"As is being pointed out by many critics of Carlsen's treatment, the idea of whether her baby's condition demanded urgent medical care is not relevant. "

huzzuh....whaaa?

...looming on the horizon, this issue is one we should ALL be aware of (and actively doing something about!).

It's NOT the goverment's right or priviledge to FORCEFULLY subject our children to whatever "medical procedure" or "medicine" they see fit. Pardon me, but d*mn, the allopathic medical world can't even cure heartburn & constipation! And there's over 100,000 deaths each year from people taking FDA approved drugs. How in the WORLD should the FDA/government be the ones deciding what is best for our children??!!

"It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from
falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the
Government from falling into error."

Robert Houghwout Jackson, Chief Judge, War-Crimes Tribunal, Nuremberg,
1945


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Gunpoint medicine: Why conventional medicine must use intimidation to control patients (opinion)

This commentary is in response to the Medicine at Gunpoint article published earlier, which revealed that conventional medicine is now resorting to kidnapping and the enlistment of gun-toting law enforcement personnel to "persuade" a mother that her infant son should be treated with toxic pharmaceuticals and surgical procedures. Read that story before you read this editorial.

So let me get this straight. In the United States today, if you don't submit to the harmful drugs and surgery of conventional medicine, you will be:

1. Condemned as a criminal.
2. Have your child stolen from you.
3. Be hunted down by armed cops if you try to rescue your child.
4. Receive a bill from the hospital for medical services you refused to authorize.
5. Be sued by collections organizations and have your credit ruined if you refuse to pay the bill.

And the irony in all of this? If the woman had been uninsured, I believe the hospital would have thrown the baby out on the street. No insurance = case closed. Uninsured people who desperately need (and want) treatment are denied treatment every day by conventional medical hospitals and clinics. So why is supposedly saving the life of this one infant suddenly so important when saving the lives of all those other uninsured people isn't?

The answer is obvious: The woman has health insurance. And that baby is the hospital's lifeline to big payouts. Call me cynical, but I actually understand what modern medicine is all about: Profit. It's not about health, it's about Ka-Ching!

Welcome to the world of conventional medicine, where no drug is too dangerous, no surgery too harmful, and no marketing tactic too violent to convince patients they should avoid investigating alternative medicine. And if the guns don't work, there's always psychiatric medicine and chemical lobotomies...

Why help patients when you can simply arrest them?
The founding motto of medicine, "First do no harm" has now become, "First, cuff 'em!" Conventional medicine treatments are now so horrifying to many people that they will, on instinct alone, grab their children and flee the hospitals. Police sirens won't be far behind, of course, since the State now feels it has the right to push certain types of medical treatment over all others. Out of all the systems of medicine available in the world -- Chinese medicine, Ayurvedic medicine, Homeopathic medicine, herbal medicine, nutritional medicine, etc. -- Washington State just happens to choose the most lucrative and politically influential system of medicine to push onto patients at gunpoint: Western medicine, a system of medicine based almost entirely on profiteering, monopoly control, corruption, bribery, disease mongering, false claims and truly bad science.

King County calls this mother a criminal, but who are the real criminals in this case? If I broke into your house and stole your baby because I had decided that the "Mike system" of medicine was the best system for your child, I would be arrested for serious crimes like kidnapping. So why is it perfectly legal when the King County does the same thing?

The real kidnappers here are the law enforcement officials who got suckered into doing the dirty work of an overzealous kidney surgeon who stands to financially benefit from performing the surgery. Sure, maybe this kidney doc actually cares about the infant, too, but since when did one doctor's caring ever justify the terrorizing of a young family and the kidnapping of a child? Listen up, doc: Your misplaced concern does not give you total control over these peoples' lives. And if you think it does then, well, you'll feel right at home with all the other doctors whose egos are so inflated with hot air that we should probably start studying them as a source of renewable energy.

Ignoring doctors' advice for my own health and safety
If doctors' orders are now to be enforced at gunpoint, then I'm going to start wearing a Kevlar vest 24/7, because there's no one who ignores the advice of doctors more frequently than myself, and I have the statistics to prove it: A perfect state of health, outstanding cholesterol and blood pressure numbers, extremely high fitness and blood oxygenation... see the results yourself. I didn't achieve these results by listening to doctors, I promise you! I got these results by fleeing from doctors in much the same way that this mother was trying to do with her child.

In my view, she was entirely justified taking her child away from a roomful of masked men wielding sharp instruments. In a sane world, she could have called 911 and had the hospital staff arrested for kidnapping, but in this world of heavy-handed Western medicine, she was the one arrested and condemned by medical authorities who now believe that medical authority includes the right to medicate people at gunpoint.

Might does not make right. Just because the State has guns, scalpels and prescription drugs doesn't mean it has any right to wield them without serious provocation.

Medical school combat tactics training
I've got a great idea. If doctors are going to continue enlisting law enforcement personnel to arrest and detain patients, why not train the doctors to do the dirty work themselves? Let's take the middle man out of the loop and start arming doctors! That way, patients are already in the hospital when they get shot! (Think of the savings in ambulance fees alone...)

Law enforcement skills can be taught in medical school, right alongside classes in drug dealing. It's not like they're learning anything useful in med school anyway, so why not change the curriculum to something like this:

The new med school combat tactics curriculum

1. Combat tactics with scalpels and other edged weapons
2. Anesthesia and tear gas: Using chemical weapons to subdue patients
3. Defensive Tactics (DT) for handcuffing and detaining patients
4. Anatomy, physiology and Jiu-Jitsu joint manipulations
5. Ambidextrous gun skills: A scalpel in your right hand and a Glock in your left
6. Nutrition and health (class cancelled until further notice)
7. Repeat business secrets: How to create a recurring income stream by injuring patients, then treating them
8. How to lock and load while you stitch up surgical patients
9. Expedient weapons: Syringes, clipboards and X-ray emitters
10. How to use masks and other medical apparel to avoid being identified
11. Disease prevention through nutrition (class no longer available)
12. Hand-to-hand combat: How to use knowledge of anatomy to strike patients at vulnerable "kill" points
13. Verbal assaults: How to intimidate patients using medical babble

As you can clearly see, not only would this curriculum result in producing doctors who are prepared to arrest patients on the spot, it would also allow doctors to earn a little money on the side serving as armed FDA agents conducting raids on vitamin shops! And if anyone gets hurt or shot during the raid, no sweat... the doctor is right here! In fact, he's the one who shot you! (There's a secret compartment containing needles and stitches in the handle of his Rambo knife...)

All you fascists out there, don't send me angry emails about the above joke. I'm only kidding. I would never really suggest teaching combat skills to doctors. They're dangerous enough already.

The future of Gunpoint Medicine
Ever wonder where Gunpoint Medicine is headed? Imagine mandatory mental health screening for everyone, where the very act of questioning the sanity of such a program automatically qualifies you as suffering from a mental health disorder that demands "treatment" with psychotropic drugs. Refuse the treatment, and you will have a gun shoved in your face, a straight jacket slapped around your torso, and the drugs will be delivered intravenously while you remain in a state of complete mental incapacitation for as long as your insurance keeps paying (after which time you'll be left to die).

Have no illusions: The evildoers who run medicine today are working diligently to create a system of medicine where vitamin companies are shut down, herbal doctors are imprisoned, naturopathic doctors are denied the right to practice medicine, and the truth about the healing powers of vitamins, minerals, herbs, supplements and even ordinary foods is routinely censored.

These devious miscreants want to create a world where you can choose any system of medicine you want, as long as it's their system. All newborns will be instantly diagnosed with disease from the moment of birth, and the diagnoses will continue through adolescence, adulthood, the senior years and right to the day of death. There is no day in the life of any human being that should not be chemically assisted, they believe, and they're willing to resort to the threat of violence to enforce it.

Ever notice that no other system of medicine needs to resort to violence to market its services? Nobody flees an acupuncture clinic. Parents don't grab their children and run from an herbal medicine practitioner. The thought of being treated with homeopathy doesn't instill fear in the minds of patients. Only conventional medicine horrifies its patients to such a degree that its services must be marketed at gunpoint.

Think about it: Conventional medicine is so harmful, so dangerous and so downright scary in its abuse of patients with toxic chemicals, radical surgeries and cancer-causing radiation treatments that the pushers of this outdated Western medical philosophy actually have to enlist men carrying firearms to convince some patients not to explore alternatives.

Most people are easily fooled into conventional treatments by drug ads, junk Science and disease mongering. But for the rest, there's always Gunpoint Medicine.

Coming soon: Pharmaceutical ammo
What's next for conventional medicine? It's not enough to demand the mass medication of the public by dripping toxic fluoride into public water supplies. Why not mass-medicate the entire population with pharmaceutical-tipped ammo?

Prozac-coated bullets would make cops' jobs much easier: After you shoot patients, they actually feel better and are far less likely to sue!

Statin-drug ammo would improve the patient's blood profile to make up for the blood lost after being shot.

Ritalin-dipped hollow points would help people focus better after they've been shot, and to prevent being distracted by the pain of severe internal hemorrhaging.

Beta blocker bullets would reduce the blood pressure of shooting victims, thereby reducing blood loss and saving lives!

You see, there's no end to the benefits of Western medicine when combined with firearms! Think of the possibilities: Automatic weapons for medicating crowds, sniper rifles for long distance "treatment" of patients, and pharmaceutical mortar shells for medicating entire neighborhoods!

It's good for America, too, since it would boost the revenues for defense contractors and drug companies at the same time. It's all about creating jobs, right? No matter who has to be harmed in the process...

You're right: It's ridiculous
Now, if you think all this crazy talk sounds utterly ridiculous, you're absolutely right. It is ridiculous, but no more ridiculous than what is taking place right now in King County, Washington with the kidnapping of an infant on "doctor's orders" and the arrest and jailing of the mother on felony charges.

Firearms and medicine simply don't mix, and if conventional medicine is so scary to some parents that they will grab their children and flee, maybe it's time we stopped blaming sane, rational parents for questioning modern medicine and started looking at the problems in medicine itself.

Perhaps the human body wasn't designed to be chemically treated, sliced up by surgeons and irradiated with mammography equipment. Maybe obesity is not a problem of having "too much stomach" that must be removed by surgeons. Maybe Depression is just a combination of nutritional deficiencies rather than a shortage of brand-name drugs. Perhaps fear of public speaking isn't a disease at all, but rather just a normal human experience.

Maybe, just maybe, Western medicine is outmoded, over-hyped and based on decades of fraudulent science. Maybe the body isn't just a collection of parts... maybe it's a whole that needs to be treated holistically. Perhaps the patient needs to be considered in the big picture: Her feelings, fears, hopes and beliefs.

Perhaps forcing children to undergo toxic cancer treatments and surgical procedures while arresting and jailing their parents is one of the most evil acts that any State or system of medicine could possibly initiate.

One question for everybody: How does kidnapping a child at gunpoint, arresting and jailing the parent, and terrorizing the entire family qualify under the medical motto of, "First, do no harm?"

http://www.newstarget.com/019536.html

grz

Child in medical dispute to stay with dad By DONNA GORDON BLANKINSHIP, Associated Press Writer
Thu Jul 6, 10:12 PM ET



An ailing 9-month-old boy whose mother sneaked him out of a hospital to prevent doctors from performing court-ordered surgery may live with his father until permanent custody is decided, a judge ruled Thursday.

Riley Rogers had the surgery last week and was expected to leave the hospital Friday.

The boy's mother, Tina Carlsen, was charged with second-degree domestic-violence kidnapping after she took Riley from the hospital on June 22 by hiding him inside a diaper bag. Carlsen wanted to seek natural treatments for the child's poorly functioning kidneys, but the judge sided with doctors who insisted the boy needed surgery to prepare for dialysis.

After the child disappeared, authorities issued an Amber Alert and spent two days searching for the pair. They were found about 50 miles south of Seattle.

The case has put the boy and his mother at the center of a legal battle testing the rights of parents and the roles of doctors and judges in disputes over children's medical treatment.

The boy's father, Todd Rogers, said both parents will continue to press doctors to consider alternative treatments. He did not endorse Carlsen's removal of the child from the hospital but said he understood why she took such drastic action.

"Any mother would respond the way Tina did," Rogers said.

The custody agreement requires Rogers to cooperate with doctors at Children's Hospital and Medical Center in Seattle. Carlsen will be granted supervised visits with the boy.

Carlsen, 34, pleaded not guilty to the criminal charges last week. She is free on bail while awaiting trial.