This is one bad flush experience:

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To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com
From: echies@writeme.com
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 15:51:28 -0000
Reply-To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [gallstones] What do I use to break up stones before flush.


I did my first flush last week. The morning of my flush after the
Epsom Salt at 6:00am I had a attack, then after the next Epsom Salt
another mild attack. I passed about 200 pea and rice size stones
(Praise the Lord). That evening when I ate chicken soup(2 bowls) it
through me into a massive attack (threw up) my worst yet, I was in
the ER after the pain wouldn't go away after 4 hours. I think some
of the stones are to big and are getting stuck. Is their something I
could take to break them down before I do the flush again. I am a
breastfeeding mom so that may limit what I can take.

God Bless.
Thank you,
Heidi


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From: echies@writeme.com
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 12:30 am
Subject: Re: What do I use to break up stones before flush.

I did The Clark Flush , followed it to the letter. I don't know what
the problem really was. The week before I trying a different flush,
3 days only apple juice then olive oil and lemon juice. I had a bad
attack the day after that one to. I didn't pass any stone, that I
could tell. I'm a bit scared to try again. I could use all the
advise I could get. I mentioned the flush to Doctor, he looked at me
like I was crazy and said " they were probably not gall stones", HA!
I know they were. Heidi


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From: echies@writeme.com
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 2:41 am
Subject: Re: What do I use to break up stones before flush.

> Heidi, do you know the size of your stones?

I don't know, forgot to ask.
Heidi



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From: echies@writeme.com
Date: Sun Oct 7, 2001 8:40 pm
Subject: Re: What do I use to break up stones before flush.



I'm sorry it was taken so long to reply to your message. I was
hospitalized twice last week with gallbladder attacks and
unfortunately had it removed on Thursday. I will answer your
question in a hope it will help someone else.
The first attack lasted about 45 minutes and was on a scale of 1-10,
a 8. the second and third were milder 4 and the last after the
homemade chicken soup was a 7 that just would not stop, I believe it
lasted 7 hours. The later attack came after eating eggs which had
not been a trigger food for me before. The attack lasted 40 minutes
it was a 7, after recovering for 20 minute I drank 3 ounces of juice
only to get another attack. That one lasted 7 hours before I went to
the hospital and then 6 more after that.

I'm a 32 year old female
5 children our youngest being 9 months old
I'm half Swiss and half Spanish
5'2'' and 40 pounds over weight
My diet is very bad lots of fatty deserts
no glasses
One German Shepard.
Did not do the parasites cleanse yet.

I think I trying to much to fast without making enough dietary
changes did me in. The frequent attacks caused inflammation ( stones
stuck)and infection which led to more attacks. I do hope some one
can learn from my mistakes. If you have good information on what I
do now I would love the information. I know I traded one problem for
another.
Thank you all for your help,

Heidi


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From: "echies"
Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 6:25 pm
Subject: Attack during flush (Heidi)



Trying to answer some questions. This is Heidi. My first flush I did was the
only apple juice for 3 days and then 3 ounces of lemon and 3 ounces of olive
oil. Before I did this flush I had only had 2 mild attacks, (only when I ate 2
or 3 really fatty meals in a row with little water). It was after the first
flush when my problems really started. I did not get stones out with the first
flush. The morning after the first flush when I ate for the first time I had
bad attack lasting 3-4 hours. It was bad but I could feel it as it moved down
my back and chest until it passed. I learned after that attack if I breathed
deep and relaxed it would go away faster, so ever attack after that one I would
lay in bed and relax until it was over. I don't believe fear was a part of it.
The two attacks that landed me in the hospital were after the 2nd flush (Clark
flush) I got rid of 200 small stones, but I was more susceptible to attacks for
some reason. The attacks that put me in the hospital were different, the pain
was not excruciating but, it just would not go away. I am a healthy person with
no other health problems. I wish I would not have had my gallbladder out, I
would have tried to flush more. I traded one problem for another, I would
recommend people to try the flushes and don't give up.

Heidi

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