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I read everywhere that hep c gets problematic after 2o or more years of infection.is here anybody who is a long time infected person and would like to share their experiences.I have been infected for thirty years now and my age is 46.Up to now I had no problems except digestive disorders which are according to my doc stress related.I appreciate yor sharing.thanks in advance.- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... #69375
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- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... dr.jeff
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MoreThis is a reply to # 766,455Doing a whole body detox can help to take stress off of the liver. The digestive imbalance may relate to candida issues, which can overwhelm liver function and bring out predisposing conditions like the hep C.
- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... crystal2006
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MoreThis is a reply to # 767,296thanks for answering.what liverfriendly detox do uou suggest.I am on the yeast connection candida diet now for one month but I am not sure about starting the natural antifungals as my ast and alt is very high(test taken before starting the diet)I also wonder why you allow fruit on your Candida protocol?thanks for your help
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This is a reply to # 768,567As long as you follow the LifeForce Plan as it's written, fruit is okay. The Candida Force is very effective at eliminating candida and the natural fruit sugars don't interfere. Most candida diets are based on a program that was created in the 60's that advocated using medications to kill candida. The medications weren't effective, so they eliminated fruit in an attempt to starve out the candida, which is very difficult. They also didn't advocate detoxifying the body through the largest elimination organ, the skin. This resulted in a die-off reaction as it shoul have. The body is already toxic and backed-up with fungal toxins, and adding to that only will make people feel worse. This however became excepted as a good sign, when it really is a bad approach to getting healthy. Increasing toxicity will also increase mucous production which will interfere with elimination of candida, toxins, and absorption of nutrients.
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This is a reply to # 769,774I think your approach is very interesting and thanks for answering.Where does this castor oil you use come from?how would you detox for the hepatitis? I think my candida are ok now I have no more bloating and my candida symptoms are much better.But i would like to work with my liver.Have you a protocol for hep C?
- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... crystal2006
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This is a reply to # 766,455Hi Crystal,
I have had HCV for over 25 years. I have been doing everything natural for years, including humic acid, Mag O7, nutritional IV's, H2O2 (Hydrogen-Peroxid) IV's, Ozone, diet, cleanses, zappers, you name it. Nothing has worked as far as a cure.
On a recent biopsy, I found I had first stage cirrhosis. I was shocked because I feel good. No problems physically except being tired when I do a lot of exercise. If you havent't gotten a biopsy, I highly suggest you get one. There is no other way to find out how fibrotic or damaged your liver is. The French blood test to test for fibrosis is too general.
A high viral load does not mean your liver is bad, and a low viral load does not mean your liver is good, although it can. The viral load only really mans something if you are on the interferon combo and you are trying to go non-detetcted and SVR.
(Sustained Viral Response) You also need to know your genotype. This means everything if you decide to do the allpathic treatment of interferon.
The disease progresses, no matter what you do or spend. Please get checked. Even if you don't want to do the combo, (there are more promising drugs about 10 yrs down the road), you need to know where you stand now.
Very few people get better with alternative medicine if they've had this a long time.
I believe alternative is worth trying, but to do it correctly, plan on spending between $1200 to $2000 a month.
There are many people selling their 'snake medicine'. They do little or nothing to help with the disease.I find Lloyd Wright and Dr Zhang the better and more informed on alternative choices. Lloyd is against the allopathic treatments, but IMO, sometimes the alternatives just don't work for everyone, or they can't afford to do it correctly.
If you do decide to buy into some of the 'machines' or 'alternative wonders', always ask for the names of people, or how many people they know of that has gone SVR with their methods. Most of these people sell hope, and not a cure. It consumes a great amount of time, emotion and money. BTW, Colloidal Silver does not work. I've heard of one person at Santa Monica Hospital in MX that was cured, and that's it. Not worth the money for only one person's success.
I have come to the costly conclusion, that if people were being cured of HCV, they would post it all over the internet, and a line would form outside their practioner's office.
I do know that Antibiotics , except Levaquin, all anti inflammatories and xylitol cause your viral load to spike. I can't say for sure xylitol causes liver problems, but it did with me, and it does cause liver failure in dogs. Leave xylitol to the healthy people. Also, this disease causes havoc with the Thyroid.
Good Luck with whatever path you take. No two people are alike. I wish you the best and I do hope you clear this virus. It is a humbling disease.
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This is a reply to # 768,028Try the full "Beck Protocol". You will be surprised.
While officially the cure for all microbial diseases was found in 1990, in fact, this cure was a repeat of several earlier cures which were ignored by orthodox medicine. All the cures use electromedicine, which was described in medical textbooks before 1910. It was around 1910 when Rockefeller, who had purchased pharmaceutical companies, took over all the medical schools and forced them to abandon electromedicine and herbal medicine. He had the blessings of a corrupt Congress (deja vu).
Here is a small sample of diseases which can be cured with electromedicine:
1) AIDS / HIV,
2) Hepatitis A,
3) Hepatitis B,
4) Hepatitis C,
5) Rheumatoid Arthritis (except for the physical damage already done),
6) Bubonic Plague,
7) Malaria,
8) Cholera,
9) Chronic Fatigue Syndrome,
10) Ebola Virus Hemorrhagic Fever,
11) Lyme Disease,
12) Yellow Fever,
13) Dengue Fever,
14) Epstein Barr,
15) Austism (in most cases),
16) and many, many others.
All of these diseases can be cured with the Bob Beck Protocol, which actually was based on the discovery made by two medical doctors in 1990. The two medical doctors should have won the Nobel Prize, but instead their discovery was crushed because they had found a way to cure AIDS / HIV.
The late Bob Beck, a PhD in physics and an expert in electromedicine, hired a private detective to find the details about their discovery. With this information he found a way to implement their discovery. All of this is very, very well documented because the two doctors filed for a patent in 1993 and described their research. See this article related to AIDS:
Bob Beck Protocol
The treatment does vary a little from disease to disease, but common sense, and an understanding of what causes the disease, can generally lead to the correct protocol.
http://www.natural-treatment.info/
- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... crystal2006
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This is a reply to # 768,028Hi Kat,I am very sorry to hear you have cirrhosis!Thanks a lot for sharing your experience with me.I just want to eat continue to healthy and take milkthistle and some simple supplements as my budget does not allow me expensive cures.What are you going to do now?is there any cure or can you go on like this?did you have healthy biopsies before that recent one?My genotype is 1(can't remember if a o b).My viral load was 2 million IU in may.and my ast and alt is up now(90 and 185)never been so high!it has tripled since may.I also have had sort of uncomfortable feeling under the right ribcage,but not really pain.But I do a ultrasound check up each year(i know you can't see scarring only tumours)and they are ok.the doc says liver not swollen.What genotype are you and how old are you? they say that it gets more dangerous the older you get.i am46.I feel quite worried and think about doing a biopsy but it seems to be only 40% sure.the french bloodtest is the fibroscan??have you heard about fibroscan and did you do it?What kind of lifestyle apart from remedies you described did you have?smoke ,alcohol etc?they say alcohol influences a lot. a bi hug and all the best
- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... Sonja500
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- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... KrazyKat
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This is a reply to # 768,564Hi Crystal,
I'm 56 F. Geno 2b. I never had a biopsy before this one. I didn't want to get one, but it is the ONLY way for them to tell what shape the liver is in. The fibroscan can only tell if your liver is fibrotic, but it isn't very accurate. They must look at the cells of the liver to tell what shape it is in. If you are having problems as you say you are, then I would get a biopsy. I am not sure why you said the biopsy is only 40% sure, or were you speaking about the fibroscan?
I had the same thing you did, normal ultrasounds. 6 mos ago, I started to see a difference. I went to a great team at Yale and what they found wasn't so good. I was floored to hear I had cirrhosis and slight aceties. I have no sypmtoms at this time other than fatigue after extreme physical work or exercise. They can also tell if you have autoimmune hep by a byopsy. If you have autoimmune hep with the HCV, then the drugs could cause you more harm. A biopsy is the only way to tell. It's not fun, but it will ease your mind, or call you to more action. The feeling under your ribcage could be an enlarged liver or gallbladder. The Hulda Clark flushes do help. But it's time to really see what is going on.
I haven't had a drink for over 10 years, way before I knew I had HCV, and only did social drinking before that. I haven't smoked for 30 years. I eat organic, juice and take supplements and herbs. I really work at this thing.
One thing I can recommend that isn't all that expensive are the teas or infusions you make yourself. They do help. This combination helps: Reishi Tea, Milk Thistle Tea, Licorice Tea and Dandelion Tea. You can get the herbs in bulk at either a health food store, or from Lloyd Wright's site, http://www.hepatitiscfree.com/. (Go to the HCV pharmacy) They make me feel better.
BTW, I am still on Alinia and it's giving me a lot of energy. Email or write anytime you want to talk about it.
Best to you!
- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... crystal2006
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This is a reply to # 769,918hi kat,thanks for your message,you scare me a bit.can I contact you by email,as you suggested I would like to talk to you ad keep in touch.
- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... KrazyKat
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This is a reply to # 769,988sure you can. I think that is done if you hit the 'username'.
BTW, I don't mean to scare you, it's a horrid disease which
I didn't take all that seriously when I found I had it.- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... crystal2006
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This is a reply to # 770,349hitting the username does not work.senme one I have yicked the below that I allow to receive emails so clicking on my username should work.thanks
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- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... Sonja500
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This is a reply to # 768,028I have been infected for about 20 years. I follow a good diet and also take a number of herbs. When I first found out I had HCV, I too had very bad digestive problems. My doc fixed that up, as well as bringing my AST and ALT back into the 'normal' range, which is safest and ideally where it should be.
I have heard that those people who have a 1 genotype will develop problems much more slowly than those with a 2 genotype, although 1s are much harder to cure. I am a 1, what are you?- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... crystal2006
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This is a reply to # 769,555hi,I am type 1 ,can't remeber if a or b?what herbs do you take? do you get regular check ups?have you done a recent biopsy?I haven't and don't feel like even if lots of poeple recommend it.May I ask how old you are now ? I am46.thanks for sharing
- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... Sonja500
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This is a reply to # 769,676I'm in my mid 30s. I have a very good doctor who is very open to alternatives, and who lists the herbs and supplements I need to take. She recommends no drugs. She monitors my liver function tests regularly, as well as checks for other things like calcium, iodine, protein. Currently I'm awaiting the results of a candida test. I've only had one biopsy, but it put my mind at ease (as I am only a stage 1 fibrosis. Personally, I would want to know what state my liver was in.
I take milk thistle, alpha lipoic acid, whey proten, kelp, calcium, zinc, selenium regularly, and rotate some herbs such as licorice, shizandra, danelion, spirulina, chlorella, vit C.
It's fine to experiment with things on yourself, but I believe the help of a qualified alternative doctor, or good naturopath with experience in Hep C will give you greater benefits.- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... crystal2006
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This is a reply to # 770,109thnaks sonia for answering.I live in Spain and docs have little experience with hep c but I am looking for one.I have found a homeopathic one but he has not much experience with it,only had a few patinets with hcv.
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This is a reply to # 768,028I have had Hep C for 25 years and I've got to tell you in the last 4 months I've improved my viral load AST & ALT dramatically...I've dropped my viral over 3M units and AST & ALT dropped 17 each b ringing me closer to a normal count...I just started using Colloidal Silver which I am making myself so it isn't very expensive and am feeling pretty good about it all...this is the first time in many years that my results are improving...
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- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... KrazyKat
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This is a reply to # 768,847Hi Sheldon,
Don't you think people would be posting on this site
and every other one that they were cured and SVR
by this method?
My better judgement says they would be, and it would
be all over the net, ABC, NBC, etc. So far, I've heard
people temporarily getting their enzymes to normal, but
after a while, the ole' dragon rears its ugly head
again and you have to deal with it. Take anti inflamms,
vaccines or Antibiotics and you're cooked.
There are no miracle cures at this time. Maybe if you're
recently infected and your immune system hasn't been
fighting this for 20 years, it can better help or you
can go non-detected, but I haven't seen a soul come on
to any HCV forum and declare they were cured by herbs
alone. (Maybe if they were selling something)
As I mentioned, Lloyd Wright has a few that have
done it. But not many. Not enough to get your hopes
up to go non-detected after spending thousands, and I do
mean thousands.
Let me know if you know people personally, and not just
a web site that claims to have cured people. There are
so many preying on the hopes of people seeking cures.
Been there, done that. - Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... Hidden Username
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This is a reply to # 768,847sheldon you wrote, My liver condition never gave me a problem.However,my last biopsy which is given every 5 years showed that the virus was no longer present
The biopsy is done to check for liver damage. The blood is what is tested for the virus.
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- Re: hep c infected for more than 30 ... Lotus Petal
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This is a reply to # 766,455Hi Crystal
We spoke about this in another thread, but just to give you more details. I'm 55, I live in the UK and got Hep C in 1974. Up until now, I've had no problems except unexplained weight gain which I've attributed to the candida, which I also have.
I'm looking forward to learning more about Hep C might be affecting my health.
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This is a reply to # 769,049Hi Lotus,
It seems that the body is always fighting something
with HCV. That's been my finding. Hope you don't
have too many problems.
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This is a reply to # 766,455Hello Dear,
I will like to comment on the matter you have stated in a way such as finding the permanent solution for you and the issue of indejestion will not resurface.
Believe me there is a cure to hepatitis.
I will like to state here that if you are still surferring from the ailment and you are will to get a lasting solution for it you will never play with this information thaty I am about giving to you.
I want you to send a mail to Mr James at concisecorp@yahoo.co.uk and just request for a sample of the medicine and to notify you it is not a herbal medicine it's natural has I have heard him say, tell him the nature of your ailment and the good thing about it that I saw, was the treatment of someone that Hepatitis has even stop stolling and everything was taking care of.
Get in torch with him and recommend him to everyone you know that has hepatitis no matter the type.
Take care
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