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Some younger family members both have finally succumbed to buying/using Cell Phone s as a means to be connected in their professions.
I am really concerned at the way no one of a certain age seems to care anymore about the effects of them; some sort of blase pall has fallen over people, it seems. I was told one salesperson laughed at the question of which phones would do the least damage-- laughed at the mention that they might cause cancer...
In talking to family last night about not using them more than they have to, I could feel their frustration -- they say almost no one they know has land lines these days--not so much by choice but because it's not affordable and practical, what with moving about for work and study. They do not, at least, like so many people I see hereabouts, walk around outside with a cellphone pasted to the ear. And, they keep them mostly turned off.
But I am aghast that no one who's young ever seems to be 'alone' anymore! remember when a person out by themselves was by themselves? It's like the C.P. is some sort of desperate 'lifeline'-- hard NOT to wonder at what messages are able to be implanted
in the minds of this huge group of people,who are so willing to be continually hooked in.
But this sort of stuff is very depressing to hear...
So, Is there any way to make these things less harmful? I hate to be seeming to bring bad tidings always, these days, to those I love about health and the effects of various kinds of poisonings, without also offering -equally, at least! the light at the end of THAT tunnel...Reading the other day that one five-minute call is the same as having you head beside a microwave oven for eight hours really disturbed me. Not sure if that's true, but I can imagine it might be.
I would love to hear about what positive and not-too costly things I can offer my loved ones so that they do not feel resigned to accepting something they know is unhealthy. It seems to me that must be one of *the* most demoralizing things
one can do to one's spirit...
Anyone know how to turn this around?
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This is a reply to # 360,838I am right with you in the awareness that Cell Phone s are really destructive, and yet, I am the one made fun of because I refuse to have a Cell Phone . Any and all efforts at sharing my reasons fall on deaf ears. I am just barely getting through on Aspartame awareness and imagine that because of the pressures of 100% accessibility that I will not win any battles much less the war on Cell Phone usage.
I remind myself of the old adage, you can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink. I print out or send info email and that is as good as it gets for me. Otherwise, my challenge is to be okay with my own choices and allow others theirs. It is not easy by any degree and it is no comfort being "right" either.
Time will prove that we are the products of our life choices, and in the interim, I can only hope intent that it not harm will help ameliorate the damage. Cell towers are also disruptive and are interfering with nature to the extent that ultimately we will get a wake-up call similar to the one we are now witnessing with the weather.
I remind myself, I signed up to be here...ggg. Hey, didnt you too?
peace & blessings,
Zoe
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This is a reply to # 360,844Hi Zoe,
Yup. All's a bigger picture than I can know.
The hard part is the feeling of being the bearer of bad news, and sort of alienating the ones I love, by my passion about these sorts of things...
In other words, it hurts to see others feeling somewhat hurt and judged, and on the defensive, when the intent is simply to love...
That sounds very moonish, doesn't it?
maybe the heavy weather here today, with a *very* pregnant-with-rain-sky,
has something to do with it all.- Re: hard when it's your nearest and ... Zoebess
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This is a reply to # 360,847Not at all...you and I share the same boat. It is especially hard when loved ones and friends say, "the government would not allow something that would hurt you...", and of course our kids...aaargh....my daughter bought gum with Aspartame in it and I did not say anything but she could "feel" my disappointment and she
protested, "its only got a little Aspartame in it...". I softly replied, "it only takes a little rat poison to kill a rat...".
Cell Phone s, I feel are another HUGE example of technology being tested in the field, on US! Of course, like you say, its a bigger picture than we can know. I read daily of how we have been duped all of our lives by agendas and tactics that do not basically honor life and consider it precious, but instead, serve to consolidate power and most do not want to believe that the government would be glad to see many of us out of the picture, but there is no concerted effort by our government to preserve life or enable others to do so....
There is something to the "butterfly effect" and the theory that affecting one thing can ripple out and effect us all. Studies show that cell towers are seriously effecting honey bees....people think the world can go on without things like honey bees but I for one think and pray about such things since I happen to think they are among the most important of creatures...in the cycle of life.
peace and blessings,
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This is a reply to # 360,852About the bees Zoe, I'm in one of those places -it is just after my son's birthday, somewhat near my own- when all such things are heart-breaking. I adore bees, birds...and don't see how we can live without them, while I spoke to someone the other day who said that without birds it would be "boring". That's evidence to me of such dissociation: as if everything is there for us to take. And take. There is a squirrel who comes here; a very scraggly looking creature that I feel quite badly for, as she looks to have almost scratched herself raw. In the past weeks though, I see her looking better and better, not nearly so much a prisoner of ill-health, and that small thing makes me feel better about the world in general.
she gets the things that I am eating.
avocado, nuts, fruit...
I hope all is well with you,
C.
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- Earpiece molly bloom
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This is a reply to # 360,837I'm going to be very unpopular when I say what I'm about to say, but here goes.
I used to manage all the cell towers, for the entire west coast, for a very large Cell Phone company. Although I'm not a Radio Frequency Engineer, I know quite a bit about this. I used to visit many states, and have talked a great deal in front of the public about cell towers. This was before the Cell Phone scare came about, and instead everyone was afraid of the towers.
Please, don't believe everything you are hearing from so called experts on the subject. Take it with a grain of salt, some of them are just dramatic.
I have witnessed the power of Cell Phone s, from 9-11 to the Seattle Earthquake. They are your lifeline, should you be sitting alone, on the side of the road, in a desolate area. They are there if you are in trouble. They are the only things that work if regular phone lines go down.
Some will disagree with me, but I think this is one of those conspiracy, fear-mongering things. Without getting too technical, a cell phone is no different than sitting next to a radio. I have no desire to debate this issue at all.
NOW, that being said, the best way to make everyone happy is to get ear pieces for the phones. Convince the kids how cool they'll look walking around talking to themselves. I for one, will never give up my cell phone, but I do normally use an ear piece.
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This is a reply to # 360,853I have a Cell Phone , but I keep it only for emergencies. It has come in handy a few times in this rural area, but it is not my main form of communication. I never use it at home, or just to visit. What concerns me is the people who seem to constantly have a Cell Phone glued to their ear. They can be in stores, their cars, everyplace they go they're talking. Now they are marketing Cell Phone s for young children.
Although I am a little leery of the cell towers, and am thankful there are none near me, I am more concerned about what years and years of daily cell phone usage will do to the next generation. There are lots of theories about their dangers, but even if there is a significant risk, will people be willing to give up their phones? - Please explain MrCooties
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This is a reply to # 360,853>>>>>>>>>>>"Without getting too technical, a Cell Phone is no different than sitting next to a radio."<<<<<<<<<<
Come on now, this is just false. A radio does not emit radiation beyond what an electronic circuit normally radiates - a Cell Phone is dsigned to emit constant radiation powerful enough to reach a satellite, the radiation source being only inches from the brain.
You were a Cell Phone company rep and your job was to persuade the public that cell phones were safe. Regardless, I am very interested in hearing you explain logically why cell phones are safe, not just that they are useful to call 911 or that they are feared by Conspiracy nuts. And get technical if you must - this is an important issue for people here and dropping an expert opinion such as yours deserves a logical explanation instead of a cut-and-run statement.
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This is a reply to # 360,858Actually, my job was to manage cell towers, not convince people Cell Phone s were safe. Indeed, I managed 6,000 cell sites. The only time I had to visit people were when they were afraid of cell towers, and then, I took an expert.
I am not an RF Engineer, and I refuse to get into a debate about this topic. I only know what I've been told, and that was by experts.
You make your own decision about this topic. There are plenty of web sites out there that discuss how Cell Phone s, and cell towers work.
By the way, as far as I know, Cell Phone s are not operated by satellite, yet.
I absolutely do not want to discuss anymore of this issue, and I would like you to respect that. Sorry.- Re: Please explain MrCooties
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This is a reply to # 360,860I'll respect your wish to not debate, but at least tell us why you are so adamantly against talking about this. Have you had bad experiences debating the issue? Do you see yourself as someone who may have helped create a health hazard for millions of people? (Don't take that the wrong way)
I am honestly curious, not trying to push the issue with you.- Re: Please explain molly bloom
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This is a reply to # 360,862Three years of hatred thrown at Cell Phone companies made me quite ill. My job was huge! That is why I've found curezone.
I absolutely did not work for an evil empire, no matter what others may say. I would suggest you educate yourself, to the greatest extent, before you get on the anti- Cell Phone train.
There really is a lot of drama out there, and I will tell you, I've heard it all. Including a little old lady in San Diego, 5 miles from a cell tower, that had fashioned aluminum hats for herself, and her 5 dogs, 13 cats, three bunnies and a parakeet, who obviously was pretty upset about his new chapeau. I stood in front of a group of screaming parents at an elementary school, who, during the entire 2 hour meeting, had Cell Phone s going off constantly in the meeting (I counted 62 rings tones, at least), all this while my expert said that their children were getting more exposure from the moon, than the nearby cell tower. I had a great deal of respect for my experts, they all had great integrity, and were highly educated. They were there, not to pull the wool over anyone's eyes, they were trying to soothe fear by using easy to understand scientific data.
And to me, just like the avian flu, vaccinations, our homeland security terror alert system, killer bees....you are going to find fear everywhere you turn, but is it really there, or is it just the big old boogie man? But, now I'm getting off the subject.
See, I'm just tired, that's all. So, end of discussion, OK?
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This is a reply to # 360,865I am sure we differ in some of our views on this topic, but I can absolutely relate to being burned out on negative (as well as positive) subjects to the point that it becomes unhealthy in itself. Thanks for the reply and honesty.
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This is a reply to # 360,858There is really no debating this issue. The only people putting up a defence in saying that this tech is safe is the Corporations that own it and the government agencies who represent them. Scientists with no axes to grind other than the truth, have come out in opposition against this technology.
What we see here in the defence of this tech is similar to tobacco science.
Using a Cell Phone is like strapping a microwave transmitter to your head.
Keep in mind that cordless phones are just as bad if not worse.
There are ways to reduce the risk. The prefered method is to have an "airphone" type ear piece, keeping the actually transmitter a safer distance from sensitve brain tissue.
The following is a very important interview regarding the issue of Cell Phone safety.
Dr. Carlo is a medical researcher and epidemiologist who headed a $28.5 million research program funded by the Cell Phone industry to prove the safety of wireless technology, but his research proved EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE!
Confirmed by major studies worldwide, Dr. Carlo's work convinced the insurance industry to CANCEL PRODUCT LIAIBILITY COVERAGE for EMF radiation injury cases from cell phones. Why? A potential epidemic reaching 500,000 new tumor cases EVERY YEAR by 2010. Teenagers and children especially vulnerable.
Listen Here- That is the same show I liked to up ... #68812 18 y 2,623
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This is a reply to # 360,853I think if you take a look at/listen to? the interview up top I linked to, you will find it interesting. The man speaking was working on very stringent rsearch, all clearly, openly documented, independantly reviewed, all the best of the best of that sort of protocol-- the reason for all the stringency?
He was working FOR the Cell Phone interests, and they wanted to be absolutely certain the results could not be discounted. But what he found was NOT what they hoped to find. That began a series of events that left him threatened on every level:livelihood, health; his life...
Nevertheless, the research stands!
There is simply no question anymore that they are dangerous.
That said, he does not support blithely getting rid of them all. There are billions worlwide now...it would be impossible. He recommends ear-pieces, and says any cellphone sold without one now is a "defective" cellphone. There is a follow-up interview in those same archives, where supposdely two weeks after this interview is another that goes more into what steps you can take to protect yourself...
as far as a lifeline:
If I were going to the top of a mountain, or to Death Valley, I'd probably take one. The trouble is, no one just uses one for only emergencies....as for the towers; just one more piece in the puzzle of siruption to the anergy fields.
Funny they don't seem to have worked in Katrina, to provide what anyone might have expected in the way of 'help'...
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This is a reply to # 360,853With no intention that you should take this statement personally >>this is the sort of 'convincing' that leads to the kind of mass stupification we have now, that is only growing...much like a tsunami.
I know you're just trying to be realistic, and clever, but how 'realistic' is this scenario? (It's just ordinary stuff around here) Three young kids walking down the street, three friends out together--each one on their own cellphone. What are they talking about? Just nothing. A sort of running commentary of nothing. Not relating to each other-- and not relating to whoever is on the other end of the line. And in no *need*, except one to have more and more, like an animal that's been experimented on with sugar. And these lines (like a grid) are criss-crossed over nearly this whole planet now. Lots of noise, AND the perfect system to get rid of millions, while maintaining a continual economy.( the users get younger and younger)
And even if you don't participate, you participate. I call that surreal.
I think the Cell Phone issue, as big as it is: when you hear the truth about it, and the billions being made, is still more a symbol of a much bigger reality (of the cold kind) much like a box within a box within a box. We cannot see the box outside us, if we are in one that is within it...
still, as I said to Zoe, there is a much bigger picture though, thank God, that is greater than even the pervasive willful ignorance of good, in the service of the dollar.
*A headpiece is certainly better than none, so thanks for mentioning it.
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This is a reply to # 360,837>>>>>>>>>>>"Without getting too technical, a Cell Phone is no different than sitting next to a radio."<<<<<<<<<<
Come on now, this is just false. A radio does not emit radiation beyond what an electronic circuit normally radiates - a Cell Phone is dsigned to emit constant radiation powerful enough to reach a satellite, the radiation source being only inches from the brain.
You were a Cell Phone company rep and your job was to persuade the public that cell phones were safe. Regardless, I am very interested in hearing you explain logically why cell phones are safe, not just that they are useful to call 911 or that they are feared by Conspiracy nuts. And get technical if you must - this is an important issue for people here and dropping an expert opinion such as yours deserves a logical explanation instead of a cut-and-run statement.
- BTW, I'm listening to a radio show r... #68812
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