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Re: Hep C Cure? tuffy
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This is a reply to # 48,931the liver does never return to 0.0 stage after such extensive damage. i was 2.2. and now am 1.1, of course i have nash, so that may return.
how are his ALT and AST levels and what is his viral load count?
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the more you read and learn, the simpler your own health will look.
All the mysteries and confusion will disappear.
The more you deal with doctors the more confused you will become. They don't agree even among themselves, and most don't even ackowledge that Liver Flushing can work.
One thing they DO know -and you can hold fast to this, and your own empowering;taking your health into your own hands- is that the liver can be restored, even when there is almost none of it remaining. Yours is probably in quite good shape,and I think your intuition is Grace, telling you that you shouldn't and don't need to go the interferon route.
BTW,
I don't know this forum, so I don't know how much people here follow the standard protocols with regard to hep.C.
Personally, I believe more in healing than sickness. I too have been told I had it.
I won't even test it again, and I've fired my liver specialist, who blithely made me wait three hours for an appointment, with no apparent awareness that the liver stores up anger. She merely asked me when I'd like to start on interferon. Just to put this into perspective, I also have been 'diagnosed' (several years ago, before learning a lot more) with COPD, which I responded to, as if I'd received a death sentence. After a bit, I determined that I would begin to learn to be well, and give up doctors.
Sometime later, I had the COPD tests again, just for interest, and was told, 'no sign of it'. No explanation given, though I asked that the original doctor be contacted
for 'questioning' :-)
Just that it wasn't there, although my (then) doctor told me it doesn't just disappear.
So -- two cents. Or if you will, two gold coins.
- Re: Hep C Cure? tuffy
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This is a reply to # 48,942first of all, sometimes it helps to be a bit patient when waiting for a specialist lol...second of all, they would not touch you with interferon because you have COPD, in which interferon can certainly cause you to have a major issue regarding the lungs. those that have copd will not be accepted as a canidate for treatment. so what you are doing now in regards to herb and the like is trying to keep hcv from doing more extensive damage. there is no cure to date for hcv regarding herbs, and that comes from my doctor who has studied abroad and believes in a few safe alternative motives for those who treatment is not applicable. milk thistle being one.
diet is the other, no red meats, no iron, no sodium and certainly no prescription medications. lots of clear liquids. foods high in good fats, no refined anything of the sort....those with hcv increase their risk for all sorts of issues, even COPD...diabetes 2, kidney issues, heart issues, rashes, ect ect ect.....
the best thing to do is not over stress your body with a bunch of different rituals....if you have a bad reaction, like i've noticed on other posts here on curezone, you wont know what the reaction could be from.
anyway...stick to the milk thistle and eat a diet based for diabetics.
More is not always the best for those with HCV. (too many bi-directional diseases associated with it!)
- Re: Hep C Cure? Elishebeth
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This is a reply to # 48,943When my husband was first diagnosed 7 or 8 years ago, the doctor put him on Interferon. That's all the treatment consisted of back then. I found an article in "Prevention" Magazine about milk thistle and took it to show the doctor. He barely refrained from laughing at me and said if it wasn't expensive, go ahead and throw our money away on it.
He wanted my husband to take part in his study. My husband refused and opted to stop the interferon since his virus wasn't progressing at the time. The doctor said "you are digging your own grave" and we didn't go back. All he wanted was my husband to take part in his study.
My husband's dental work is complete and he was getting ready to go back on the drug, and dreading it. I reminded him of the natural healer I go to and told him he did have other options. So he went last week. The healer likes to try the simplest things first and see if there are positive results. If not, then he'll recommend other things.
So right now, my husband is learning how to breathe better, as his oxygen count was low; he is to take milk thistle and is using Colloidal Silver . We just got a juicer and I am looking for recipes that help the liver.
The healer also said a liver cleanse may be in order too.
So that's where things stand right now. Thanks for asking.
~Elishebeth- Re: Hep C Cure? tuffy
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This is a reply to # 48,947i'd like to clarify something....first of all there is no such thing as hepatitis c being "not so active"....viral load has nothing to do with the extent of possible damages. HCV doesn't just affect the liver...it affects the entire body. I had 27 years of infection and even though my viral load was minimal, the side effects were the most damaging....hcv ruined my skin, by bones (mainly the teeth)...my mental stability....everyone thought either i was depressed or bi-polar...i was neither..the virus passes the blood brain barrier.
As for milk thistle and selenium...that is not a cure, it is just an inti-immflamatory, and with that comes a little prossessing aide.
With the liver and the damage done by hcv, the liver does not proccess like a healthy one does, so take it easy with the herbs, the juices ect.
Many people can live a long life if they watch what they eat and change their lifestyles. But regardless, HCV does not stop. HCV is a virus that changes its genetic makeup each cyclic period, that is why some have harder times getting rid of it through conventional medication.
Also, I was in a study...and proud of it! (I couldnt afford it)
HCV ruined my childhood, severely affected my relationships and most of all, slept almost all of my entire life!
I also tried quite a few things...flushes dont kill a virus, especially ones that change its "code".
Vitamin therapy doesn't touch it, but I can attest to burning urine with vitamin c! (my liver could not handle it at all!) excess literally went down the toilet.
So in moderation okay?
Also, without studies (just as your doing with herbs to see what works and doesnt work....actually it doesnt do much...i don't know one person it has cured to date), but, anyway, with conventional studies, it allows the patient to get medication coverage. Mine paid for all of it and after what i tried and went through for 10 years trying to cure myself, I jumped on it!
Also, my doctor studied abroad about herbs and tinctures....did you know China has the most uncured HCV infected?
If maintenance is what you want to try thats great...but that is all it is. I didnt want hcv ruining anymore of my body.....now that im okay, my skin rashes are gone, no antidepressants ect ect ect....
anyway...good luck to you.- Re: Hep C Cure? Elishebeth
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This is a reply to # 48,948When I say his virus was 'sitting still' or 'not active', I am quoting verbatim what the M.D. told us.
He acted as if we were too stupid to understand anything he was saying - maybe we were; or maybe he was purposely being evasive. I don't know.
The first time my husband was on interferon was about 1999 or so, and he became so disabled with Depression that he couldn't work. This happened twice and finally the insurance company said that they were going to stop covering him if this kept happening, plus he was at risk of losing the job he'd held at a major printing company for 30 years. That was another reason he stopped the interferon the first time.
We're trying to learn as much as possible about what to do for him. The interferon is not something he will never do again, it's simply the last resort.
Thanks for your advice.
~Elishebeth- Re: Hep C Cure? tuffy
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This is a reply to # 48,953i'm sorry to hear that...it does sound like you were not prepared for the treatment...just like these cleanses and what like on the board, you have to do this first, then that second and so forth.
had your husband been on the right medication to control the Depression during his treatment he'd probably be okay on it. i know everyone is different, but no matter if your positive herbs will work, or positive the standard treatment will work, it will get you through....however, no matter how positive certain things are, sometimes the virus is just too damned smart.....i wish you well and i surely wish a cure for your husband.....i just hope he doesnt find out the hard way.....and you will be the first for all us heppers out there that have found a cure using herbs.
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tuffy
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This is a reply to # 48,953Lots of people have committed suicide on interferon their Depression was so bad. Of course, Plough Shearing is not going to talk about those statistics. There was a 31 year old man who took his life in Sonoma County, Calif. last year- a drug rep. told me about it.
- Re: Hep C Cure? tuffy
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This is a reply to # 48,947I forgot to tell you about to extensive studies on herbs regarding liver disease...one is out of California and one New York....both as of to date have not found one herb that works as in cure wise.
Us in the hepper world were certain they'd find something....because milk thistle has some excellent properties, but so far, nothing.
There are however, some phase two trials that seem to be tolerated well.
I dont know about you, but if i had the demon running around in my body causing all kinds of craziness, i'd rather do a good round of treatment and get it all out, than that of a bunch of little ones and have it come right back.
quick fixes arent for me. i learned that with bad doctors...*yes there are good ones! they found my root cause and cured me!
hugs,
tuffy
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This is a reply to # 48,909
i was also well prepared for the worst, but that didnt happen, at least not until the last three months of treatment...had i stayed on my smoking marijuana regume, i'd of never had psychosis...but thats over with and i did finish my treatment course, because nothing prior to the antiviral chemotherapy got rid of it...and I tried everything natural, vitamins, oxygen therapy ect.ect.ect...that was all a waste of money. if i had to do it all over again, i'd of skipped the cleanses and gone straight to the treatment...i havent felt this well since.....forever....(got hcv as either a young kid or before that) anyway.....interferon is a man made substance very similar to the natural kind we possess in our bodies.
chances are, the reation is not interferon, but the antivirals. Amantadine has been used for many many years.....nothing is without side effects however, whether you choose the suggestions on this site, or those of your doctor...one thing is certain...you have a better chance at beating hcv with standard meds, verses herbs and flushes....
just someone who'se been there
good luck no matter what you decide!
tuffy
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we do all tire at the end of the day.
Interferon / Ribavarin is the only combo that will clear the virus. Side effects are considerable, and not all respond to the treatment. I use SST, a herbal formula with a TON of research behind it. It improved liver values and I believe it helps. Surely, I get more energy from using it. I am not advertising it, so search the net and see for yourself. I found it under Hepzone.com.
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Viruses never go away completely. The chicken pox virus that we had as kids can come back when we are older as shingles. It is hiding in the spine.
I knew a lady who took conventional tx and the virus became undetectible and since she also had lupus she took prednisone and it brought back the Hep. C virus. It became chronic again and she eventually had to do the tx again.
We just want the hep. C virus to become undetectable for 6 mos. then tested again at a year, if you are still undetectable after a year they say you are "cured". But you can never give blood or donate organs. There is always a little bit of the virus somewhere in the body.
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