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AlkalizingKatie
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Ok, I am trying to get off the senna products. One step at a time. So last night I took triphala and Oxypowder . I did go. I could tell it was the triphala mostly. SO I am making progress to more safe laxatives. The question is:
I am doing another Liver Flush this week. I seem to flush better when I take ES and not just do enemas. Isnt ES just going to have the same effect as senna? I dont want to be working so hard to get my body to move on its own, then back up and do ES another laxative. Or is ES less aggrevating and not so bad for the flushes.
Thanks
Katie
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- Re: herb laxatives garcia
20 y
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This is a reply to # 383,270Taking ES for liver-flushes (once every 2 weeks?) will not get your body dependent on laxatives. Taking senna everyday most definitely will get your body dependent on laxatives.
Take ES for the liver-flushes.
Stop taking senna (and other laxatives) and replace them with natural healthy fibre such as flax and psyllium. I particularly recommend robert gray.
If you take robert gray with warm water and 1 tablespoon olive oil I personally guarantee you will not be constipated. And you will be exercising and strengthening your intestines naturally.
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- Re: herb laxatives AlkalizingKatie
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MoreThis is a reply to # 383,271guarentee? Wow, that is a big risk. I have been taking OO (Olive-Oil) and milled flaxseed. Psyllium binds me so bad, even one shake, that the IF#1 barely works. Im pretty sure Robert Grays stuff has psyllium in it. I will check it out. So far though after 3 years on IF#1 everyday, I have been going off it with triphala and Oxypowder . I do have to defend IF#1 though a little. When I first started it, I was going once a week and had to take 4-5 a day just to have a BM. Now I can take 2 and I am totally fine. In my opinion it has made matters better for me. HOWEVER I think that is ONLY because I have made drastic changes in my diet in the past 3 years as well. I DO want to get off of it though. THe problem is any tiny bit of psyllium just royally screws me up. It took 3 enemas to get one shake out of me. So I will check Robert Grays options out. Maybe he has one with just flax.
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Katie- Re: herb laxatives Pinkcat
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This is a reply to # 383,279Kate,
This is probably a stupid question -- but do you liver flush?
It's made a huge difference for me.
Also, unbelievably (for me, a long-time victim of constipation) the Julia Change tinctures (I got the kit) are amazing. Some of them are to put energy into your intestines. And they do!
Pinkcat- Re: herb laxatives AlkalizingKatie
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This is a reply to # 383,283Not stupid question. I have done a 5 day liver cleanse and 2 clark flushes. All successful. That is probably why the triphala worked without IF#1 finally.
I am afraid of enemas. I do them. But I have read people lose their muscle strength from them too!! AHH!! So I have been just doing a variety of things on different days. I think I can avoid the IF#1 most of the week since triphala will work. And teh days triphala doesnt work I can do a quick enema. But I am sticking with the flaxseed for a while. It doesnt bind me.
Which Julia products do you use? I cant get them all. Too much money.
And, are you the one who recommended lemon rind in my water to me? If so, I have to tell you, I got Dr. Schultz super food this week. It has lemon and orange rind in it. I TOTALLY LOVE IT!! I have been taking garden of life green food for a few months and it is ok. But the super food is really awesome! I guess lemon rind is good for me.
Kaite- Re: herb laxatives garcia
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This is a reply to # 383,289It was me who recommended lemon rind! But make sure its organic and not waxed! The rind contains the essential oil of lemon (amongst other things) which the inside of the fruit doesn't contain.
Robert Gray contains psyllium, doesn't come in flax.
Psyllium used to bind me too, until I learned how to take it. Also you need to up your fibre in your diet, as you pointed out.
Basically the more fibre you eat the stronger your muscles and the easier it is to eat fibre - its a virtuous circle.
Conversely if you start of constipated with a low fibre diet, even fibre may constipate you.
The way to get around this is to build up gradually (e.g. start off on 1 shake a day). Also take olive oil with the psyllium shake as it helps it move along and not get stuck. And plenty of water.
Stay away from laxatives. Also enemas may not be the best thing as they will stop the lower part of the colon getting a proper work-out. Although once in a while is fine.
- Re: herb laxatives AlkalizingKatie
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- Fibre is key garcia
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This is a reply to # 383,311You can carry on taking the lax if you want. You can also carry on doing enemas if you want. But the only way to restore your intestinal muscles to how they should be is by taking fibre. Fibre through supplements and through your natural diet.
- Re: Fibre is key-Garcia I AM!! AlkalizingKatie
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This is a reply to # 383,314I am doing more fiber! I just didnt know if I take a shake and dont poop, what to do. Looks like enemas or ES are the answer until my body catches on and I have done enough liver flushes.
Katie
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- Re: herb laxatives Pinkcat
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This is a reply to # 383,289Hi, no, wasn't me with the lemon rind. But I'll have to try it!
The Chang tinctures I get were her "kit": Curcuma, Chinese Bitters, Gold Coin Grass and Coptis. They are generous-sized bottles. This is the stuff you need for a liver flush, although some people just use the god coin grass. However, some of the other herbs in the other bottles help build up your bile and, as noted before, energize your intestines.
They're a little bitter, some less so than others. Not bad all in all -- especially for what they do!
Pinkcat- Re: Pinkcat AlkalizingKatie
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This is a reply to # 383,308I will check it out. The lemon rind I take is in the super foods by Dr. Schultz. He is known for using the highest quality of herbs. It is $20 for a month supply if you are intersted. But I think you take some other green foods right?
Also, how often did you do enemas at first? Everyday you didnt have a BM?- Kate Pinkcat
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This is a reply to # 383,312Hi Kate,
I have so much to learn still! I thought you just scrap off some lemon rind as for a recipe. And I think this is what Garcia means.
Re green foods: I've been taking chlorella. And whatever greens go into my juicer (which really needs a new blade. I have it on order).
Re enemas: There was a time I was doing them every day (a recent time, in fact). Since the Liver Flushes (2) I've been going better. And I think the Chinese herbals have helped also (as I wrote).
I was doing more enemas currently, because I'm taking lots of fibre and doing the flushing.
But in the last two days I've had very good morning bms -- curezone text book ones! (I've been taking the Chinese herbs for about two weeks now.) So I had no need for an enema.
Also, the last one I did (Friday)was a quick plain water one (one bag) just to get the drier stuff out without popping my capillaries! So, for the past two days my digestion's been working the way God intended. A victory! :-)
Pinkcat
- Re: PInkcat AlkalizingKatie
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This is a reply to # 383,320That is awesome! I think people get the impression I just want to take the herbs and forget about it. Of course you know my dilemna. I never go if I dont do an enema or herbs. So I think I am going to take this week to start and do no herbs and just do the enemas if I dont go. I will need to get Julias stuff soon too. When is your next flush?
Katie
YOu know it is funny you and shelly go by ...cat. My last job they called me katiecat. I dont know why!!!
- Re: PInkcat AlkalizingKatie
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- Kate Pinkcat
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- Re: herb laxatives garcia
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- Re: herb laxatives AlkalizingKatie
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- Re: herb laxatives Pinkcat
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- Re: herb laxatives AlkalizingKatie
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- Re: herb laxatives UserX
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This is a reply to # 383,270Epson salts is a saline laxative and works by an entirely different mechanism than herbal laxatives. Herbal laxatives are GI irritants and cause the body to purge much like when you have food poisoning. They stimulate peristalsis in an aggressive way which can result in weakening of the bowel muscle. Epson salts...and other saline solutions...are osmotic laxatives that draw water into the bowel in order to dilute the salt concentration and cause the bowel to evacuate its contents because of the quantity of fluid and fecal matter. The only problem with using ES is dehydration and electrolyte imbalance...you are losing your own body fluid when using a saline laxative. As long as you diligently replace fluids and electrolytes...there is no problem with using ES.
- Re: herb laxatives AlkalizingKatie
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This is a reply to # 383,290Wow, I am getting great input from all of you. Thanks soooo much. So is 3 enemas a week too many? And I will do the ES if I wake up and cant go on work days. Im not crazy about that, but if it is better than senna, I will do it. I just know I have to go at least once a day minimum.
I am going to wait on the psyllium. Flax is pleny for me right now.
Katie
Oh, and I just did an enema and it was a bit different this time. I felt really cold and weak. I got alot out. Then I went to bed for 20 minutes. Then a bunch more came out. Very stinky. Not normal for me. I assume this is good?
- Re: herb laxatives AlkalizingKatie
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