I appreciate your input and the care behind it.
BaileysMum
Hi Trapper!
Thanks so much for your positive thoughts, energy and outlook! The more of that, the better, right?
After all, isn't reality largely agreement? Not to get too philosophical...
But I am convinced the more agreement, the more real.
Thanks again, I really appreciate it!
Love back at you,
BaileysMum
“Glyconutrients are probably your best chance of winning against this cancer.”
From my research, I’m thinking they’ll help my body do its job—along with a good attitude, spiritual strength, and good nutrition.
“You did not mention its origin or diagnostic name, which might give me some idea of how urgent your need of stopping and reversing the disease process is.”
Small Cell Carcinoma of the Bartholin’s Gland, metastasized to the Liver. This is an extremely rare subset of a rare subset of a rare cancer (depending on who you talk to, either vaginal or vulvar cancer). Factors that makes it as rare as it is (only 100 cases ever reported) are the point of origin and that it is small cell cancer. The Bartholin’s Gland is one of two at the opening of the vagina whose function is to provide lubrication. It went from Stage 2 to Stage 4 in like 2 weeks, so it is very aggressive.
“Has the oncologist given you a prognosis?”
He was understandably (and admirably) reluctant to do so since those stats don’t take into account so many variables (for example, age and health of the patient). He did say it was inoperable and incurable (“it always comes back”) and if I were to look it up, the books would say 12-14 months. That’s not to say it couldn’t go into remission for up to a couple of years at a time. I did change Doctors and asked the second one about the “no cure” thing, didn’t anyone ever go into “permanent remission?” He said he didn’t want me to leave thinking he had promised me a cure, but yes, there were “very, very, very rare cases” of permanent remission.
A major factor for my case is the liver involvement, since if that goes so does this body. On initial diagnosis the CAT Scan showed “multiple” tumors in the liver, the largest of which was 4 cm. It had also become very enlarged very fast (within 2 weeks), so enlarged that I couldn’t hold more than a couple of spoonfuls of food in my stomach at a time without pain (I got around this by eating really frequently to make sure I got the same amount of food). The good news is that the liver went back to normal size after the first course of chemo and I have been able to eat normally ever since.
More good news is that after 3 courses of chemo (a course is: day 1 – Carboplatin and Etopocide, next day – Etopocide, next day (day 3) – Etopocide; Prior to chemo infusion each time I get Zofran, Decadron and Zantac for side effects and on the day following chemo I get a shot of Neulasta to stimulate White Cell growth; this regimen is repeated every 3 weeks, with monitoring of my blood counts, kidney function, etc. in between), the original Bartholin’s tumor (4-5 cm) is gone completely as are some of the liver tumors with the largest (originally 4 cm) now down to 1.2 cm.
My original oncologist also told me that it was “weird,” because with what I had he would expect to see indicators in my blood but my blood looked like the blood of a perfectly healthy person, and the rest of my body was the “picture of perfect health.” He said that should help me fight the disease more effectively.
“I assume from the quote that you are not overweight.”
No, I have “skinny” genes, so I am thin naturally. I am 5’6”, small framed and normally weigh between 115 and 120 pounds.
“Have you lost a lot of weight or are you losing weight fast at present?”
“Probably your best strategy, if you are not overweight, is to eat enough to maintain weight and strength.”
Exactly my thoughts on the matter, and I am doing so.
“Your best bet is to support your body's immune and repair systems aggressively. They can annihilate tumors in amazingly short time, once the cancer is no longer invisible to them.”
Ditto. My conclusion is the same as yours.
I am aware of this and I’m “on it.” My appetite is great (I’m “pigging out!” J no nausea so far.
“I have observed many cancer patients who took A*****ose and had minimal side effects, some not losing their hair.”
“You may also get into a study conducted by Fisher Institute for Medical Research, which when accepted, you will get A*****ose and other assorted nutraceuticals at about half the retail price. Find it online with a search.”
Thanks for this. I’ll check into it for sure! As for getting things at half price, I’m not sure I’d even be able to do that, though, especially at the doses you’re recommending. Public health insurance is paying for the medical care, and it’s truly a sad commentary that it won’t pay for nutritional support. However, with my financial situation I don’t know how much of anything I’m going to be able to pay for on my own.
“Because the cancer is stage IV and aggressive, I suggest strongly that you get started ASAP and do a protocol faithfully for a month, then evaluate your results.”
My sentiments exactly! I am willing to try anything with a good track record that won’t cause harm.
Thanks for your recommendations. Unfortunately, the cost of the M****tech products might just prove prohibitive for me with my financial situation. It’s a shame there isn’t some sort of a program for people in my financial circumstances in our own country. Anyway, that’s why I’m looking for the homemade stuff. Oh well….
“Do you sleep well in darkness?”
Other than waking briefly a few times a night (menopausal) I sleep fine. I did try Melatonin though with no discernible change. I don’t see the waking as a problem and seem to be getting enough rest—I think it’s just the toll of the chemo battle that’s got me tired.
Thanks for your suggestions about yard sales and getting help from others. I’m in no shape to be doing yard sales myself right now and not sure that would buy more than a month or two’s supply of the products you suggest. I’ll see if I can get someone to do something for me, but frankly it’s hard to ask.
Thanks again for taking the time and for your good heart and good wishes!
BaileysMum
From my research, I’m thinking they’ll help my body do its job—along with a good attitude, spiritual strength, and good nutrition.
Quite right! I believe that it was John Steinbeck who wrote, "A sad soul will kill you quicker than any germ."
“You did not mention its origin or diagnostic name, which might give me some idea of how urgent your need of stopping and reversing the disease process is.”
Small Cell Carcinoma of the Bartholin’s Gland, metastasized to the Liver. .....A major factor for my case is the liver involvement, since if that goes so does this body. On initial diagnosis the CAT Scan showed “multiple” tumors in the liver, the largest of which was 4 cm. It had also become very enlarged very fast (within 2 weeks), so enlarged that I couldn’t hold more than a couple of spoonfuls of food in my stomach at a time without pain (I got around this by eating really frequently to make sure I got the same amount of food). The good news is that the liver went back to normal size after the first course of chemo and I have been able to eat normally ever since....
My original oncologist also told me that it was “weird,” because with what I had he would expect to see indicators in my blood but my blood looked like the blood of a perfectly healthy person, and the rest of my body was the “picture of perfect health.” He said that should help me fight the disease more effectively.Those results are wonderful! As dangerous as liver mets can be, I have observed so many times that its regenerative abilities reverse and replace tumors with healthy tissue, especially with a combination of glyconutraceutical support in conjunction with chemotherapy.
On bloodwork, it is not uncommon for liver enzymes to be elevated when tumors are shrinking, but otherwise we have come to expect that lab results will remain normal or close to normal with adequate glyconutrient support. That is after receiving literally hundreds of labwork reports. The report that says that your blood work "looked like the blood of a perfectly healthy person," and the oncologist's surprise indicates that you have been taking enough A*****ose to reach your response threshold level. Combine that mixed with equal amounts of soy lecithin and you hopefully will at least triple your absorption and get even more and better responses. Let's confound the oncologists!
I have been informed that Lewis Labs makes a good product, at about $18 a coffee can sized container. I have recently found another company, Fearns, has about triple the phosphatidyl inositol at $12 for the same size can, both available in health food stores and some groceries. I don't know whether they follow GMP (good manufacturing practices) that one batch is as good as another and ingredient amounts are consistant.
One more suggestion. If you have external lesions at your original site, I suggest that you mix FIRM with A*****ose, available from your friend, smear it on at bedtime and cover with plastic wrap, cut to size, to keep it moist and avoid messing your sheets. Your underwear should be adequate to hold the plastic wrap in place. If the lesion(s) are open and weeping, substitute Emprizone for FIRM. You might try it on a small area for starters, to minimize the possibility of allergy. Repeat each night for at least a week and see whether you notice improvement. Let's go after this thing inside and out!
A study that supports why glyconutrition works and I have another listing of 14 cancer studies with fucoidan (sulfated fucose) that I will look for and post here:
Sulfated polysaccharides increase plasma levels of SDF-1 in monkeys and mice: involvement in mobilization of stem/progenitor cells. available at PubMed
Thanks for your suggestions about yard sales and getting help from others. I’m in no shape to be doing yard sales myself right now and not sure that would buy more than a month or two’s supply of the products you suggest. I’ll see if I can get someone to do something for me, but frankly it’s hard to ask.
Concerning your money woes, I understand completely. Hopefully, the homemade product will be as effective or better than A*****ose standards. When I say do a 30 day test run, most households can support once a $1000 to $2000 financial requirement, but a continuing monthly bill of $200 or $300 is usually a heavy burden. However, when a patient with a dismal prognosis sees improvement within a week or so, and labwork confirms it, supporters rally and they will find a way to keep it going. A mom with children to raise tends to push a button to help in most people.
Asking for help is tough. The ego is about looking good, and does not like lessons in humility. Can you consider it an exercise in spiritual growth?
musashi
Thanks again for taking the time to help! You are a clearly a kind and caring person with a good heart. Thank you.
“Those results are wonderful! As dangerous as liver mets can be, I have observed so many times that its regenerative abilities reverse and replace tumors with healthy tissue, especially with a combination of glyconutraceutical support in conjunction with chemotherapy.”
That's exactly what I had in mind!
“The report that says that your blood work "looked like the blood of a perfectly healthy person," and the oncologist's surprise indicates that you have been taking enough A*****ose to reach your response threshold level.”
Actually, that was before I started taking the A*****ose. I figure all the other things I’ve been doing right gave me a better jumping off point, but I’m convinced the glyconutrients can only enhance my body’s ability to heal itself.
“Combine that mixed with equal amounts of soy lecithin and you hopefully will at least triple your absorption and get even more and better responses.”
How do you suggest I take the soy lecithin? I’ve never taken it, and it seems to be in a granular form. Should I mix it into something?
“Let's confound the oncologists!”Yeah! Let's!
“I have been informed that Lewis Labs makes a good product, at about $18 a coffee can sized container. I have recently found another company, Fearns, has about triple the phosphatidyl inositol at $12 for the same size can…”Pardon my denseness, but am I right in assuming that these are both soy lecithin products?
“One more suggestion. If you have external lesions at your original site…”I don’t, but thanks, I’ll keep this advice handy.
“Concerning your money woes, I understand completely”
Thanks for your understanding!
“Asking for help is tough. The ego is about looking good, and does not like lessons in humility. Can you consider it an exercise in spiritual growth?”Of course I should do that. When you are a strong and independent person it’s hard. When I was having a hard time “inconveniencing” her, one of my friends gave me a great quote from the movie, “Enchanted April”:
"You can't be so independent that you don't allow others to be generous."
And once again, thanks for your help, Musashi!
Actually, that was before I started taking the A*****ose.
That is even better. It indicates that you have a lot of resilience left. However, because you tolerated the chemo well, you can expect more of it in the next rounds. The nutraceuticals will support your healthy cells (and the great majority are healthy) while the weak, fragile cancer cells die from the poisoning. As I said before, you can expect your bloodwork to stay in the normal/near normal range as bone marrow, liver, and kidneys do better than your oncologist's other patients.
How do you suggest I take the soy lecithin? I’ve never taken it, and it seems to be in a granular form. Should I mix it into something?
Stir the granulated soy lecithin into an equal amount of the A*****ose or better, use a blender. The "Magic Bullet" blender is super convenient. You can even include PhytAloe, if you get that also. You can easily mix it into liquids such as milk, soy milk, soup or even water. My wife blends it into chocolate ice cream as her favorite strategy. I have mixed it into apple sauce, puddings, and eaten it made into a cake. Lewis Labs and Fearns are two manufacturer brand names of granulated soy lecithin. Feel free to be creative.
Fucoidan is sulfated fucose, a 6 carbon sugar, with sulfate ions at the carbons in a vegetable matrix, the A*****ose using a seaweed from Tasmanian waters for lack of pollution and the richest source. You may remember drawing the sugar diagrams in high school?
The fucoidan studies are cached but can be found in Google by writing in, Fucoidan Cancer Studies, and scrolling down to it, in 6th position tonight. Click on the "cached" and it should come up. You may want to save it to Favorites and print off a copy for your oncologist, along with the study on adult stem cells that I included last post. Meanwhile, I will try a copy and paste for the search challenged.
FUCOIDAN - Metastasis Related Studies
| In a study done at Fukuoka University, Japan, researchers discovered that fucoidan inhibited the invasion of cancer cells. They discovered that fucoidan specifically inhibited the attachement of cancer cells to laminin. (Soeda S. et al. “Aminated fucoidan promotes the invasion of 3 LL cells through reconstituted basement membrane: its possible mechanism of action,” Cancer Letter, 1994 Sep: 85(1):133-8.) |
At the National Institute of Lung Disease and Tuberculoses, in Warsaw, Poland, researchers discovered that lectin-like adhesion molecules situated on pulmonary cell surfaces are at least partially responsible for the adhesion of sarcoma cells. By adding fucoidan to the incubated cells, the sarcoma cells were inhibited from adhering to the healthy cells. In vivo, it was discovered that administering fucoidan significantly inhibited the settling of metastatic sarcoma cells in the lungs of mice. Basically, when lectin-like adhesion sights are blocked by glycoconjugates, like fucoidan, tumor cell colonization can be significantly inhibited. (Roszkowski W et al. “Blocking of lectin-like adhesion molecules on pulmonary cells inhibits lung sarcomaL-1 colonization in BALB/c-mice,” Experientia, 1989 Jun:45(6:584-8.) | |
In another study done at Fukuoka University, by the Faculty of Pharmeceutical Sciences, researches found that fucoidan is a “potent inhibitor of tumor cell invasion.” Specifically, fucoidan inhibited the ability of the tumor cells to bind with laminin. Researchers further speculated that fucoidan blocked the adhesion by inhibiting the actual physical interaction between tumor cells and laminin. (Soeda S et al. “Inhibitory effect of oversulfated fucoidan on invasion thgrough reconstituted basement membrane by murine Lewis lung carcinoma,” Jpn J Cancer Research, 1994 Nov:85(11)44-50.) | |
At Mie University, in Tsu, Japan, researchers experimented with lung metastasis induced by Lewis lung carcinoma. By injecting fucoidan after the removal of the primary tumor, metastasis was inhibited. The results of this study show that fucoidan may have clinical value in the prevention of cancer metastasis. (Itoh, H. et al. “Immunological analysis of inhibition of lung metastases by fucoidan (GIV-A) prepared from brown seaweed Sargassum thunbergii,” Anticancer Research, 1995 Sep-Oct: 15(5B):1937-47.) | |
| In a study done at the Saint Louis Hospital, in Paris, France, researchers discovered that thrombospondin is an adhesive glycoprotein that promotes breast cancer adhesion to vascular endothelial cells. Once again, fucoidan was shown to be able to block the binding of thrombospondin to these cells by more than 60 percent. (Incardona F. et al. “Heparin-binding domain, type 1 and type 2 repeats of thrombospondin mediate its interaction with human breast cancer cells,” J Cell Biochem, 1996 Sep: 62(4):431-42.) |
| Researchers at Gifu University in Japan extracted 31 fractions of neutral and acidic polysaccharides from brown sea plant. They then tested these fractions for anti-tumor activity in mice with Ehrlich carcinoma. Two ot the fractions had such activity. On the basis of chemical and spectral analyses these compounds were found to be fucoidan. (Zhang C. et al. “Antitumor active fucoidan from the brown seaweed, umitoranoo (Sargassum thunbergii), Biosci Biotechnol Biochem, 1995 Apr:59(4):563-7.) |
| In the Laboratoire de Pharmacologie Marine, in Nantes, France, researchers studied the anti-tumor and anti-proliferative properties of fucoidan extracts from brown sea plant. They discovered that fucoidan exerts a reversible antiproliferative activity in the GI p[hase of the cell cycle. Their study also showed anti-tumor activity in mice bearing non-small-cell bronchopulmonary carcinoma cancer. Their study indicates that fucoidan exhibits inhibitory effects both in vitro and in vivo as a potent anti-tumor agent. (Riou D. et al. “Antitumor and antiproliferative effects of fucan extracted from ascophyllum nodosum against a non-small-cell bronchopulmonary carcinoma line,” Anticancer Research, 1996 May-Jun: 16(3A):1213-8.) |
| The department of Hematology at Philipps University in Marburg, Germany, discovered that the addition of fucoidan to adrenal cancer cells, inhibited angiogenesis binding, thereby stopping the vasculation of tumor growths. (Zugmaier G. et al. “Polysulfated heparinoids selectively inactive heparin-binding angiogenesis factors,” Ann N Y Academy of Science, 1999:886:243-8.) |
In a study done at Mie University in Japan, researchers discovered that fucoidan acted as an activator for the reticuloendothelial system (the phagocytic system of the body, including the fixed macrophages of tissues, liver and spleen). Fucoidan enhanced the phagocytosis of macrophages. This study suggests that the antitumor activity of fucoidan is related to the enhancement of the body’s immune system. (Itoh H. et al. “Antitumor activity and immunological properties of marine algal polysaccharides, especially fucoidan, prepared from Sargassum thunbergii of Phaeophyceae,” Anticancer Research 1993 Nov-Dec:13(6A):2045-52.) | |
| At the Harvard medical School, researchers introduced mammary tumors into female rats. The study showed that rats treated with fucoidan took a longer time to tumor than did the control rats. (Teas, Jan et al. “Dietary Seaweed (Laminaria) and Mammary Carcinogenesis in Rats.) Cancer Research Vol. 44, July, 1984, 2758-2761.) |
FUCOIDAN - Immune System Related Studies
Doctors at the Department of Medicine at the University of Washingtom, Seattle, discovered that by administering fucoidan to mice and primates they were able to increase the level of white blood cells. White blood cells are macrophages responsible for phagocytosis of viruses and damaged cells. (Sweeney EA, et al. “Sulfated polysaccarides increase plasma levels of SDF-1 in monkeys and mice: involvement in mobilization of stem/progenitor cells,” Blood, 2002 Jan: 99(1):44-51.) | |
| According to researchers, fucoidan acts as a second signal for activation of macrophages. This second signal incites the body to respond to threats and act against them. Fucoidan also triggered cytolysis of aged macrophages. (Somers SD et al. “Maleyated bovine serum albumin triggers cytolytic function in selected populations of primed murine macrophages,” J Immunol, 1987 Aug: 139(4):1361-8.) |
Fucoidan has been shown to play an important role in the immune response. One study showed that fucoidan blocked macrophage activation during the inductive phase, but enhanced macrophage activation during the effector phase. (Sugawara I et al. “Fucoidan blocks macrophage activation in an inductive phase but promotes macrophage activation in an effector phase,” Microbiol Immunol, 1984:28(3):371-7.) | |
The Department of Biology at the Chinese University of Hong Kong reported a study that suggests that fucoidan fights cancer by enhancing cell-mediated immune responses. This enhancement may result in the activation of many kinds of immune cells that are vitally important to the maintenance of homeostasis. (Ooi, Vincent and Fang Liu. “Immunomodulation and Anti-Cancer Activity of Polysaccaride-Protein Complexes.: Current Medicinal Chemistry, 2000, 7, 715-729.) |
It worked! This is from an older, inactive site, and there has been much progress since then. But it will get you started.The benefits are proven all over the world.
Finally, I have mentioned phosphorylated inositol several times, a 6 carbon sugar with phosphate ions at each carbon as in IP-6 and its lesser permutations. Here is a site with articles that explain the anticancer benefits of this molecule which works even better in combination with straight inositol. Dr Abul Kalaam Shamsuddin, MD, PhD is a Pakistani immigrant almost 30 years ago who has studied this extensively and now has his own product line touting its anti cancer and cardiovascular benefits.
http://www.ip-6online.com/articles.html
As for your spiritual work, consider Buddhist monks in India. A layman reaches a point in his life and decides to be a monk for a few months or even years. Part of the journey is wearing the orange robe, traveling about with no money or possessions but the begging bowl. He must beg for his meals and not resent it when turned down. Everyone can recognize that he is on his spiritual journey and if they can, mostly they will feed him. Think about what that does to a proud man...or woMan. ...if they are serious and do their internal work.
God bless and support you on your journey!
musashi
Hi Musashi!
All I can say is WOW!!!! What an amazingly good hearted soul you are! This data is great and that you took the time to put it all together for me (along with anyone else who might have need of it) just floors me! I cannot thank you enough! You are really racking up major points in the good karma column! Bless you!!!
“Actually, that was before I started taking the A*****ose.
“That is even better. It indicates that you have a lot of resilience left. However, because you tolerated the chemo well, you can expect more of it in the next rounds. The nutraceuticals will support your healthy cells (and the great majority are healthy) while the weak, fragile cancer cells die from the poisoning. As I said before, you can expect your bloodwork to stay in the normal/near normal range as bone marrow, liver, and kidneys do better than your oncologist's other patients.”
That’s what I’ve been thinking!
“You can even include PhytAloe, if you get that also. …I have mixed it into apple sauce, puddings, and eaten it made into a cake.”
What’s PhytAloe? From what you’re saying I take it that heat or cooking doesn’t affect its effectiveness adversely?
“Fucoidan is sulfated fucose, a 6 carbon sugar, with sulfate ions at the carbons in a vegetable matrix, the A*****ose using a seaweed from Tasmanian waters for lack of pollution and the richest source. You may remember drawing the sugar diagrams in high school?”
No, in High School I studiously avoided chemistry or anything I thought might have anything to do with chemistry. As a result, this is soaring by at a considerable distance over my head! J So, Fucoidan sounds good! So is it something I can get without it costing an arm and a leg? Again, I cannot afford to spend any more than…well as little as possible! Any suggestions on where I can get it without a lot of built-in mark-up?“Finally, I have mentioned phosphorylated inositol several times, a 6 carbon sugar with phosphate ions at each carbon as in IP-6 and its lesser permutations. Here is a site with articles that explain the anticancer benefits of this molecule which works even better in combination with straight inositol. Dr Abul Kalaam Shamsuddin, MD, PhD is a Pakistani immigrant almost 30 years ago who has studied this extensively and now has his own product line touting its anti cancer and cardiovascular benefits.
Thanks for this. I’ll check it out.
Thanks again Musashi, you have been wonderful!
God bless you,
BaileysMum
Hi Florist,
Thanks for your advice!
"This company also has a wellness bottle that increases the killer cells in the body by the way it filters."
What company are you referring to?
Thanks for the info on the dosing. That's helpful!
I got what you said about chemo and in fact do agree with your logic.
That said, when my cancer went from Stage 2 to Stage 4 in 2 weeks, and I was told that I could literally be dead in weeks (which was very real to me from my subjective experience of what was happening with my body) I realized that I didn't have the luxury of time to experiment with alternatives that might or might not be effective against what I had. Not all cancers are the same and not all are as agressive as the one I have, so this will not always be the case, but for me it was crucial to hop onto what was known to be effective at killing this particular one despite whatever else it might do. When your life is on the line, you become more willing to change your previously held opinions however strong.
I think an apt analogy would be something like:
When you are being eaten alive by pyrannahas and the ONLY sure way to stop them is to poison the water you're in (at definite short-term, but reversible, risk to yourself), you weigh the consequences and do what you have to do to survive.
The view is MUCH different when your life is at risk. When confronted with life-threatening evil you tend to pick the lesser evil which is your best bet for survival.
Again, thanks so much for caring and taking the time to respond!BaileysMum
I’ll check out the cancer forum. And got it on the salespeople. I know a lot of people have their issues with salespeople, but even salespeople can have some good things to offer, right? I’m pretty level headed, with a well-tuned hype-meter, and can pretty well discern hype from reality. I appreciate the warning, though!
Just for the record, I am not looking for a silver bullet. I know there’s no such thing. I’m just looking for anything that will help improve my chances of beating this. Every little bit of help can only enhance that, just as long as I keep my antennae up and don’t do anything stupid! J
Thanks again!
BaileysMum
Thanks!
I did find those and have placed my orders. Only thing missing is gum ghatti, and I have a request into pilotlight for that. From what I read that may not be necessary, but I would like to start out with the standard formula if possible and then adjust from there.
I appreciate your help!
BaileysMum
Awesome Doc77!
Thank you and please send my thanks to your daughter and all her friends! The more the better!
BaileysMum