Tamoxifen, BigPharma, and my thought... 
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First read this:
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/96/103729.htm
What a news! Take tamoxifen and live longer! Isn't that nice. let's take a closer look. Another site http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00003678?order=6
says, that trial is sponsored by
Cancer Research Campaign Clinical Trials Centre.
This Centre is funded by a very nice company: The Royal Marsden NHS Foundation Trust
Cancer Research UK
Breakthrough Breast Cancer
The Leukaemia Research Fund
The Garfield Weston Foundation
The Monument Trust
Kay Kendall Fund
The Wellcome Trust
The US National Cancer Institute
The Bob Champion Cancer Trust
The Higher Education Funding Council for England
The Medical Research Council
for me, National Cancer Institute is enough. But nevermind, let's go go further. Cancer Research Campaign Clinical Trials Centre sponsored other reasearches too. Oh yes, along with its buddy, NCI and some other players. What players? Hmm, let's see: Breast International Group, EORTC Breast Cancer Cooperative Group, National Cancer Institute of Canada, International Breast Cancer Study Group. Don't believe that? take a look at clinicaltrials.gov .
I like the name Breast International Group, BIG in short. Yep, it is really BIG, especially its sponsors: Novartis, Aventis, Eli Lilly, BRISTOL-MYERS SQUIBB, and others. Hey, where is Merc? Despite huge loss Meck not being sponsor, I like the company of these sponsors. One bike owner must be very happy. By the way, International Breast Cancer Study Group is a part of BIG.
I know, it's boring- bear with me. EORTC Breast Cancer Cooperative Group is also a part of BIG. Oh, dear. BIG is really BIG, look at http://www.breastinternationalgroup.org/default.htm (accept, go to about BIG, then members). Okay, BIG is sponsored by BigPharma, so all othe smaller fishes are also sponsored by BigPharma, right? Hmm, very simple, huh? I bet it's not surprise for many of you, but it's intereting to see the web of our beloved BigPharma.
I guess, BIG is not the only player in the cancer research field, isn't it? What are those high rollers? let's see.
*European Organisation for Research and Treatment of Cancer (EORTC) Ok, EORTC president is Professor Alexander M.M Eggermont, MD, PhD is Head of the Department of Surgical Oncology
at the Erasmus University Medical Center, Rotterdam, The Netherlands and is also in the medical advisory committee of William S. Graham Foundation for Melanoma Research, Inc and this foundation is heavily funded by pharmaceutical companies like Chiron, Genta, Antigenics and so on. So, the head of this large cancer organisation has a history of being friends with BigPharma and Co. How can you be a head of a reasearch center of a university that is heavily oriented towards surgery, chemo, drugs?
*International Breast Cancer Study Group (IBCSG). And this big fish is also a part of BIG! it gets more and more interesting (at least for me, anyway).
*ABCSG (Austrian Breast and Colorectal Cancer Study Group). Also a part of BIG network.
*The Eastern Cooperative Oncology Group (ECOG) is one of the largest clinical cancer research organizations in the United States is also a part of BIG.
*The same is with The Southwest Oncology Group (SWOG), one of the largest of the National Cancer Institute-supported cancer clinical trials cooperative groups in the United States.
*The Cancer and Leukemia Group B is yet another fish in the BIG fish.
*oops, I forgot, European Organisation for Research and Treatment of Cancer (EORTC) is not different- just another prise in the BIG collection.
Where should I continue? Oh, that study. If you put search of tamoxifen in clinicaltrials.gov you'll see primarily three main types of sponsors: National Cancer Instutute, Pharmaceutical companies, and cancer research organisations.
But they have one thing in common and that is their common name: BigPharma.
National Cancer Institute as we know is a corrupt cancer research organisation that is supported by very "reliable" names like CDC, ACS (american cancer society), U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and others.
No wonder about pharmaceutical companies.
And all research companies, institutes so on are just all different names of the same beast. BIG, or Breast International Group is just one of the fattest and smelliest animals in the collection. BigPharma is like a chameleon- a master of disguise.
So. So much about the tamoxifen study. You decide.
- Re: Cancer Research charity fraud Karlin
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This is a reply to # 274,002Thats right. All these groups are in on the deception, even the non-governmental and non-industry groups.
Then there is the charities for cancer and other illnesses.
It really adds to the disgustingness when we see that army of volunteers out pounding the damn pavement to collect for "charity" to do cancer research, or other diseases. They think the money they collect, and the money others give, will actually go to helping cancer victims, etc.
These volunteers have faith in this bogus research into pills for cancer, when over the 40 years of modern research the BigPharma have done so little other than to fatten their own wallets.
For eg., When you talk to the ATHSMA foundations, and read their material, they refuse to link air pollution to asthma!!!! Really, ttry to find where they admit this obvious cause. They may admit it can be a trigger for attacks, but even that is skewed by their insistence that ozone levels are the culprit.
And they refuse to admit , or don't know, that smoking marijuana opens up the dilated bronchial tubes and relieves asthma attacks. Marijuana was used for that years ago, before prohibition.
There are 100s of such denials , in all illness advocacy groups, for natural cures and that the causes of modern epidemics are largely our doing, the result of pollution, toxins, bad food, and bacterial pathogens. And that there is a natural cure to al of them that is much more effective than simply controlling symptoms like pharma pills do.
Advocacy groups that lean to natural cures are never heard from, they do not get off the ground. But if you embrace the pharma-pigs, you get funding.
K
- Re: Cancer Research charity fraud MD... #19236
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This is a reply to # 274,004thats because theres no money in making people healthy, but there's big bucks in medically torturing people and keeping crippled captives sick and drug addicted.
mds kill people to make money
mds poison people to make money
mds make people sick to make money
mds are licensed to kill..sad fact is..no one needs a license to kill people...the mds got rooked paying for their worthless murder licenses.
ww2 was funded by ig barbinubin aka bayer asparin company
medical whores must be sent back to the hell that spawned them
MD=FRAUD
MD=WMD BIOTERRORIST LOONIE
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- Re: Tamoxifen, BigPharma, and my tho... Columbia
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This is a reply to # 274,002This doesn't surprise me. I'm in England and was subjected to Tamoxifen treatment for the best part of two years, until I put a stop to it, due to the horrible side effects.
I'm sure we in England are just as beholden to the big drug companies pushing their product. One question I'd like to know the answer to:
If Breast Cancer is now affecting younger and younger women, with some reported cases as young as SIXTEEN years old; then why is there no choice of medication for us? There are however, shedloads of different tablets for post-menopausal women. I wasn't menopausal when I got cancer, and I'm still not now, but this stuff messes your hormones up so badly, it's unreal. I'm still trying to get rid of the weight Tamoxifen and the Mireena coil combined to slam on me in a matter of weeks. No wonder it's so hard to put it all behind us for so long. There are constant reminders. I never had a weight problem before this.
It's not just cancer though. The big drug companies have the medical profession in the palm of their hand, and dictate what treatment people will get, by producing fuzzy and misleading "scientific" reports as to the effectiveness of the particular drug they are pushing this week.
The question is, how can they be stopped, and CAN they? - pedofile biochemical poisoners =mds #19236
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This is a reply to # 274,002michael crighton, famous author, once wrote."THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO GO TO MD'S ARE LONELY WOMEN WITH NO ONE TO TALK TO"
that said, I ask you, WHO are these retirdnluvinit IDIOPATHIC humans that patronize md's????
clinical idiopathy is diagnosed when a group or individual is too IDIOPATHIC to recognize individual or group dangers that nonidiopathic people easily recognize.
I can see why prison inmates reject medical experimentation, or why captive pows might fight menegela style medical torture, I can see why sane people bring attys with them IF they had to go to an ER room due to accident or collision etc.
What I do not understand are all these idiopathic men and women who give a quack md any more credibility then they would give a drunk knife weilding pervert. mds are freaks quacks and frauds,they cure nothing, they are toxic biochemical warfare delivery agents that kill poison and knife people for fun, ejaculatory fun, and profit. their brains are wired wrong, mds like the sex action of cutting breasts etc off, one md wears a prophylactic every time he does surgury. another penile urologists gets the same s/m pervert kick torturing men.
WHY DOES ANYONE EVEN SPEAK TO MDS other then to tell the quacks to go burn in biochemical crackpot pharmacists biochemical mass murderers hell. SOME FREAKS LIKE TO SET FIRES...OTHER FREAKS LIKE TO PLAY WITH KNIVES =MDS, STILL OTHER FREAKS LIKE TO TORTURE AND POISON PEOPLE=MDS. PEDOFILE FREAK MDS=YUCK.
the md degree is worthless and means the person is a fraud.
we care con men- yuck- Re: true story of pleasure from my p... Jawg
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This is a reply to # 274,008"The big drug companies have the medical profession in the palm of their hand, and dictate what treatment people will get, by producing fuzzy and misleading "scientific" reports."
and
"mds are freaks quacks and frauds,they cure nothing, they are toxic biochemical warfare delivery agents that kill poison and knife people for fun, ejaculatory fun, and profit. their brains are wired wrong, mds like the sex action of cutting breasts etc off, one md wears a prophylactic every time he does surgury. another penile urologists gets the same s/m pervert kick torturing men."
J - Now THATS the kind of responses I have been hoping for!!!
Thanks 19236 and other.
True story :
When I saw that last quote about penile tortures, and the vicarious thrills the medical people get from torturing us, I had that experience once:
I had complained to a doc - about 15 years ago when I was much less aware of their evil ways - about my bladder. He sent me for a test to see 'if it emptied okay'... a stupid useless test actually.
The Nurse Wratched who did the test RAMMED a HUGE catheter up my penus, I was in absolute agony for 20 mins.while she worked it in, "stop, stop" I whispered as I tried to be brave for her.
I bet she creamed her jeans 10 times. It was pleasurable for her. I was actually gasping it was so bad. She was panting!!
The test reveiled nothing, but the doc used that to say "it empties okay, I see no problems, you are fine" . bunch of frikkin bstrds.
I cured it with herbs later on!
But there are so many bad pills out there, and peole sti;l keep taking them
I cant find any that have no problems. I think they are all meant to bring us back to the doc for more serious problems. I am sure of that.
more pill problems - Crestor - link below
Also, See Dr.Sidney Wolfe's report on ABC TV today.
Crestor: - "The FDA should never have approved this drug in the face of such serious and potentially lethal adverse effects," Wolfe said. "The only way the agency can show it has concern for patient safety, and not drug industry wishes, is to pull Crestor from market immediately."
"Since 1996, Public Citizen has either warned consumers not to take or petitioned for the ban of six dangerous drugs that were later taken off the market, including Redux, Propulsid and Baycol."
-----------Pay for a report?:
"Worst Pills/Best Pills"
Dr. Sidney Wolfe has published a book which many of you may find interesting. The title is "Worst Pills, Best Pills II".
It tells of 29 drugs that may actually cause you to have Parkinsons Disease, 65 which could cause you to go crazy, 86 listed as causing depression, 105 as causing hallucinations, 46 that could cause you to fall and sustain injuries, 22 that cause auto accidents, 119 that cause sexual problems, 88 that cause constipation, and 18 that keep you from sleeping well.
Some of the drugs listed in the book include Prozac, Mevacor, Cipro, Pepcid, and BuSpar. Dr. Wolfe also discusses options and alternatives to these drugs that you may find useful.
The 722 page book sells for $12.00 US funds and includes shipping. Write to: Public Citizen 2000 P. Street N.W., Department AM, Washington, DC 20036
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3838915.stm
http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=1657
http://www.citizen.org/publications/release.cfm?ID=7305
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This is a reply to # 274,002
I wonder how many out there have a similar story to tell. Here's mine:
My mother was diagnosed with localized, unresectable pancreatic cancer in October, 2003. I enrolled her in a clinical trial sponsered by The Eastern Cooperative Oncology Group for a randomized Phase III study of gemcitabine manufactured by Eli Lily)in combination with radiation verses gemcitabine alone.
Her cancer was staged at 7.3 centimeters and had wrapped around her pulmonary and aortic arteries. Not good. But she met all the qualifying criterion - so the group allowed her in the study.
She was 79 years old.
Meanwhile - I emptied her cupboards of all processed food; bought pure water, took away all dairy products, animal fat,sugar, and gave her two ProSures (loaded with Omega-3) each day. I also juiced 5-7 fruits every night.
The radiation and gemcitabine combo nearly killed her, and she ended up in the hospital for ten days one month after beginning her treatment, where she lost 12 pounds. She miraculously rallied - and resumed treatments.
Her cancer was then staged before moving to Phase II of the study - and it showed no growth (or shrinkage) - and it had not metastasized.
I told the clnical trial nurse that I belived my mother's diet had at least as much to do with her cancer's containment as her drug therapies - but she looked at me as if I was nuts.
Phase II was also grueling, and my mother ended up being kicked out of the trial because her platelet count was too low - too often.
She was involved in this trial - beginning to end - for approximately 5 1/2 months. We now had to find another hospital and oncologist. In the meantime - I continued her diet, ProSure, etc., and she began to gain weight. She was now two months without treatments of any kind.
Her new oncologist and treatment center wanted her cancer staged once again - before she was put on lower doses of gemcitabine.
Lo and behold - her cancer had shrunk: It was now 5.5 centimeters. I eagerly called the clinical trial nurse (even though she was no longer involved in the clinical trial - I thought this information very important to published results).
She was not the least bit interested. In fact, she seemed almost upset.
Now - here's the big part. After only three treatments at the new treatment center - my mother again ended up in the hospital. She clearly could not tolerate gemcitabine. And again - she lost weight.
Now her only treatment was her 'diet' - which, though a little more relaxed than at first, still included fresh juice, ProSure, little or no processed food, and only small amounts of dairy.
We had her cancer staged the first of December, 2004. It was now 1.3 centimeters and had not metasticized. However, she had a duadenal ulcer due to radiation; two fused discs due to falling (from dizziness caused by medications), and the lining of her stomach was mush (again, radiation.)
I called the clinical trial nurse. Surely this information is of value. Especially since with only a handful of chemotherapy treatments in 8 months - her cancer shrunk to the size of a lima bean. No deal. This information was no longer of interest to her.
Long story short (too late, huh?) - It is March, 2005. My mother is back to her original weight and eats like a truck driver. However, she is now in the hospital for back surgery. Her ulcer has caused her to bloat up like Buddah. And her cancer? I doubt it's there.
Do you think the Eastern Oncology Group - or Eli Lily would value this information in light of the fact there is an extremely poor prognosis for pancreatic cancer patients? (median amount of time a patient being treated with gemcitabine has their cancer contained is 3.7 mos; avg. survival with treatment is 7.1 mos., during which time patients lose weight rapidly).
This is not the only case, I'm sure. There has to be many, many former clinical trial members who could not tolerate the treatments - yet who have since rallied because of alternative therapies.
I'm a nationally published writer. I would love to hear from anyone and everyone who can help me compile a series of similar stories.
There is always a way back to wellness. Don't let anyone tell you differently.
Cynthia
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