I kinda feel having a negative mindset about who you are and your sign could be causing the troubles in your life. I dont really feel there are any bad signs. You just need to learn to work with who you are. Sorry if thats no help.. I hope you feel better.

How about your insights are good . A bit of your delima is in our culture being so uncivilized that some of your experiences are colored w such conflict.

Remember we are learning to know ourselves as free emotionally, and feeling wise radiant. So what you are going thru is partly necessary for your awareness to expand.

Your equating your conventional concepts of failure to your experiences will end not when you conventionally succeed but when you understand that all your suffering is so you will understand whats important.

Now consider that all signage is manifesting qualities that are more or less imature, intermediate or advanced. As Trys said no good or bad sign. Hard sinage would imply a big dividend.

We all know our weakness' and strengths. We are learning how they can be controlled so as to have a good foundation for rediscovering happiness. The question is how fast or slow will that take.

If you havent already you might enjoy Aysherahs (sp) note on Ask Cure Zone on his recent 10 day meditation voyage, where he took the bull by the horns and learned there was no bull.

Ok, so you know what personality traits you got. Thats what horoscopes are about, partly.

Judging what you write, it might be more usefull right now to stop focussing on blaming this horoscope of yours, because it aint gonna change.

Other forums might be of more use. Try to take care of the problems you are having without pointing in the direction of your horoscope.

the trap of horoscopes is that it can be a downer in which case you blame it for all your problems, but there are also cases where people get high praise from an astrologer for having such an 'excellent' horoscope and for being a yogi in past lifetimes (vedic astrology) yada yada yada basically giving them too big a head

Do you think you would be helped if you would hear an astrologer say your horoscope aint so bad after all? No, probably you wont.

What do you want, confirmation?

see, horoscopes have their use, but only up to a certain point. The rest you gotta do on your own

I'm a female Scorpio, I don't know what my moons are in. I too am always falling in the ashes, but find the rising up part positive. I have risen from some deep ashes. I can read all day, but have not had any great jobs, and relationships are difficult to say the least. You have to play the cards you are dealt, focus on the positive about yourself. Find joy where you can, don't dwell on the depressing. Love your sign and yourself, what you think, you become.

I'm a scorpio, and suffer from a negative outlook on life too. This seems to have been getting worse recently, as I get older.

I used to think I was blessed, and lucky, when I was younger... now I'm beginning to wonder if I really am!

When I think about it, I've never really had any success in work, or in love. I've always done what I wanted to do, but now, I'm finding that that has lead me to a position whereby I'm still not finanially secure.

I'm very emotional too - which I used to love about myself. I lived in drama - joy, excitement, energy... now, I'm tending to towards feeling that the emotions are making me ill especially repressed anger, hopelessness, brooding, etc.

I say on being scorpio: 'it's difficult being me'.

Others don't understand the depth of feeling that we experience, and feel. The physicallity of the emotions. And when they are negative - boy they really are negative!!!

But, of course, when we are feeling good - there is nothing like it! So I think the aim is to try and focus on the positive, find happiness and fulfillment - cause there is nothing worse than a bored scorpio!!!

My birth moon is full in scorpio, and also my ascendent is leo. yeow

David Viscotts book The Language of Feelings really described what I was experiencing. When he wrote about those people who not only see the color, but hear it and feel it also. All the senses likewise expanded and alive
encorporating an emotional content also, feeling and knowing to a skin tingling degree. His work was important for me and his insight into the whole dynamic helped me understand and assited to properly catagorise these experiences.

Of course finding success or failure in any sense in the world is not particular to any one, or anyone's placement in the astological configuartion. And trying to pawn off our lack of fullfilled desires due to past actions (astro chart) is also soley a defensive tactic to avoid dealing more closely with how we are choosing now.

I never found any reality in concepts like, riseing up out of the ashes. Seemed more important to just move on. Emotional health can be affected positivly by using platitudes but we dont want to rely on the ineffective type of hopeing which Raynebo mentioned. When we finally have had enough of playing games with our honesty we can start dealing with our frustations for what they are, fertilizer for the soul.

hm its so interesting how what it is we teach, is often whatit is we are seeking, and what it is we preach is often what it is we refuse to practice. thought Id add that to 52864 and Raynebo's honest shareing.

Ah the joys of being a Scorpio, I am also Sag rising!
I do sympathise! I know what you mean! I have had to rise from the ashes many times, and always fearing I end up back where I started from. I am far too emotional also, and over-analyse things to death...if only I did not!

However Scorpions are genuine souls, and incredibly loyal also. If someone tells us a secret,we don't blab! and we are trustworthy, nothing shallow about being a Scorpio...there is no act! Plus we are incredibly kind and will always help a stranger!

Some good things there, but so many things that just feel too intense for words!

A horoscope is one thing, and free will is another....

Trying desperatley to rise from the ashes yet again!

Another Scorpio.
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"I'm a 47 yr. old male scorpio and have struggled all my life with being one..I find myself so deep thinking, emotional, and just plain depressed most of the time..pure water..I have sag rising and my moon is in gemini which makes for a very unfocused and restless mindset..I can barely focus on any endeavors, including careers that never last and have been in 4-5 relationships my whole life, all of them leaving me..Reading is very difficult after 20 min..I've had a local astrologer do my chart and she said I have a "very difficult" chart..Liz Greene, a very well known astrologist, did a psychological astrology report which was very direct, revealing, and true of myself, yet downright depressing..I've never had money or a good relationship in my life and it shows why in my chart..Scorpios have the ability to "rise up" from the ashes because there always falling into them..A terrible sign, chart, and one I wish I could change..But I'm stuck with it..Any other scorpios feeling what I'm saying?"

Horoscopes tend to bind most people's consciousness because they believe in an "out there." When you understand that one is a joined reflection of the other, in other words the macrocosm equals the microcosm, then you will understand fully that you are free to create as you wish. Fear holds us into a template and then they get labeled in constructs such as astrology patterns.

What I am saying here is if you go beyond your pattern, the cosmos will change along with it. it is called quantum entanglement and it is an important but often missed aspects of our current reality.

Just like genetics is a snap shot and shows "future" tendencies and probabilities based on this snapshot, so are psychological patterns seen in astrological templates. They are but informational metaphors showing us what our thoughts and creations are holding space as. As above so below and vice versa.

The key thing to get from this is there our solid reality is created out of thought. If we buy into grids they entrap us into a particular reality. Create freely and watch the templates transform along with you.