An eye opener for all cleansers 
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Just have a look over the following by a M.D. doctor, as to how danagerous is this cleansing.
I had a patient Cirrhosis Liver ( Indeterminate cause) , went on such cleansing diets and regime including enemas etc, felt great for 6 months, had no edema, ascites went away , so he stopped all meds and did not see me for that duration. 6 months later he came to me with a perianal abscess (due to excessive use of
enemas), albumin down to 2.0 g% , totally wasted body mass, developed
encephalopathy in a weeks time and died. He was Child B before naturopathy, with no varices and had a 60 % 5 yr survival chance.
I rest my case even if it is anecdotal.
Dr Sharat Misra MD,DM,FA
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- Re: An eye opener for all cleansers Jasmine
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This is a reply to # 65,478Hi everyone
I posted this reply earlier and forgot to put my name to it. So since this "gentleman"? insists on plastering this message all over the site, I shall re-send my reply.
Dear q
You are guilty of all the vagaries that the medical profession use to discredit those who seek natural remedies. You do not describe in any detail those ‘natural’ remedies that your patient took you just jump to conclusions. What special cleanses were they on, exactly? What type of enemas were they taking and at what intervals? What diet was the patient on and did in include those foods and drinks known to damage the liver/immune system? What was their background? Were they taking their remedies in suitable doses? Were they exercising, getting sufficient rest, under stress etc, etc.
There are a great many factors that could have contributed to this unfortunate and tragic case, including reaction to the allopathic medicine. Did you take a complete history and investigate all possible factors? If not, then go away and investigate thoroughly and come back when you have facts rather than suppositions!
Good luck to all those who have the guts to do their own research, make their own decisions and take responsibility for their own bodies!
Jasmine
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- Re: An eye opener for all cleansers Mikel
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This is a reply to # 65,478
I would like to hear from longtime CEANSE DOERS for how long they have been doing them and how are they doing.
- Dr. Sh rat ? anonymouse
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This is a reply to # 65,478Did i spell that right? I guess I left a letter out.
Well I have done 3 liver gallbladder flushes with the clark method and am workin on the parasite cleanse.
Maby I'll be dead in a while but in the mean time I sure do feel better and the wierd thing is my hair is growing like crazy now.
Can you get hair cancer? - Re: An eye opener for all cleansers UserX
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This is a reply to # 65,478> 6 months later he came to me with a perianal abscess (due to excessive use of
> enemas), albumin down to 2.0 g% , totally wasted body mass, developed
> encephalopathy in a weeks time and died.
Dr Sharat Misra MD,DM,FA,
yes, overdoing of anything can cause health problems and even death.
I think most people are aware of it.
Overeating can cause death.
Overdrinking can cause death.
Running too much can cause death.
Walking too much can cause death.
Driving car can cause death.
Too much sex can cause death.
Does that mean that we shoud avoid eating, drinking, running, walking, driving, having sex?
How about moderation?
No where on this web site or on this forum you will find a recommandation to overdo enema, or to overdo any cleanse.
Moderation is the key to health, not extremism.
Doing enema can also cause addiction.
People who try to do enema every day for over a month, may become addicted, and may not be able to empty colon without doing enema.
That is bad. Enema should be used in moderation, it should not be used to replace natural bowel function.
Too much of good = bad.
Thank you for posting your experience.
Have you ever tried enema yourself?
Have you ever tried Liver Flush yourself?
Try it, before you make any conclusion, it helps understend risks and benefits ....
best of health
Agnes
- *snore* John Cullison
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This is a reply to # 65,478> I rest my case even if it is anecdotal.
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> Dr Sharat Misra MD,DM,FA
Isn't it funny how we in the alternative health field are attacked because all we have is "anecdotal evidence", and yet the allopaths can't attack us with any kind of evidence except anecdotal?
Seems like a double-standard. But, then again, perhaps I'm biased.
- Re: *snore* Mark
22 y
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This is a reply to # 65,514Ya know, there is no real difference between a doctor and a mechanic. The doctor is supposed to know the body and the mechanic your machines. Yet people trust their doctors and alway question their mechanics. Go figure. Know what the 3rd or 4th leading cause of death is in the USA? Yep, doctors and their drugs. Ehhh, "whats up doc"???? I think your, sorry, I know your missing something. Put that in your pipe and smoke it doc and go back to school and really learn about health and healing. And when you learn to really heal the body and lean to follow your own oath "first do no harm" then come back here and let us know. You morons waste my time and kill people with your drugs. How many drugs are you on doc? In a survey of 1000 cancer doctors, 88% said they would not take chemo themselves!?! Uh da, I wonder why? (not all doctors are bad e.i. the emergency and sergeons), just most of them! Hey doc, you need to stop wasting your time on these boards and invest your time in learning what real health and healing is about.
MP MD, PHD, IE, CE, ENVE, (hey look, I have stuff after my name so that gives me the right to think I know what I'm doing! Yippy! Give me some drugs so I can mame and kill! Wahoo!)
> > I rest my case even if it is anecdotal.
> >
> > Dr Sharat Misra MD,DM,FA
>
> Isn't it funny how we in the alternative health field are attacked because all we have is "anecdotal evidence", and yet the allopaths can't attack us with any kind of evidence except anecdotal?
>
> Seems like a double-standard. But, then again, perhaps I'm biased.
>- Re: *snore* #161955
22 y
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This is a reply to # 65,519Two things doctors and attorneys have in common: they both "practice" their respective professions. Perhaps when they are no longer "practicing" and actually "working" like the rest of us poor slobs, then they can justify the huge fees they charge.
- Re: *snore* Paul
22 y
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This is a reply to # 65,519Mark,
I just read your diatribe on physicians.
If you think the whole profession is bad,
just don't go to any doctors.
Don't take any medications.
Good luck,
Paul
- Re: *snore* #161955
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- Re: *snore* Mark
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- Re: An eye opener for all cleansers ... george
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This is a reply to # 65,478I agree, too much of anything can be dangerous. Visiting Doctors too many times will kill you also. Doctors are responsible for over 250,000 deaths in America each year. It is called Iatrogenic Disease.
I find it ironic when people bring up the rare cases like someone has tried something alternative and it fails for them (once in a blue moon), in comparison to the medical approach where thousands die each day of cancer or whateverelse.
Instead of honing in on the minority, look at your majority.
> An eye opener for all cleanser
>
> Just have a look over the following by a M.D. doctor, as to how danagerous is this cleansing.
>
> I had a patient Cirrhosis Liver ( Indeterminate cause) , went on such cleansing diets and regime including enemas etc, felt great for 6 months, had no edema, ascites went away , so he stopped all meds and did not see me for that duration. 6 months later he came to me with a perianal abscess (due to excessive use of
> enemas), albumin down to 2.0 g% , totally wasted body mass, developed
> encephalopathy in a weeks time and died. He was Child B before naturopathy, with no varices and had a 60 % 5 yr survival chance.
>
> I rest my case even if it is anecdotal.
>
> Dr Sharat Misra MD,DM,FA
- Re: An eye opener for all cleansers Jasmine
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