Jesus never called himself god. In fact, he admonished a man for even calling him "good."
Matthew 19:16-17: And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Like Jesus, a son of god, we are all children of god, and he even quoted the scripture that says we are all gods.
John 10: 32-39
Jesus answered them, Many good works have I showed you from my Father;
for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a
good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being
a man, makest thyself God. Jesus
answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture
cannot be broken; Say ye of him,
whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest;
because I said, I am the Son of God? If
I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may
know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their
hand...
The Pharisees of his day are like the Pharisees of today, if they don't like
what you say they accuse you of blasphemy. Jesus was referring to:
Psalm 82:6
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the
most High.
"fear the Lord your God. he is the only one who can throw you into Hell, yes you better fear him, he came as a lamb, he will return as a lion. a judge, and seperate the wheat from the chaff."
Although the phrase "fear the LORD God" is common in the King James version of the bible, why should we fear or dread the very arms that we are, with every breath, lovingly drawn into? Certainly there are some people who can only be motivated by dreadful fear, but for the rest of us, there is a far more beautiful and inspiring interpretation of the these words.
Admittedly, millions have learned to have a fearful attitude, perhaps by using flawed translations or by listening to those who have blindly preached such fearful attitudes. This unfortunate concept of fear and dread seems have often been a result of the language used by the scripture translators, not from the original words of the prophets.
The word most often translated in the Old Testament as fear is the Hebrew word (transliterated as yirah) which can possibly mean fear, but also means awe, reverence, respect and devotion. A closely related Hebrew word is (transliterated as yare) which can mean fearful, but also means to stand in awe, reverence or honor.
Similarly, the King James translators also chose to translate the Hebrew (transliterated as mowra) as fear, although it also means reverence, object of reverence, or an awe inspiring spectacle or deed. Another word that the King James translators chose to call fear is the Hebrew (transliterated as guwr) which can mean fear, but which also means to stir up, sojourn, dwell with, remain, dwell in or to stand in awe.
Fortunately, some of the newer bible translations are slowly beginning to correct this situation and are beginning to use fitting terms such as honor and reverence to express our relationship with God. What a magnificent difference it is to change from an attitude of fear of a dreadful, vengeful God into the beautiful, loving attitude of awe, reverence, respect and devotion towards a kind, loving God.
Compare, for example, the old King James version of Nehemiah 1:11 which reads ( with my added bold letter highlighting):
O LORD, I beseech thee, let now thine ear be attentive to the prayer of thy servant, and to the prayer of thy servants, who desire to fear thy name: and prosper I pray thee, thy servant this day, and grant him mercy in the sight of this man. For I was the king's cupbearer.
with New Living translation which reads:
O Lord, please hear my prayer! Listen to the prayers of those of us who delight in honoring you. Please grant me success now as I go to ask the king for a great favor. Put it into his heart to be kind to me." In those days I was the king's cup-bearer.
or the New American Standard which reads:
"O Lord, I beseech You, may Your ear be attentive to the prayer of Your servant and the prayer of Your servants who delight to revere Your name, and make Your servant successful today and grant him compassion before this man.'' Now I was the cupbearer to the king.
or the New International Version which reads:
O Lord, let your ear be attentive to the prayer of this your servant and to the prayer of your servants who delight in revering your name. Give your servant success today by granting him favor in the presence of this man." I was cupbearer to the king.
Oh what a delightful difference!!
Interestingly, the same sort of metaphors are also used in the Qur'an. For example, consider sura al-Tawba where the Arabic word (transliterated as yakhsha) is typically translated as "be fearful". However, just as in the case of the Hebrew words considered above, this word stems from a root (kh-sh-y) which means to have fear, dread, awe, veneration, respect, honor or reverence. This same root appears about 50 times in verses of the Qur'an (e.g. 9:18, 20:3, 35:18, 87:10) and the reader must choose whether it is appropriate to recognize a Creator who deserves fear and dread, or One who deserves our loving awe, respect and reverence... or perhaps both at the same time.
Certainly there are passages in the scriptures where dread and fear are the appropriate connotation, but in many other cases, it is clear that feelings such as awe, respect and reverence are the greater significance. So, as you read the lines of your favorite scripture about "fearing God", try substituting these beautiful feelings of awe, respect and reverence for God and observe the results for yourself.
Perhaps with such new thoughts the old ideas of a distant, threatening God will turn into an ever-present beloved friend and companion... only then will these lines from Matthew chapter 22:36-37 fully make sense:
I totally agree with your post. Yet that scripture is quoted a zillion times over with the complete phrase. The second commandment is "like unto it" - in other words, exactly the same. And that one is similar to the Golden Rule - which Jesus said is the entire bible. This verse says to love your neighbor. And it says that loving your neighbor is the same as loving God. It is impossible to love God, without loving your neighbor. And it is impossible to love your neighbor without loving yourself - first. Jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself. It isn't narcissistic, it is reality. And Jesus said it was equal to the entire bible.
Why in the world do thumpers rant and rave to have the "ten" commandments put in public places when in fact the Golden Rule would cover all the bases? Well, it's because the Pharisees have taken over in some segments of society and they want rules (that they make up) for everything - instead of keeping it simple like Jesus said.
Matthew 22:37-39 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
I have no reason to fear god because god is not a damning, spiteful, entity. That's the one that I know and that's how I introduce god to others. There is absolutely no reason to "fear" god, regardless of what you do or what direction you take.
You can quote all the scriptures you want about "fear" but you have to recognize that the translation of "fear" is a mistranslation of revere, or honor. There are bibles finally being correctly translated that don't use the word fear. Besides, it is much easier than that. Chat with god and find out for yourself. If the kingdom of god is within you as Jesus taught, then where do you think god resides?
If you have a fear of god (even without the guidance of god), you may be following some other entity.
"Jesus is God in human flesh."
So, you are calling him a liar? Here again is exactly what he said:
Matthew 19:16-17: And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
If he (Jesus) isn't good, and only God ("but one" - not a trinity) is good, then it is impossible for him to be god.
"Jesus said I and the father are one. if you have seen me you have seen the father."
That is consistent with his teaching that - "...the kingdom of god is within you." Everyone has the father within them. That's what Jesus taught. That was his primary message. The kingdom of god is within everyone, if they would only seek it there. You also have spirit within you, but that doesn't make you a "holy trinity" - which is nowhere in the bible.
So explain why Jesus would say that he wasn't good, that only god is good. The logic is obvious. He isn't god!
"who created the world?? who was the word, and the word became flesh and dwelt among us. without him nothing was created."
You continue to spew your beliefs without one scriptural passage to back it up and you intermingle a stew of unrelated concepts. You still haven't addressed the passage that was quoted where Jesus said he was not god. Does it make you cringe to read it?
Who created the world? Genesis 1:1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
The word for God in that passage is Elohim. The KJV authors couldn't bring themselves to put that in the Christian bible. The Elohim are The seven entities who created the planet and males and females in their image. Jesus did not create the world.
The "word" as written in John is "logos" and its definition is wisdom or knowledge. John 1:1 (Wuest - a literal translation) In the beginning the word was existing and the Word was in fellowship with God the Father. And the Word was as to His essence absolute deity. This Word was in the beginning in fellowship with God the Father. All things through His intermediate agency came into being, and without Him there came into being not even one thing which has come into existence. In Him life was existing. And this aforementioned life was the light of men.
The logos is in all mankind. That's what this passage says. You have that light within you and so does everyone else. (Another clear teaching of Jesus.) So, when you were born the word (logos, wisdom) became flesh. You are not unique.
Again, the Elohim created the planet and everything in it. That's what the early Hebrews believed but it was too much for the KJV translators to believe so they changed it to their own liking.
You still haven't addressed the fact that Jesus clearly said that he is not god. When are you going to do that?
"God became flesh and dwelth among us. He jesus created all things. He came to earth in the flesh. God in the flesh. before he was Jesus (God in the flesh) he was God the spirt. simple."
Not one shred of scripture, particularly his words, to even
begin to back that up. What you can't handle, you don't face, do
you? You have difficulty with him saying he wasn't god? Then, don't
read it.