of the playing cards being so uncannily accurate, along with the name of the game, are merely in the pretty close to impossible range.
Yes, you are right - there have always been conspiracy theories. And there have always been conspiracies. The wilder conspiracy theories, some of which may have been encouraged by those who stood to benefit from them, serve as a wonderful cover for real conspiracies being carried out.
Ignorant is not a deragatory term in the sense of a character flaw or failing - it is merely meant to be unaware, as is the definition of ignorance.
When I began to look into natural health I was woefully ignorant of the truth and the conspiracies against it. The same was true when I began to look at those who are involved in the conspiracy against natural health and other freedoms.
They are not unconnected.
DQ
My opinion is if you call someone something that needs to be explained later, don't call them that in the first place.
As to your conspiracy theory, you are in the minority, so me addressing it is pretty silly. Those who think our Government blew up the trade centers and going to go on thinking it. Everyone needs a hobby.
Sorry - I figured using words as they were defined in the dictionary was acceptable. Does the same not hold true with "silly" and "paranoid" - neither of which I agreed with, but neither of which I objected to?
I am not going to waste any further time having a running debate on everything I post that you disagree with in a non-debate forum. After this post, you may have the last word, or last post however you want.
Most major events in history are the results of people getting together and "conspiring" to cause things to happen. Just because there are conspiracy theories that are way out there does not mean that all conspiracies theories are way out there. And just because you do not believe something or know about it or want it to happen does not make it untrue or keep it from happening.
If I see someone standing in the middle of the road and a semi-truck bearing down on them from behind and I yell "Lookout - a truck is coming" and that person says, "no there isn't, you are just imagining it or trying to scare me!" then I have done all I can.
What I see coming is a lot worse than a truck. And it has been coming for a long, long time. All a person has to do to see it is look.
If you do, here is the train you will find bearing down on you:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=963026#i
BTW, I don't think "we" blew up the world trade center. I think "they" did. We just disagree on who "they" are.
A final thought and this debate between us is over as far as I am concerned:
If you believe that a small group of Muslim zealots controlled by leader who hid in caves could pull off 9/11, what do you suppose a much larger group of the world's wealthiest and most powerful people in positions of control and influence throughout the world might be able to pull off with decades or more of planning?
DQ
The terrorists planned an attack for 5 years and implimented it. That's it, period. We had no involvement in their attack. I'm not really sure what you are arguing.
Some people consider the word ignorant offensive; It has a perjorative connotation in our society. But, it didn't bother me much considering what it was to do with..conspiracy issues.
"What I see coming is a lot worse than a truck."
As I said, everyone needs a hobby. If you want to argue conspiracy theory, you can always go there or the political forum and debate, I see you have been there before discussing it.
Here is a very good book by an Expert which addresses and dispells all those so-called inaccuracies:
Editorial Reviews
From Booklist
Expanding on an article published in Popular Mechanics in March 2005, the staff of the highly regarded magazine painstakingly deconstructs many of the myths surrounding the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Drawing on interviews with engineers, aviation experts, military officials, eyewitnesses, and investigators, this book addresses only those questions raised by conspiracy theorists, mostly that somehow the U.S. government was behind the attacks, and puts forth no theory of its own. Each section announces a theory, discloses the major proponents behind the theory, and deconstructs the theories specifically surrounding the World Trade Center (the fires could not have melted the steel in the structure), the Pentagon (the holes in the building were too small to have been made by a Boeing 757), and United Flight 93 (that it was actually shot down by an air force plane). The afterword details how Popular Mechanicsitself was accused of being part of the conspiracy to support the administration. Although it isn't likely to stop conspiracy theorists, this book offers sound information for readers to ponder. Vanessa Bush
Copyright © American Library Association. All rights reserved
Review
“There is no time to waste. You must purchase Debunking 9/11 Myths.” —Rocky Mountain News
“Certainly one of the most original—and potentially controversial—titles on the topic.” —Publishers Weekly
“Do you have a friend who emails you the most recent documentary ‘proving’ that a missile impacted the Pentagon or that timed explosions brought down WTC-7? Buy him a copy of this book. He’ll thank you later.”—Weekly Standard
Book Description
Conspiracy theories about Sept. 11, 2001 continue to spread. Now, in a meticulous, scientific and groundbreaking new book, Popular Mechanics puts these rumors to rest. The magazine’s editors analyze the 20 most persistent claims underlying 9/11 conspiracy theories—and conclusively disprove each one. The result is a triumph of hard fact over conspiratorial fantasy.
I fear that I am already am coming across like a foaming at the mouth lunatic here, but you could very well be right. You heard what Aaron had to say on the video in my post I trust, and you have likely seen his movie America From Freedom to Fascism (if not, I will send a copy to you and anyone else who wants one). Do you think it likely that those who hold the power would like those words and all they reveal and imply turned into a major movie?
At any rate, whether by disease or design, a true patriot and friend's voice is now silent and we can only honor his memory, cherish his legacy and use his example for inspiration.
Now that our brave friend and patriot has passed on, I can tell you that America From Freedom to Fascism was not going to be his only expose. Bigger ones were in the works - including one I was asked to help with about the very profession and it's masters whose hands he unbelievably placed his life in despite being begged not to (gneerations of brainwashing with the big lie die hard even for us who should know better). I have no doubt that his words in the video would have been a preview of something much bigger if he were not silenced by disease or otherwise.
When you know, as I pretty much do, who is really behind the power in the world today, you also know that there is nothing they will not do to insure that they succeed. No deed is too evil and no life too precious. How could one life stand in their way when they have killed thousands at the drop of a hat?
DQ
That is ok - it will likely be burned or banned anyway. JK. I hope.
Send me your address via private email and I will send you a copy.
I highjly, highly suggest you find some speakers for the video!
How do you get people to listen? I wish I knew. I do know that first you have to speak.
DQ
Bless your heart Raynbo, I know exactly what you mean. They have so brainwashed the public not to listen to the truth. They laugh at the so called conspiracy theorist. Yet, we have a film of OsamaBinLaden 10 years ago at least being doctored up with all kinds of threats and everybody believes it. ooooh aaaaah. His beard neatly trimmed and dyed so they tell us. And we are eating this up.
DQ don't worry about sounding like a lunatic. Anyone speaking the truth sounds like a lunatic. I am classified as one. I watched the debate the night it was aired. If you check out the links on the forum you will see. I think on Chris' posting. Speaking of one man crying in the wilderness, Ron Paul was out on an island all by himself with the surrounding sharks doing their best to annihalate him. Despite the panel and moderators laughing and making snyde remarks that could be easily heard, he stood there and spoke the truth. When attacked by Huckelby (spelling?), he stood his ground and did not waver. Yet he was made to appear like a lunatic and to many he is. How sad when people cannot see the truth. How sad that they can be so blindly decieved. Yet he continues his fight for justice. One man. And if this one man does not prevail, I shudder to think what will happen. This man is a hero.
The life we live is about to change if We, the People, do not stand up to the President, actually, our entire government, save a few. We cannot let this happen. Are we so complascent with our lifestyle which is steadily getting worse day by day that we don't care? When will we get it? I'm afraid that some will never get it. They will be enslaved and chipped still living in their own little world.
North Carolina already has a driver's license with the North American Union on it. We are there folks. It's just a matter of them lining everything up for their final plan. As DQ pointed out, once this happens, we have lost everything. We will be at the mercy of the government, doctors, Big Pharma with nothing to protect us.
We have heard rumblings of the New World Order since this President's father was in office. Now the son gets to pull it all together.
We are about to lose all of our freedoms. We need Ron Paul. Let's please wake up. Or forever hold our peace.
One last thing..... Snopes says that the Amero is not real? That is totally scary. Have they infiltrated Snopes too? Regardless what Snopes or anybody says, the Amero is very real and waiting in the wings to replace our monetary system.
Luella
Actually, Ron Paul got the best audience responses and won the debate handily according to voters.
And the Bush connection to the New World Order crowd is well documented and known to those who care to find out. Google "Bush Warburg Connection" for example. If you never have, you will be shocked.
Ah, what the heck. let me shock you myself - here is the first page such a search returns:
The connections between the Bush Family and the Nazis. ... Max Warburg selected by Prescott Bush to be the American Ship & Commerce Line official ... www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/timeline.html - 43k - |
In this connection we note that the original `` Merchant of Death, ... Prescott Bush's American Ship and Commerce Corp. notified Max Warburg of Hamburg, ... www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel. |
Connection between George H. W. Bush and The Warburg Family. No connection to Dillon Read should forget the Warburg money tied to it. ... www.politicalfriendster.com/ |
The Warburg Family. This became Warburg Dillon Read. ... New rules for outsourcing let Bush and old buddy Brady, head of Dillon Read- Bechtel help step up ... www.politicalfriendster.com/ [ More results from www.politicalfriendster.com ] |
Max Warburg selected by Prescott Bush to be the American Ship & Commerce ..... Appendix 4: Timeline of Treason: The Bush Family Connections to the Nazis ... www.country-liberal-party.com/pages/Bush-Nazi-links.htm - 48k - |
Walker, Bush, & Harriman now owned one third of Flick’s conglomerate, ... A further pertinent connection: Max Warburg’s brothers ran the Kuhn Loeb ... www.spectrezine.org/resist/bush.htm - 44k - |
Prescott Bush's American Ship and Commerce Corp. notified Max Warburg of Hamburg ... banking connection was that of the Jewish banking firm of M.M. Warburg. ... www.etherzone.com/2004/lang061504.shtml - 25k - |
In the 1940s, the Warburg connection to Hitler was exposed in a startling book by ... E.H. Harriman was the company George Jr.'s grandfather, Prescott Bush, ... www.rense.com/general49/hhee.htm - 49k - |
During this period, Samuel Prescott Bush was president of the Buckeye Steel .... A further pertinent connection: Max Warburg’s brothers ran the Kuhn Loeb ... www.georgewalkerbush.net/bushfamilyhistory.htm - 30k - |
Summary of Bush Family Nazi Connections from National Archives ..... IG Farben was led, up until 1937 by the Warburg family, Rockefeller's partners in ... www.iwilltryit.com/fourthrieich1.htm - 1k - |
Awesome post DQ. I am familiar with with all this information. Thank you for posting it for all to read. Something else interesting to Google? Skull and Bones.
Luella