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One of the most dangerous practises of naturopaths is telling diabetics they don't need insulin (esp type I and MODYs that are insulin-dependent). A number of deaths have been documented.- Diabetes can be cured nick5
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MoreThis is a reply to # 422,892Hi, do you mind sharing with me what you know about curing Type 1s? Thanks.
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This is a reply to # 422,896There's plenty of stories in the news - here's just one example:
http://www.valleyskeptic.com/altmed.htm.
Or do you mean the assertion that diabetics not taking their insulin kills them?
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This is a reply to # 422,898i have to scratch my head here... i see stories of medical negligence by area MD's in the news every day, what does that prove? all MD's are bad?
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This is a reply to # 422,899I'm scratching my head johng - do you think it's OK to tell people lies which kill them? You think its OK to tell people to stop taking a hormone vital for their continued existence?
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This is a reply to # 422,900"do you think it's OK to tell people lies which kill them? "
You seem to think it is.- Re: Death is a radical cure. resurrectionist
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This is a reply to # 422,902the question was do you? do you want to answer?
or do you think that diabetics don't need insulin?
how do you deal with the cognitive dissonance?
after that we can address your unsubstantiated allegation that I have told lies that kill people
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This is a reply to # 422,903You see nick5 perhaps you need to learn English. Having a different opinion from someone doesn't mean you (or they)are lying. Do you understand that?
Unless you get these basics we can't really move on.- Re: Death is a radical cure. Chaz
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This is a reply to # 422,905So far everything you've said is a lie mstroll! And any one who does not believe people can get off of the very nasty poison insullin is a liar or a drug salesman!
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This is a reply to # 422,908try to understand this Chaz - just because you say it's a lie doesn't mean that is.
do you understand that concept?
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This is a reply to # 422,903are you saying that its impossible to reverse their diabetes? it can't be done? yes or no.
perhaps you might check this out before you answer:
//www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=73&i=790
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This is a reply to # 422,909this is getting away from my point.
do YOU believe that telling type I diabetics to stop their insulin is responsible and doesn't cause any deaths.
answer that question and we can move on to other questions, hopefully without you calling me a liar if I say something you disagree with.- read it.... johng
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This is a reply to # 422,911//www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=73&i=791
read it. understand it. you simply don't understand what is happening here.
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This is a reply to # 422,912this are not type I diabetics BTW
just answer my question - is it safe to tell all diabetics to stop their insulin?
It is a tenet of mainstream medicine that insulin resistance (the problem with type 2 diabetes) can be reduced esp by losing weight. when my wife developed diabetes, before she was started on oral hypoglycaemics I controlled her blood Sugar by cooking stew every day (this brought her glucose down from 12-14 to 7-8 mmole/l)
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This is a reply to # 422,913well, since i believe in freedom of speech, i think its fine say whatever you want... not sure if you are advocating censorship here or what? are you talking about selling advice? do you assume people cannot make their decisions? is this another case of doctor knows best so only doctors should discuss health issues? please, that's weak.
if i was type 1, i would try whatever means i thought appropriate to get off medication, i don't see any problem there. life is full of risk, we each must decide what we are comfortable with. are you saying that type 1 diabetics can never recover, and are stuck on drugs for life?
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This is a reply to # 422,914insulin is a hormone needed for life. if you can't produce any (type I) you need an exogenous source
do you believe that naturopaths should be advising type I diabetics to stop insulin when it could kill them? that is not an issue of free speech but professional responsibility. you seem to advocate no protection for consumers/patients whatsoever - a return to the days of unbridled quackery essentially- Re: read it.... johng
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This is a reply to # 422,915depends on the individual case. i'm not about to say that its impossible for the pancreas to heal and produce insulin. you may believe that, but its your loss.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 422,916Answer the question - is it safe for naturopaths to tell type I diabetics to stop their insulin?
Do you understand what happens in type I diabetics? Have you ever seen the histopathology of the islet cells? Have you heard of the honeymoon period?
Would you take the risk if you were a type I diabetic? if your relative died after taking such advice how would you feel?
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