Itching worse after milk thistle, da... 
fiddler
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After my 5th LF, which produce a large amount of big stones (the biggest was 1" round there was a remarkable improovement in my eczima and itching on my legs and armes. My skin became almost perfectly normal.
But after about 2-3 weeks, the skin condition gradually started sliding back to the old itching state.
I have done 3 more Liver-Flush since then, which did not produce nearly as much stones as the 5th LF.
Taking advice from this forum, about 10 days ago I started using a combination of milk thistle, dandelion and parsley tea. The itching seems became worse.
Could it be becouse of the healing crises after taking above mentioned herbs, or my body reaction to these particular herbs?
Or it's just a continuation of the worsening condition of my skin regardless of taking these herbs?
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- Could be a few things Midlothiangirl
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This is a reply to # 92,197Have you been bowel cleansing and making a change in your diet until all the tissues in your body have become purified? If you didn't do a colonic or enema after your flush, then the toxins can become trapped in your bowel, causing more stress on your liver and an eventual worsening of symtpoms.
What may be happening with the herbs you are taking is they may contain allergens that are worsening your condition. In other words, you may be allergic to (one or all of) these herbs; after all, excema is more or less a condition of inflammation and allergies, though it manifests as a "skin" condition. Excema is ALWAYS a sign of an overburdened liver. ALWAYS.
What I would do if I were you is this:
1. Immediately do a bowel cleanse/enema program (see Bowel Cleanse Forum s here for more details)
2. Stop the milk thistle and perhaps get some liver enhancing products from www.sensiblehealth.com (Chinese Bitters and Coptis may be very helpful)
3. Make sure you juice and have tons of alkaline producing foods in your diet.
4. Consider taking Evening Primrose Oil, which is very good for excema.
I believe that there is a spray called "skin zinc" or something like that that is supposed to be very helpful as well, though I havn't used it personally.
I found for me that bowel cleansing coupled with Liver Flushing produced the best results. Also, doing a thorough detox of the whole body (including heavy metal detoxing....see Dr. Vinograd's forum for information on the BodyPure pads, link on the top of his page) is very helpful.
I have come to believe that cleansing the liver, bowel, and decontaminating oneself from all heavy metals is the way to go; leaving out just one of those areas tends to not give good or lasting results. Including plenty of raw, organic foods is always helpful as well.
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- Thanks a bunch Midlothiangirl! fiddler
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This is a reply to # 92,211Thank you Midlothiangirl!
Sorry i did not respond sooner, my computer got virus and problems with it.
I will follow up on all your advices.
I did clean my bowel after my 5th Liver-Flush only once when I got real big stones and the results were the best. But I do finish all my LFs with SWF. But I guess it is not enough.
Thank you again.
- Thanks a bunch Midlothiangirl! fiddler
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Re: Itching worse after milk thistle... wellnut
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This is a reply to # 92,197It sounds as if you are allergic to dandelion. The other two would not give that thype of reaction and there are no know interactions betweeen thoes three herbs.
Many people are allergic to dandelion. It is best to stop this route.
Try these and let me know if it helps!
Stones
Possibly Effective:
BLACK TEA
kidney stones (nephrolithiasis)
Women consuming black tea seem to have an 8% decreased risk of developing kidney stones.
DMSO (DIMETHYLSULFOXIDE)
Biliary stones
DMSO infused alternatively with methyl-tert-butyl ether and a buffer solution of EDTA and sodium deoxycholate through a nasobiliary catheter seems to dissolve bile duct stones.
IP-6
kidney stones (nephrolithiasis)
There is some evidence that people with high dietary intake of IP-6 have a decreased risk of developing kidney stones.
MAGNESIUM
kidney stones (nephrolithiasis)
Taking magnesium orally seems to prevent the recurrence of kidney stones. Prophylactic treatment with magnesium hydroxide might decrease the recurrence rate of calcium stone formation. Magnesium in combination with pyridoxine (vitamin B6) also seems to decrease urinary oxalate levels in people with hyperoxaluria who have previously had kidney stones. However, it's unclear if this effect on urinary oxalate levels translates into a reduced incidence of kidney stones. There is also evidence that treatment with other medications such as chlorthalidone (Hygroton) may be more effective than magnesium hydroxide in preventing kidney stone formation.
PHOSPHATE SALTS
Kidney stones (nephrolithiasis)
Taking potassium and sodium phosphate salts orally may help prevent kidney stones in patients with hypercalciuria.
PYRIDOXINE (VITAMIN B6)
Kidney stones (nephrolithiasis)
There is some evidence that taking pyridoxine orally, alone, or in combination with magnesium, can decrease urinary oxalate levels in people with type I primary hyperoxaluria, a hereditary disorder. However, it doesn't appear to help people with other kinds of kidney stones. There is preliminary evidence that higher pyridoxine intake in women is associated with decreased risk of kidney stone formation in women with no history of stone formation, but this association has not been found in men.
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http://www.wellnut.com/Access-Database.html.html- Re: Itching worse after milk thistle... wellnut
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This is a reply to # 92,319Also please read this:
Do not take dandelion if:
You are breast-feeding.
You have gallbladder problems.
You have an intestinal blockage.
You have diabetes.
You have an allergy to a plant in the Asteraceae/Compositae family. Members of this family include ragweed, chrysanthemums, marigolds, daisies, and many other plants.
Good Luck, I see youare fine now, but for the future.
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