I'm sure this question has been answered many times but I'm very confused!
I'm currently using MesoSilver, however if I were to continue it's going to start getting very expensive, which brings me on to the colloidal silver generator topic.
I'm looking to buy a generator, ideally something that's capable of creating a 0.65nm 20ppm solution (if that's possible) TRUE colloidal silver, not ionic. A generator that could do both would be a bonus for both topical and oral administration. The SilverGen SG6 and Silver Puppy seem to keep popping up here, any thoughts on those or any other advice is welcome!
One last thing to add, I am in the UK so shipping may be an issue.
The best way to an answer would be to contact the different CS gen, makers.
This is for the silver puppy. which I have.
This gentleman is very nice, and knowledgable. He prefers email as he has a hearing problem.
His site also has FAQ, and article links.
http://silverpuppy.com/contact
RE: I don't think you can make silver solution without having both ionic and colloidal particles.
Science would agree. Since silver (metal) is known to be bioactive, this accounts for the ionic exchange taking place between silver compounds and subjective organisms. ie, Silver along with other metals will kill fungus on contact AND in proximity using such mechanisms.
RE: So the percentage of each in solution would depend on the purity of the water and the electric current provided
With respect to low voltage DC processing(electrolysis), the ratio's (ionic/elemental) can be manipulated by way of redux. ie, by reducing the ionic component toward the nanoparticle state, or... alternatively, by taking measures to preserve the ionic component.
RE: Ionic silver is looking for something to grab onto to get or give it's extra electron. Colloidal is just complete silver atom with no charge.
Correct. Since silver ions are unstable and seek to stabilize by way of chemical interactions.
RE: Logic says that you would want more ionic silver because it is actively trying to give up an electron or grab an electron.
In principal yes. Whereas in practice, we must account for the chemical reactions along the way (transport and delivery)
RE: If we make the assumption (big leap) that free radicals generated by bacteria and fungus are throwing out electrons to invade and destroy our health or removing electrons from our tissue then the ionic silver grabs that material and removes it from the body. It then turns into Colloidal Silver . In order for colloidal silver to exist in solution it has to have received a free electron from something in the water.
(*) Given the volatility of silver ions (in this case) it's unlikely that it could ever reach its destination (in-vivo) without undergoing chemical transformations along the way. Which incidentally leads us to the infamous ionic vs colloidal silver controversy. That said, it's also worth noting that most LVDC (low voltage DC) silver solutions that are being made with home generators today, will produce silver compounds** that would classify as ionic by disposition due in part to the by-products created along with the electrolysis process.
That said, with respect to the second portion of your comment (free electrons in water) the likely answer will depend on the process methods used to create the colloidal solution (nano/particulate etc.). Of which, may or may not require the admission of chemical agents or reactions. ie, an HVAC (High Voltage AC) electrolysis method could potentially produce elemental microparticles (pure silver metal) capable of remaining in suspension in solution(colloidal) under Brownian motion. Which essentially allows for the particles in questions to collide with the surrounding molecules(dimensionally) causing them to remain in suspension in much the same way we would keep a balloon in the air by repeatedly poking it. The effect takes place as these particles are inferior(in mass) to its surrounding molecules. A condition which will remain until one of the factors in balance is lost . - resulting in destabilization or change
RE: I can't imagine what the colloidal silver does. I assume it actually attracts free ions from other metals like lead and cadmium.
I'm not sure I follow, though at first glance, I'd answer that the answer would likely depend on the context of the question.
RE: If anyone has found an answer that describes the actual reaction, please post. All the generator sites just throw out statement without facts.
if this question pertains to how silver can treat certain conditions, then the short answer is that silver is proven to be toxic to a range of microorganisms. ie, in the case of bacteria, the effect is a two-fold in that silver ions alter the membrane of the bacteria making it permeable (vulnerable) as well as causing it to overproduce oxygen compounds. Which in turn, results in the bacteria destroying itself. A phenomenon that not only causes silver to be an effective antibacterial agent, but also complimentary to antibiotics, in that it can eliminate the effects of resistance. Which oddly enough, could have been used to avert the disaster of antibiotic resistance that we are now facing today.
RE: I understand silver plating but there are reagents involved in that process.
One common scenario when people seek to rationalize colloidal silver and its application, is where they often approach the topic in black and white terms. Or in this case, in ionic and metallic forms. When in reality, there are a host of chemical reactions and exceptions to contend with. ie, The admission of the chemical changes that take place at the anode and cathode under electrolysis. The silver compounds and their characteristics both prior to, and following ingestion. and so-on, and so-forth. All of which, will contend with the potential of our assessment toward matters.
- Hope this helps
RE: Silver lungs does not divulge what the chemical is they sell you to use.
It's sugar see: Carbon Hydrogen Oxygen complex
RE: They are not the same thing. You want electrically charged silver which is ionic. The more ionic the better.
That may depend on the application, ie, if the intent is to reach the gut with as much resistance as possible then a predominant elemental(particulate) would be advantageous. Similarely, the same could be said of topical applications combined with carriers such as DMSO etc.
RE: Colloidal refers to the size of the silver particles and not the state of being charged. (This looks like a smoke screen)
While this is true, I'd add that this would also imply particles. To which which I'd add, as ions are soluble, would not qualify as colloidal, therfore, the solution in this case becomes one of broader interpretation.
RE: Your goal is to get the purest water silver solution possible. This chemical additive sounds dangerous.
I agree. And the good news here is where it's possible to push silver solutions on either side of the scale in terms of the ionic and particulate(elemental), without the admission of chemicals or additives.