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It’s been obvious to me for a few days that some professional very organized bashers with misleading info are fully employed. Nothing new for Curezone, there have ALWAYS (only been here since January) been commercial interests posting but this takes it to a new level.
Any guesses who is funding that?
- The enemy is us grzbear
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This is a reply to # 856,448I would appreciate seeing examples of posts that are leading yourself and others to this conclusion... could you provide links to them?
I am at a total loss as to where these thoughts are coming from.
At this point, from my perspective, I believe the issue may be more the interpreter than the writer, or perhaps, a follow the leader mentality, as apposed to independent free thinkers, however I will remain open minded and wait for you to provide evidence of your position.
Perhaps for those feeling as you, reading Sun Tzu on the Art of War, specifically chapter 6 will offer some insight. Turning those united in a cause against one another is a great way to win before the battle even begins.
If as you say, this is occurring, why enable the organized "bashers" and posters of "misinformation" along with their "intentions" success?
By doing this, the battle is won by the opponent without lifting a sword.
Disagreement can exist without division. There does not have to be a "winner" and "loser". I wish people would come to understand that the best solution to lifes problems are those that offer win, wins; live, lives.
These thoughts of "winners" and "losers" along with our "kill" mentality, both in medicine and life, are primary reasons why we are doomed to lose. Live life and be life...- Who flips the bill? Newport
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This is a reply to # 856,473Well if you can't see the obvious…
I am not going to fight a paid basher with multiple IDs and plenty of time on their hands, learned that a long time ago on the financial forums.
From now on we will need to live with obviouscation and that is a fact of live, I am just wondering who flips the bill…
- The enemy is still us... grzbear
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This is a reply to # 856,481I am unable to see what you and others seem to see without a willingness to provide me with examples.
Given that my requests for examples are either being ignored (you are not the only one I have requested examples from) OR the examples simply do not exist, I am left with a belief that mega dosing Iodine supplementation, perhaps without adequate mineral supplementation (I take the ML drink, and eat a very mineral rich diet remember?) leads to paranoid delusions, easily enabling a divided front... chapter 6 remember?
I am witnessing those whom I believed otherwise of sound mind fall off the deep end here and am unable to understand why without some help. Do you have those "many" post examples from those "multiple IDs" and do you have proof of "payment" for the services they are rendering... if not, it is merely speculation and suspicion on your part that, as I said borders on paranoid delusion.
If in fact you do have "proof" as apposed to purely circumstantial evidence from your and other's perspectives, you have something, and I will listen and understand; otherwise you have nothing but the wild goings on in your head.
You are obviously an intelligent person in many respects and I have found value in many of your posts, but this is craziness to me.
If your post and those of others are examples of what Iodine supplementation invokes in the mind of people who jump onto\into the mega dosing bandwagon, I would be led to advise extreme caution for ANYONE embarking on the journey.
Sure Iodine may be a "missing" link in the great scheme of things, however, it alone is NOT the be all, end all to health and never will be. Use some common sense here; it would be a breath of fresh air. In fact, the fresh air could do us all some good.- Just when you think ... Newport
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MoreThis is a reply to # 856,519Just when you think you are the only sane person left you may want to take a closer look at what others are seeing and you are missing.
- I am not missing anything... grzbear
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MoreThis is a reply to # 856,525And I most certainly do not want to become what seems to have become of others.
I am done posting on this issue till you, or someone else can provide me solid examples of what you and others seem to be so afraid of.
Posting replies without even attempting to fulfill my simple requests for examples screams out to me the obvious.
I guess I will find myself "shunned" by the "in" crowd in the Iodine forum for this; it will not be the first time it has happened to me... so be it.
- Re: I am not missing anything... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 856,533in order for someone to disrupt the forum they must make themselves look like one of us. you and most other people dont have the time to pay close enough attention to spot this. i have read ALL of 23rd psalms posts. they may as well trash it and start all over again with a new name. this person has been a lot like torrie, even advocating fluoride as an essential element.
what puzzles me about your stance on this issue is that you have very little evidence for either position, which means you are making a personal choice. why chose a stranger over those you have experience with? how many people do i think are hurting curezone? have i acted like some kind of paranoic? how many personal conflicts do you see me having?
the evidence is in the list of all of 23rd psalms posts, if they havent edited them by now. we do need a better system. these monkeys will just keep coming, each one more believable than the one before. i thought i would nip this one in the bud, but people want to believe this nut. i cant do a thing about that. but then, look at all the other things the masses believe. they believe them because they want to, not because they are true.- Re: I am not missing anything... grzbear
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This is a reply to # 856,666You are right that I do not have the time to read all posts… I usually pick and choose based upon topic. I did not read where 23rd Psalms advocated fluoride as an essential nutrient. Given that fluoride was known before the industrial revolution, AND that it occurs naturally in plants, I suspect that there must be a purpose of some sort, maybe as a trace mineral and part of the halide balancing processes, I just do not know.
I can tell you one thing now that I understand a little more about the importance of chloride, I can appreciate the value given to salt in the ancient texts and real salt will now be a big part of my stash.
What I do know is that any mineral, macro or micro in too great a quantity can cause problems, including disease and illness, even death just as easily as a deficit of the same mineral can.
I thought this link by 23rd Psalms to be a good one...
http://www.truehealth.org/
Putting fluoride aside, and having not read anything that 23rd Psalms has posted that would give me the same view of this situation as yourself and others seem to have. I have read responses to 23rd Psalms posts that seem to be inappropriate and unwarranted and questioned why? I have also seen disagree votes for a rather benign or even a positive comment.
I am not supporting 23rd Psalms here as much as I am asking, why the behavior towards him\her?
You know me well enough by now that I do not believe nor follow any one person when it comes to my health and diligently research my butt off in order to (hopefully) make the right decisions for myself.
Quite honestly, if one believes another to be a "troll" or a planted "disruptor" the best course of action would be to simply ignore them, not feed the flames.
BTW, I did go back and read a good 50% of 23rd Psalms posts and still have not hit on the trigger (or the pro fluoride post) to all of this...- Re: I am not missing anything... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 856,718this person is not a newby. they know the ropes here. they know they can edit their posts. that is why i have not bothered to collect evidence. this way, if 23 is sincere, they have every opportunity to straighten their ass out and join the group.
long before i got sick or started seeking physical health advice, i studied people and mental processes. i have already educated this person enough and do not wish to reveal all that i know, so i cant tell you more here. the same dynamic applies as in this scripture:
acts 5
38And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:
39But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
if 23 is sincere, they will remain. if they are not sincere, they will cause more trouble or go away unrewarded, depending on what happens.
you are right, i have made it hard on myself and others by how i have handled it and this has set a contentious tone on the board. it wasnt going anywhere anyway. i think many are worn out trying to rebuild the forum. if the moderator would have moderated instead of meddled it would have gone much smoother.
- Re: I am not missing anything... trapper/kcmo
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- Re: I am not missing anything... grzbear
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- Re: I am not missing anything... trapper/kcmo
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- I am not missing anything... grzbear
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- Re: The enemy is still us... Mistral
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This is a reply to # 856,519I don't see it either. There is someone over there loading some rather intense posts. And getting some rather intense posts back in return. But that is nothing new.
I don't see a conspiracy.
~Mistral (formerly #72081)- Re: The enemy is still us... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 856,529there is a conspiracy. its called planning. a plan is a conspiracy. our society has been planned.
but you dont need to be a party tot he Conspiracy to be a useful idiot. i dont care about the reasons why 23rd psalm is doing what they are doing. the effect is still the same.- ??? Mistral
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This is a reply to # 856,670Is the useful idiot comment directed to me?
I am inclined to find your words insulting, but perhaps I am interpreting them differently than you intended?- Re: ??? trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 856,698sorry. i understood the subject to be 23rd psalm. if not, that is my subject for sure.
- Re: ??? trapper/kcmo
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- ??? Mistral
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- Re: The enemy is still us... trapper/kcmo
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- Just when you think ... Newport
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- The enemy is still us... grzbear
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- Re: So who hijacked the Iodine Suppo... Megabite
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This is a reply to # 856,448Hard to tell exactly, but it's Crystal C. to me that there are people there bashing higher- dose Iodine Therapy, several of them. We could just about guess who might be funding it. Anyway, it's getting where I'm afraid to say anything at all on the Forum. Reminds me of talking about Lyme on the Lyme Forum. After awhile everyone just shut up.
- Re: So who hijacked the Iodine Suppo... Newport
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This is a reply to # 856,507No need to stop, just ignore the obvious IDs and numbers and plug along.
The whole point of bashing is to demoralize the board. - lyme trapper/kcmo
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- Re: lyme Megabite
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This is a reply to # 856,672Yup, weaponized Lyme. I know the entire gamut of it. Could be even connected to the reason why they are quashing Lugol's. I mean how would their constant spraying overhead ever make us depend on Big Pharma and/or kill us if we have something like Iodine to protect us? So I say knowledge is good!
- Re: lyme Megabite
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- Re: So who hijacked the Iodine Suppo... Newport
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- Silliness finallyfaith
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This is a reply to # 856,448i have been on curezone for about a year and a half. in all that time i have never seen ppl in a forum so freaked out and frazzled because someone challenged the popular forum paradigm, or suggested a different dosage than most are taking might be better or whatever.
no one is being paid to disrupt the forum. pray tell, who on earth would pay someone to post messages asking about Iodine dosages? makes no sense.
i am seriously suggesting here that high dosages of Iodine could cause acute thoughts of suspicion. i saw this coming a while back with the whole "satan sprinkled fluoride in our oceans" posts (those posts got eaten up in the great crash of '07).
the other thing to consider is how totally unwelcoming and hostile that forum is to anyone who dares suggest something different from the "in crowds" protocol. how does that promote Iodine use? it does the opposite. it drives people away. so in your hyper suspicious activity you are actually doing exactly the thing you accuse random strangers of .- Re: Silliness grzbear
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- Re: Silliness grzbear
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- The enemy is us grzbear
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