Child is SICK, please help! 
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Since last Friday, my 6 y.o. son has had fever of up to 103.8 at nights and up to 102 during the days (flactuating). Fever was accompanied by coughing and some sore throat.
He also complained of a stomack ache on the first day (on the right side).
He was constipated, and I gave him an enema, and he had a BM (greenish brown dark).
Stomack pain was gone after that. A day ago, he had one Diarhhea movement and had temporary nausea.
He had a revenous appetite yesterday and today (wanting eggs, protein, etc).
This morning, fever was gone for a while and then returned to 100 degrees.
I took him to a doctor, doctor checked him out, said that could be viral. She wasn't sure, but took strep culture.
Tonight around 6pm, his fever came back again, it's about 103 now. He's been complaining of a stomach pain again (lower part). He hasn't had a BM all day since diarhhea last night, so he is probably constipated. He has also been complaining of light sensitivity (only in the evenings when fever is high).
He sleeps ok through the night, occasionally waking up thirsty, or coughing and complaining of sore throat when coughing.
To rewind back two weeks.... I took him to a chiropractor and he suspected worms (maybe pinworms). So he suggested for me to give my son zymex (digestive with bromelain, etc) to digest worms in the intestinal tract. I've been giving this to my son for a week prior to him getting sick. Plus some vitamins.
My son does look like he has worms, because he grinds his teeth at night, he is fidgetty, dark circles under eyes, etc. I temporarily stopped giving him the digestive thing once he got sick with this illness...
The same chiropractor suggested to give my son CONGAPLEX for his sickness (Congaplex is for people who have congestion due to an infection -- a cold or a flu or any other kind of infection. It is Made From Bovine Thymus Cytosol Extract, Calcium Lactate, Magnesium Citrate, And Ribonucleic Acid.)
Anyway, I've been giving this to my son, I don't know if it's doing anything yet.
My questions...
any suggestions on what my son may have and what's causing this?
What natural remedies would you suggest to try?
What else my be causing this illness (parasites, intestinal infection, etc??)
I am worried because he usually gets over his sicknesses within 2-3 days (fever part)... This one has been 5 days already.
I have these things at home...
Colloidal Silver , olive leaf extract (capsules), oregano oil, zapper, nucleotides, vitamin C liquid, Boiron's beladonna, eldelberry tea, p'au d'arco tea, Food grade peroxide 3%, Sambucol, probiotics, tea tree oil, eucolyptis oil, etc...
thanks for your help.
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- Child is SICK Ayehasherayeh
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This is a reply to # 866,548Hi most likely indicated from what you have provided is that your son is sufferring from congestion/constipation where the digestive enzyme formulation has dislodged unwanted material. Be it worms or not his outflow is not working fast enough to eliminate the material. You had it right with the enema. I do not make a habit of it but my sons have received enemas before make sure they are properly administered clear water enemas my six year old took 1 quart and retained for 7-8 minutes. Do not use the prepared enemas like fleet if you go through this trouble.
Do not feed the child eggs, junk or comfort food or anything else that is not fruit, vegetable or perhaps a nice rice with extra rice water for digestion. He can subsist on a simple diet for 3-5 days which is what it should take to get digestion and elimination going. When these processes are going again make sure you have stepped up the quality of his diet and that he is demonstrating proper bowel habits. You may be surprised to realize that your 6 year old who may be independently using the toilet is having incomplete or no bowel movements for days causing congestion.
If a person is sufferring from congestion in any part of the body he is sufferring from it elsewhere also here being made manifest in the bowel system. Continue giving the digestive supplement as it will be beneficial and use a simple clean diet for a minimum of 3-8 days and consider improving the diet for better digestion and elimination in the future. An enema will usually do the job unless you clog the systme back up again with the likes of eggs or other problem foods.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 866,669Thank you for your post Aye.
I don't have a regular enema at home. So, you think I shouldn't use Fleet?
My son hated his enema experience, do you think it's imperative that I use it again, or can I just change his diet (give juices, fruits, etc)?
Also, do you think I should continue giving him Zymex II?
Chiropractor also put him on Min-Tran (mineral supplement ) about two weeks ago, I also stopped it when my son got sick. That has calcium, iodine, magnesium, sodium in it, kelp, etc...
Should I continue this one too?
thank you for your help :-)
- Re: Child is SICK Ayehasherayeh
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This is a reply to # 866,752An enema bag is a few dollars from Walgreens or other pharmacy stores they may pretend to not know what it is. It is usually disguised as hot water/douche bottle.
Before I gave my 6 year old his first enema we talked about his fever and congestion/constipation and how it contributed to making him feel sick. I then suggested it would be so great to feel better again after he agrreed. I told him a way I know of to feel better again, something that is easy and will have one feeling better almost immediately with no medicines. Then I let him ask me what the solution was and I explained how the clear water would clean out the insides and flush all the congestion out. I told him he would see the equivalent of several bowel movements coming out and that he would realize the importance of eating clean food and fully eliminating as much as possible.
Ever since the age of 3 or so my kids recognize a fever coming on and will ask for grapefruit seed extract, when they feel congestion in the sinuses they ask for a neti pot to clean them, and when they feel constipated they know to avoid cheese, and other dairy, eggs, and wheat/gluten, if need be they receive an enema with plain water or a bit of fresh lemon juice.
The zymex is beneficial and most likely the enzymatic content which stirred up debris that was not eliminated rapidly enough. The mineral supplementation is fine also for the time being try to introduce your son to natural Iodine rich foods and natural magnesium rich foods.
Aye
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- Echinacea!...Re: Child is SICK, plea... unyquity
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This is a reply to # 866,462...a time-honored/tested herb that strengthens and bolsters our immune system to fight WHATEVER our body knows needs to be fought. One doesn't have to know what the invacer is or what is wrong...echinacea give the body's immune system a super charge!
(Also note, in the links below, Southern Botanicals & Dr. Schulze sells a child version...but it's not necessarily. All you need to do is get a high-quality echinacea tincture, adjust the dose to 'child size' and mix it with a bit of maple syrup or honey.)
If you give/take echinacea at the onset of virtually ANY fever or illness, and take it every four-six hours, you'll probably NEVER have any type of infectious illness again.
A good quality Echinacea tincture is a "must have" in EVERY medicine stash. We've been married now almost 11 years, and between us we've only had 3 colds and one bout of the flu...and ALL were because we didn't take our Vitamin C/Echinace soon enough (we thought we could wait until the next morning).
Here's some links where you can buy the 'good stuff' and read lots more about it :)
(It is VERY important to get high-quality, organic tinctures; good echincea will numb your tongue slightly. If it doesn't do that, it's basicaly a waste of money).
http://www.herb-pharm.com/
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Southern Botanicals//Health Freedom Resources
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And here's some links about Echinacea:
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http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/e/echina01.html
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http://www.kcweb.com/herb/echin.htm
Herbal Information Center-Echinacea - Herbs
http://healthyherbalist.com/nl_echinacea.html
NL ECHINACEA -
http://www.HealthyHerbalist.com
http://www.alive.com/1976a5a2.php?subject_bread_cramb=531
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- Re: Child is SICK, please help! kathryn101
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This is a reply to # 866,462Hi 40679...I'm 60 years old...have studied natural healing for decades and have
3 grown 'children'. :-) And I wouldn't have considered then...or even now, giving
a 6 year old most herbs or supplements.
We 'do' treat most things naturally...but you can do soooooooooooooo much with foods and juices. People have no idea!
You said he got sick last Friday...so it's only been 5 days...and it's not unusual
at all for a virus or 'bug' to last a week or two. Even when you can't put your
finger on it. However, I do know how worrisome it is to have a sick child and not
know exactly what's going on.
Your son does sound like he could have parasites. And did you know that just before your body 'expels' a batch of parasites...most people get an 'odd' tummy
ache or nausea...that goes away the minute the parasites are passed? However, that
wouldn't account for the fever...and the fever is quite high.
Do you have a juicer? If you do...make him a juice twice a day, of 4 or 5 carrots,
and a handful of spinach. And have him drink plenty of water to flush his system.
Try to back off on his Sugar intake and try to make his diet as healthy as you can.
See if you can get him to eat a few prunes and figs during the day...just one or two of each...2 or 3 times a day. That should help with his constipation and with
the parasites.
I checked your old posts and you had posted last summer that he was having nausea
and vomiting...brown spots on his skin...and even gray spots in his eyes. Are the
brown spots still there...and how about the gray spots in his eyes?
Hope he's feeling better today...I've spend many a night when our kids were little...just sitting beside the bed because they weren't feeling well and I didn't
know what was wrong with them. But I'm a firm believer in prayer...so I'd just
pray about it. Keep us posted. kathryn- Re: Child is SICK, please help! #40679
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This is a reply to # 866,621Thank you Kathryn for your suggestions.
They are reassuring.
Yes, I have a juicer, I'll go ahead and make some of the juice for him today..
And I'll go get some prunes too. What about prune juice?
He still hasn't have a BM for a couple of days, so I hope it will happen soon.
His fever has been so relentless.. I usually welcome fevers, but there has been almost no break in this. Like a clockwork.. Night about 103, daytime - around 101. This morning it's 100.
Regarding brown spots, yes he still has them. I got bunch too, they've been appearing constantly over the few years. I read somewhere long time ago, that this could be accumulation of copper in the body. Maybe that's what it is. We also both sneeze when we come outside in the sun. I read that too was a symptom of some copper imbalance probably. I need to get comprehensive tests done.
And there are little greyish spots on his eyes still. I wonder if it means anything.
Just a little history, my son since he was born was having some health issues. He had fevers as a baby, throwing up, diarrhea, etc. When he was about 3, he ran 105 degree fevers every night for 6 straight nights(doctors didn't know what it was, and it was scary).
I didn't know much about natural medicines till he turned about 3.5 or 4, so prior to that he had his share of Antibiotics for all kinds of things.
Also, by age 4, he often had a pooched stomach, bad gas. I finally discovered the world of natural medicine/health and started giving him probiotics and parasite cleanses (kids paragone).That took care of his bad gas for that time and his stomach wasn't pooched anymore. I did it twice (last one was about a year ago). And his health has been pretty good for a while. I've been trying to give him probiotics occasionally and feed him healthy. But lately, he's been getting sick every month with one thing or the other. Like last month, it was a vomitting/diarhea situation for several days.
He got better with probiotics and plain diet.
I mentioned in my other post, that Chiropractor put my son on Min-tran (sodium, calsium, magnesium, iodine, kelp) supplement to rest his mind, and in one week, I noticed that my son's strange little habbits (torrette like, ocd, etc) began to calm down. He was becoming more calm and focused. With this illness, I stopped giving him those just in case, and I can see little habbits creeping in again.
Sorry for the long post.. thank you for all your suggestions, I'll try juicing and prunes for sure. :-)
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This is a reply to # 866,462If you look up Zymex (www.becomehealthynow.com/supps/zymex_cap.shtml), you find:
"Zymex Capsules Contain Defatted Wheat Germ, Beet Root, And Specially-Processed Tillandsia Usneoides." Wheat germ, and beet root seem harmless, but the third...?
Tillandsia Usneoides
If you look up Tillandsia Usneoides, you will find out it is spanish moss. Spanish moss has a unique capability to attract calcium, [and other undefined nutrients], and water directly out of its environment -- the air.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_moss
Studies on monkies have shown that their body temperature is directly related to their sodium/calcium ratio.
I suspect that the Zymex has locked up some of the calcium that his body would normally use for other things (calcium is involved in digestion of carbohydrates, and apparently temperature regulation), and that he is severely dehydrated. Get him outside every day to get plenty of Vitamin D (which brings up calcium, as well as other minerals), and give him plenty of water and foods that contain calcium. If it was me, I would avoid any carbohydrates for a few days, but that is just a guess on my part.
The Nutrient Tool on the Tools menu at
http://www.nutritiondata.com
is a good tool to find out what foods are high in specific nutrients.
See if you can research the "other nutrients" that spanish moss draws out of the air and make sure they get replenished.
Since you've already stopped giving it to him, it will hopefully work its way out of his system over time.
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This is a reply to # 866,719Thank you for your reply.
Actually, it's Zymex II (i think it's different from Zymex). Sorry, I should have been clearer.
Here is some info on it
(Zymex II is the proteolytic enzyme product made from almond bran and fig juice, used to eradicate intestinal parasites. If you mix Zymex II with fresh frozen pancreas extracts (sometimes referred to as pancreatin) you have Multizyme.)
Zymex II should be taken on an empty stomach, so the proteolytic enzymes wilt digests the parasites instead of food.)
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This is a reply to # 866,885I saw that in your more recent posts.
Best wishes to you and the little guy. I hope he is feeling better soon.
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- Re: Child is SICK, please help! humaworm
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This is a reply to # 866,462Hello - I am sorry that your little boy is not feeling up to snuff! It does, in my opinion, sound like he has parasites. Pinworms will cause nausea and restlessness at night. As for the light sensitivity - toxoplasmosis will cause this. It can be present in a child from birth and the symptoms may not show themselves for a while. I am not saying he has toxoplasmosis - but it might be something worth researching.
The strange colored stool indicates toxins being removed from the body - these toxins can make a person very ill when they are coming out of the body. Vomiting and diarrhea are two of the fastest ways for the body to remove harmful things. Fever is another natural defense - many bacteria and viruses can't live above a certain temperature - so between all of these signs - something is definately going on with him.
I know you probably know all of this - but when doctors can't figure out why a person is ill - they like to use the old "viral infection" diagnosis. In my opinion, if your son's gas problems got better after his parasite cleanse - then his problems are most likely parasite related. parasite cleansing needs to be done 2-3 times per year - every year.
I do hope that you find the root cause to his illness - hang in there!- Re: Child is SICK, please help! #40679
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This is a reply to # 866,846Thank you Huma.
Toxioplasmosis... I hope it's not the case, but you never know.
Right now, it's light outside, my son's fever is pretty low and light is not bothering him, but at night when fever goes up, he suddenly can't stand light (even very low one)... I hope it's just fever related.
And he just had a bowel movement, thank God. At least things are moving out finally.
In your opinion, should I continue giving him Zymex II?
(Zymex II is the proteolytic enzyme product made from almond bran and fig juice, used to eradicate intestinal parasites. If you mix Zymex II with fresh frozen pancreas extracts (sometimes referred to as pancreatin) you have Multizyme.)
Zymex II should be taken on an empty stomach, so the proteolytic enzymes wilt digests the parasites instead of food.)
I am planning to get parasite cleanse for our whole family from you soon. Hopefully that would take care of some of the issues.
- Re: Child is SICK, please help! humaworm
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This is a reply to # 866,880If you think he still needs it - then go ahead and give it to him. His bowels definately need to keep working while he is sick - I truly hope he feels better soon!
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