ID is based on the false dichotomy that by discrediting evolution, ID is confirmed. “ID proponents primarily argue for design through negative arguments against evolution,” Even a scientifically illiterate person who is capable of spotting logical errors can point out the flaws of this argument.
IDs star witness Behe admitted that for ID to be considered as science, the definition would have to be stretched so much it would also include other pseudosciences like astrology, alchemy, phrenology, palmistry, and more.
“After a searching review of the record and applicable caselaw, we find that
while ID arguments may be true, a proposition on which the Court takes no
position, ID is not science. We find that ID fails on three different levels, any one of which is sufficient to preclude a determination that ID is science. They are:
(1)ID violates the centuries-old ground rules of science by invoking and permitting supernatural causation;
(2) the argument of irreducible complexity, central to ID, employs the same flawed and illogical contrived dualism that doomed creation science in the 1980's; and
(3) ID’s negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community”.
IDs star witness Behe admitted that for ID to be considered as science, the definition would have to be stretched so much it would also include other pseudosciences like astrology, alchemy, phrenology, palmistry, and more.
Hi Corinthian,
Why do you have that figure on your profile? I had the impression you are a guy. Anyway, I can understand this because we don't scientifically know the intentions of an intelligent designer. However, we don't have to guess what his intentions are. I think all we have to do is look for the results and sort of reverse engineer them.
(3) ID’s negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community”.
Why does inquiry have do be desribed as negative? I would expect evolutionists to attempt to refute them. This to me is the same reason why we have debate forums here on curezone although the debate threads don't ususally work that way.
Why does inquiry have do be desribed as negative? I would expect evolutionists to attempt to refute them. This to me is the same reason why we have debate forums here on curezone although the debate threads don't ususally work that way.
You are under the misconception that ID proponents do real research, that is wrong. There is no inquiry. It is a political movement with no pretension of scientific research. The attacks are characterized as negative because that's what they are on top of being outright lies more often than not. They don't seek to do any research into the subject, nor can they do any since the subject is God. All they have is a negative campaign. As the post reads they rely on fooling people into believing that because not all the answers are available (same as in all sciences and bodies of knowledge) that their idea of ID is true.
You are under the misconception that ID proponents do real research, that is wrong. There is no inquiry. It is a political movement with no pretension of scientific research.
I believe (partly a feeling) you are both right and wrong about this. There are some people who seem to be very inteliigent who are proponents of ID. I will give it some thought.
(3) ID’s negative attacks on evolution have been refuted by the scientific community”.
I dunno... I'm still waiting for evidence from you that shows how new orders evolved from pre-existing orders.