Hmmm, didn't see this post all those days ago.

There comes a point when it's beyond the capabilities of the physical to respond to the cleansing and health regimes. And I personally know what's holding him back and at this stage he'll never break through that. Too many drugs for too many years.

It's not that I haven't tried with the Vietnam guys. I spent quite a few years trying to help them. Even on a national level.

Combat does some very specific things to you that you aren't even aware are happening. Death, dying, blood, screams, and the sheer volume of the noise of a firefight on a daily basis plays havock with your mind when the firefights are over.

That you're alive is the ONLY concern. You will not change anything in your environment voluntarily. As long as you're alive - that's good enough.

And, my friend, that is one tough thing to overcome. I still fight it to this day and I've never taken ANY drugs. I'm alive, I'm safe - that's good enough. What are the rest of you folks complaining about, don't you know how lucky you are just to be here???

So it's damn near impossible to get through to them. I only know a handfull that have listened and got their life back.

Now, is it safe to get people off drugs after 30-40-50 years of continuous drug use? Good question.

The body packs those poisons away. When doing so they go in rather diluted but the continued use eventually concentrates the drugs within the cells and intersticial spaces. That's what tumors and nodules are. The body will encapsulte the poisons and literally wall them off from the rest of the body. So to reverse that and start detoxing can be a rather big problem. The poisons are much stronger now, much more concentrated. It's a problem.

If you've noticed in life, if people don't get their alcohol use and drug abuse handled by the time they're 35 or so it's pretty much a done deal. They're hooked for life. We're not talking the casual social drinker here - you know what I mean. The body gets used to the poisons and you don't feel normal unless you have some of that poison floating around in you. So it's a pretty big request to ask someone to stop feeling normal, to stop taking those things that make them feel normal. Plus, the mental attitude develops that "I need something".

And with the combat guys there's the added "being safe" thing to deal with. Can't change anything yourself. You're alive and that's good enough.

Then there's the concentrated poisons being released that make you feel quite a bit worse for quite a while.

There's very few people that have been successful doing this program that are over 60 years old. It's tough to do in your 30's and 40's. I had the physical square away by the time I was 51. It took 5 years for me to do and I had never taken any drugs.

So to ask and expect someone in their 60's to do this with the past 40 years of drug use is a very lofty request and physically questionable that it can be done at all.

My brother died a year and a half ago. He was younger than I. Yeah, we were both born and raised Chiropratic but he got started on the prescriiption drug abuse when we were in Basic Training (Oct. 69). Like me, he had never had any drugs in his entire life.

My brother suffered from niceguyism. He just didn't have the ability to say "no". One of the nicest people I've even known in my whole life. Surely a much better brother (and friend) to me than I was to him. But without Dad being around to take care of his physical problems he got into the prescriiption drugs and after a few years mentally "needed" them.

In 2003 I got a call from him telling me he had Prostate cancer. I tried everything I know to get him off the drugs and cleaned up but to no avail. He couldn't do it. He died May 26th 2007, 57 years old. The drugs killed him. He stated on them at 19 years of age. Of course that spiraled down to one problem after another and eventually the drugs killed him.

That the Vietnam guy is still alive over 60 years of age is a small miricle in and of itself when they've gone the VA route. Drugs, drugs and more drugs. To clean him out and rebuild the organs and tissues would take at least 5-7 years of a very tough road to travel.

The biggest problem is the mental "being safe" thing. And if he hasn't gotten past that yet at his age he never will this lifetime. Throw on top of that the mental "need" to take something, anything just to be "normal". Then the concentrated poisons that are going to release from his systems and you have a volitile mix that just might prove fatal.

Is it doable??? I never had the drugs so I did it, but I was in my 40's. I only know three Vietnam vets that did do the prescriiption drugs that got off them and made it. But they were in their late 40's early 50's. And my brother died at 57.

But the biggest thing is he CAN'T change. As long as he's alive he'll stay on the same course. Very few of the combat guys even know this data much less can do anything about it. They honestly don't know why they were sick in the first place. And now with all the drugs it's too late.

I've just seen it too many times. Thus my advise as it was. It's the mental attribute from being in cambat and the mental attributes that surviving it gives to you that's the problem. Again, I fight it every day and I never had the drugs.

Being "safe" is hard to let go of even when the very thing that will allow your survival on this pysical plane is presented to you. No firefight going on - no changes necessary.

That's the best I can explain it and I certainly wouldn't want you or anyone else to go through war just so you understand what I'm talking about. That you don't know is a good thing.

Doc Sutter