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Good explanation by Moreless
Hi Ya'll,
So, "WE" think "WE" are getting something better when "WE" Buy Organic foods ?
Maybe "WE" should Wise up and get "OURSELF" a Refractometer and Learn the "Truth" ?
Do "WE" also believe that Organic Foods do not have any Herbicides and or Pesticides in them ?
Guess again !!!!!!!!!!!!
Do "YOU" know what it means for a Herbicide or Pesticide to have a 50 year 1/2 Life ?
Did "YOU" know that this may mean that it takes 50 years for this to Break down "ONLY" 50% of it's "Poison" Effects to Plant and Animal and Mankind ?
Did "YOU" know that "ANY" Herbicide or Pesticide , which has been sprayed into the Air as an application may drift for over 400 miles in the air ?
So, what happens when it then rains and takes this out of the air into the soil 400 miles away from where it was applied ?
What was that "YOU" Claimed that "YOU" "ONLY" eat Orgainc Foods, which do not have any Herbicides or Pesticides in them ?
How many times have I heard someone here on curezone tell me that "they" eat "ONLY" Organic foods and thus they eat Healthy, but for some reason "they" are having these Different Health problems ????????
Who do "WE" think "WE" are trying to Fool ?
Any food grown on this planet may have some Poison in it , which may have not been directly used on the present growing crop ?
Now, I am not suggesting we eat foods which are grown with heavy present usage of Poison's used to grow them !
But, what I am trying to point out is that what we may think is free of these Poison's may be just an illusion in our minds ?
And that just because the Government calls it Organic or has allowed a Organic stamp of approval to be applied to the food, does not make it any Better than any other foods !!!!!!!!!
For, "IF" any Herbicides or Pesticides have been used on the soil or nearby since the land was farmed from the begining, then the plants presently growing on this land are going to contain some amounts of "Every" Poison ever used !!!!!!!!!!
"IF" "YOU" do not beleive me, then "WHY" do the penguins at the north pole have DDT in their Fat ?????????????
They sure did not spray DDT on themself !!!!!!!!
So, what Hope is left for a person who is Sick and Diseased because of this problem and of the Poor Quality of the foods ?
Buy yourself a Refractometer and Wise up and learn to select the Best Quality of Highest Mineralized foods, which may be available to you and your Family, "IF" "YOU" Hope to have "ANY" chance of becomming Healthy or becomming Healthy !
For at least this way "WE" may be able to have some food, which has enough needed Alkaline Minerals to help Buffer some of these Poisons?
One is going to be much Better off to find foods to eat, which are of the Highest Alkaline Mineral content, than if it is called Organic or not !
Sorry to Bust the Bubble for those Organic Fans ?
Seek the Truth and the Truth shall set "US" Free !
Choose Life or Death this day !
Smile Tis your choice.
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- Re: --Organic Foods ?--Herbicide and... traderdrew
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This is a reply to # 938,751While I don't go as far as to disagree with Moreless here. I would say that he is not painting the whole picture. There is also the aspect of how your mind and emotions effect your overall health. Ponder on this:
http://www.brucelipton.com/store/biology-of-belief
Your bibliography becomes your biology. - Carolyn Myss
- Re: --Organic Foods ?--Herbicide and... Celcius
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MoreThis is a reply to # 939,017Although I cant pick up the link I fail to see the connection between this simple post on the falacies of the organic label and the almost religious theory of your post! I dont beleive ML was trying to paint a universal all encompassing picture ,just exposing a common misconception!
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This is a reply to # 939,043
How many times have I heard someone here on curezone tell me that "they" eat "ONLY" Organic foods and thus they eat Healthy, but for some reason "they" are having these Different Health problems ????????
Who do "WE" think "WE" are trying to Fool ?That cut and paste above is why I posted what I did. When I read that I had the impression that he thinks he knows what it is that is causing health problems. Notice how he used quotation marks and capitalizes certain words. He is correct with certain cases.
I have alluded and hinted about energy techniques and how they apply to health issues here on Curezone. I have not written about all the benefits of the energy techniques I have learned. Would you believe me if I told you that I have diagnosed and wiped out hidden viruses in my body in minutes? Call it religious if you want to. I am a born again Christian.
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- Re: --Organic Foods ?--Herbicide and... Naturalist
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This is a reply to # 939,139Would you please share with me what energy techniques you speak of and there benefits. And I am interested in any books you would recommend on the subject.
I am a born again Christian too....Thank you!- Re: --Organic Foods ?--Herbicide and... traderdrew
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This is a reply to # 939,147You can read up on EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique). I found out about this from Dr. Mercola. The more advanced form of energy healing is Quantum Techniques. I have studied others but I don't feel comfortable with some other forms of energy techniques.
http://www.emofree.com
http://www.quantumtechniques.com
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This is a reply to # 939,553I am familiar with Quantum Touch. Quantum Techniques is much different. For one thing Quantum Techniques doesn't require someone else to heal you.
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This is a reply to # 939,139"Would you believe me if I told you that I have diagnosed and wiped out hidden viruses in my body in minutes?"
Absolutely!!!
"Call it religious if you want to."
I don't see it as religious, I see it as spiritual. To Me, religion is a system not a belief, whereas spirituality is a belief.
I believe energy work does not consititute the need for any type of belief other than it is going to work.
What type of energy work is it that you have "alluded and hinted about energy techniques and how they apply to health issues here on Curezone."?
Love, Light and Peace,
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This is a reply to # 939,190
What type of energy work is it that you have "alluded and hinted about energy techniques and how they apply to health issues here on Curezone."?
Everyone is a different individual. It seems personal issues many people wouldn't share here on Curezone can have a lot to do with their health. Such a situation would be a concious conflict. This is where someone doesn't believe in a situation that they are living in. Another would be a belief that the world isn't a safe place. I believe beliefs can be inherited energtically based on a study that was done with lab rats. I also have experimented with objects that have frequencies. I believe various exercises affect your energy other than biochemically in some ways.
- Re: --Organic Foods ?--Herbicide and... traderdrew
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This is a reply to # 939,139Although I have no problems with your beliefs I still do not see the connection as you claim to the simple message of ML!
And have no doubts or contradictions that you truly beleive what you claim and understand wanting to get this message out to others, I however truly dont beleive his message in anyway diminishes or dismisses or excludes your theories!- Re: --Organic Foods ?--Herbicide and... traderdrew
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This is a reply to # 939,285The point was taken that you can eat organic foods but these foods will probably still have toxins such as pesticides in them. Fine. I am sure the amounts of toxins in organic produce isn't nearly as high as it is with conventional produce.
According to information I have read from Dr. Mercola organic produce has higher amounts of nutrients than conventional produce. The body is supposed to use nutrients to deal with toxins.
My thinking is that even though we could get sick from toxins the body should be able to deal with toxins. Since there may be trace amount of toxins in organic foods don't you think the body should be able handle it if you give it the right nutrition?
It seems Moreless believes that If you are still sick from organic produce if it doesn't score well with a refractometer. (I never used one but once again, point taken.) It seems Moreless is telling everyone that if you eat certain foods with no toxins in them then you wouldn't get sick. At least someone could get that impression. Of course we are exposed to other types of toxins such as toxins in the air we breathe and toxins on some of our clothes.
Where I differ from his thinking is that if you are supplying your body with adequate nutrition and you still don't heal the question becomes "Why?".
There are people who are reading who should consider this message.
This is where I believe energy comes into the picture. To start with your thoughts are a form of energy.- Re: --Organic Foods ?--Herbicide and... Celcius
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This is a reply to # 939,513It seems Moreless is telling everyone that if you eat certain foods with no toxins in them then you wouldn't get sick.
Totally wrong, exactly the opposite of what he is saying! And this is one reason I dont repost MLs ideas because taken out of context can be confusing!
What ML is saying is that foods, produce, organic or not, that are low quality organic or not, that dont have the high brix content can actually be acid forming! Thus cause health issues! And that foods ,produce, that have high brix or high mineral content can neutralize toxins!
I wish people who second guess others would research what they are talking about!
You make large claims and Im not challenging them (because all they are is claims at this point) but perhaps you should focus on those claims before you try to dismiss others!Especially those whose claims have been substantiated from scientific studies and honest testimony!
- Re: --Organic Foods ?--Herbicide and... traderdrew
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This is a reply to # 939,691I have never seen any scientific documentation in Moreless's posts. I have seen some on his web site. This brings me to another subject. There has been a lot of ideas and theories that have been posted on Curezone. Some of them make a lot of sense. Some of them make sense but I start to doubt them when I use critical thinking. I usually don't comment on them. Until I see some good documentation or I try them for myself, I think these ideas might fall apart under good studies. Over 95% of my posts are in the Debate Forums . I leave them open for debate.
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This is a reply to # 939,834Well we are what we read now arent we! But if you limit yourself to one part of any
subject you only make fool out of yourself! Have you ever asked yourself where do these ideas of pH balancing come from ? Have you ever researched it?
Im not going to give you a link or urls because if you tell someone something they don't know they dispise you, but if you challenge them to disprove what they denounce they have to invest thier own time and energy and may have a new respect for something they once thought was a shallow pond only to find the depth below!
You have a search engine and a seemingly inquisitive mind all you need now is the objectivity be open up to other possibilties!
There is a history to MLs theories that go back a century and a half! Although shelved and censored by the powers that be it is there!
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resisitance, spark of life,electrolyte, electric universe, ionization, non protein nitrogen,Naessen,Kinesiology to name just a few!
Einstien said if you claim you know everything you cease to learn and knowledge is not wisdom and wisdom is not the answers you give but the questions you ask!
- Re: PH Balancing traderdrew
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This is a reply to # 939,848Yes, I have done a little bit of research on PH balancing. I have my own ideas about it. I have listened to other people about it but not as much as you have. You directed me to some web sites but I still didn't understand what you found what was so great about it. You can give me links Celcius and I wouldn't despise you for it. Like I say, I put 95% of my posts on the Debate Forums as though I am saying, "Lets discuss this." Maybe we should discuss this in the debate forum.
First of all, I think PH balancing is like the tail wagging the dog. If you eat the right foods for you then theoretically, I would expect the body to have alkaline blood. Why test your body for it? I have read somewhere when your body it trying to rid itself of acids the urine will be more acidic. Some people incorrectly interpet acidic urine thinking that their body is acidic. Nutritional biochemist Jay Foster stated on his program someone tested the PH of his saliva. After that, imagine vividly biting into a lemon and then test your saliva again, it will become more acidic. He also stated he thinks it is better to identify your metabolic type than to use PH testing.
- Re: PH Balancing Celcius
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This is a reply to # 939,867You quote others that also misinterpret this Science ! It is not all about pH and pH stix this is just one tool to help guide you! I beleive you must follow your own path ,so be it,focus on that and dont belittle what you dont yet understand!
People constantly put down certin belief or protocol without given it a chance ! it took me months bfore I truly felt the benefits of this protocol!
Slow down and stop making judgement calls on others ,test your own theories first then make decisions!- Re: PH Balancing traderdrew
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This is a reply to # 939,874The protocol you write about is drinking the Moreless drink and using a refractometer to buy food correct??? I'm sure you also have an idea of what is a balanced diet is.
I would think if you combine a refactometer with eating foods based on your metabolic type, this would be a winner.
It would be interesting to compare the results of a refractometer with the forms of muscle testing I use. I have even been playing with my own form of testing to see how powerful a food or drink is for me.
- Re: PH Balancing traderdrew
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This is a reply to # 939,848My PH has been on the acid side ever since I started taking it. Recently I started taking 15 to 20 grams of a sorbic acid crytaline in water a day, now my PH is normal. Why is that? Why would extra acid make it normal? Thanks.
- Re: --Organic Foods ?--Herbicide and... traderdrew
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This is a reply to # 939,872The body is complex. I wouldn't think that adding acid would necessarily make it more acidic. Other than that I don't have a clue about the biochemical effects of ascorbic acid. Jay Foster recommends taking ascorbate rather than ascorbic acid. He also says taking higher amounts is fine especially if we are under stress. Stress depletes vitamin c reserves.
- Re: --Organic Foods ?--Herbicide and... Celcius
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This is a reply to # 939,992With the limited information you suplied and this being the wrong forum to dicuss this I will just say that it is known that ascorbic acid draws minerals from the body to neutralize it! And like traderdrew says never take an unbuffered form of vitamin c!
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