marinewife97,

the only way to win this war is to kill approx. 50% of all Iraqi people
(or approx all males).

Is that you and your husband wish for?

How else do you think this war will end, when every dead Iraqi brings 5 or 10 alive Iraqi on the side against USA and against the present Iraq government.

We can not win this war! Nobody has ever won a war by occupying a nation (in the last 100 years).


I will repeat this: We can not win this war!


marinewife97,
in 2009, you will come back to this message and you will read it.
You will understand who was right and who was wrong.

Do you know how USA won the war against American natives?

By exterminating them. That is the only way to win war against a nation who hates you.

That is the same way Spanish Conquistadores won the war against natives in other parts of American continents.
That is the same way Britain won the war against natives in Africa, Australia and other parts of the world.

By exterminating them.

Once you kill 50% - 90% ... the rest usually agrees and accepts your rule and your laws.


That is the only way how any occupying force can win any war, any time.

Hitler lost war in Europe.
Japan lost war in Asia.
Russia lost war in Afghanistan.
We lost war in Vietnam.
Nobody won war in Korea.
Israel is still fighting in Palestine and is going to fight for the next 100 years.
We "won" in Afghanistan, but are going to fight the war for the next 50 years.


Last 60 years nobody ever won any war by occupying another country.

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

We, as it appears, learned nothing in Vietnam.
I am sorry, I am just realistic, I am not pessimistic.

Get your husband out of Iraq while he is still in one piece. This war is not going to end soon. Read my previous message, to get some insight.

Goldie

my husband is a 1st sgt with an marine infantry unit.he has done 2 tours.although i do not agree with all of bush's policies,i do not beleive that we should pull our troops out,not yet.my husband (in his expert opinion) thinks we should do a sweep of all hot spots first,kind of like in fallujah 'get out or die'.

I'm glad people like your husband are fighting for our country. The problem is our leaders just don't have the atitude necessary to win any war. They should forget business as usual, politically correct and go back to whatever it takes. A little like what we did in World War 2.

Unfortunatly even as Rumsfield pretty much followed the rules of a civilized War, he was a little to effective and the Democrats are now trying to find some way to put him in prison. If you actually do what it takes to win a War quickly with a minimum amount of American casualties you would be imprisoned by American judges-politicians.

Quit worrying about those that would have us all dead. Level Fallujah or any place like it. They would get the message real fast and start loving us real quick. If your not willing to get a little innocent blood on your hands don't do it at all.

To all those Democrats that want us to fight this righteous fair War. Get your fat worthless ass over their and show us how.

My crazy but wonderful husband said we should have just leveled it and took it over. "Iraq a american territory". Not sure I like the sound or thought of that. I can only imagine what we would have to deal with if we did this as well.I don't think anything like this has happened since WW2. Except poor Israel keeps having to give away their territory in the name of peace which will never be. Is the only hope we have that the Iraqi goverment can get control So we can leave their?

mw97: You speak of war but the defination of the word is getting fuzzy as the politicians lie to distort the reality of their situation.

We are not at war! How can it be called a war when the fat old men on the Hill are content to send our troups to a foreign country just to sit around, or drive around until they are shot.
This does not keep us free.
But it does give Islam a softer target than one inside the USA. Does sacrifice come to mind?

Now to your real soap-box issue.
"WAR IS AN UGLY THING,BUT NOT THE UGLIEST OF THINGS.THE DECAYED AND DEGRADED STATE OF MORALE IN THIS COUNTRY IS MUCH WORSE.AN IDIVIDUAL WHO HAS NOTHING FOR WHICH HE IS WILLING TO FIGHT FOR,NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN HIS OWN PERSONAL SAFETY IS A MISERABLE CREATURE WITH NO CHANCE OF BEING FREE UNLESS MADE AND KEPT SO BY BETTER MEN THAN HIMSELF."

What you judge morality on is radically different than what I have encountered. You are saying that morally superior people are in the millitary, thus immoral people are civilians.
You are a good marine wife!
When's the coup d'etat?

Looking into the casket of a fallen Marine, what do you see?