This also alone proves Silver Content as well as non-Ionic composition
in the most simple way.
The video shows you how super saturated the Colloidal Silver is with
atomic particles.
http://www.gold2live.com/LAB-Tested-Colloids.html
Is there anybody out there that can't do the same with their 6 to 10 PPM Ionic silver?
You wouldn't have to spend so much time doing damage control if you would quit posting lies, and bullsh*t on your web site.
most people don't buy a product from somebody that spends his time knocking other products. They just really want to buy based on how good your product is.
And BTW my CS has no chemicals in it, and CS is made from Distilled water Silver rods, and electricity. The scare tactic that you scam artists bring up about the blue man don't work anymore. Nobody with any sense doesn't add salt [Blue man], or anything else. Yet you keep telling the lie that individual CS generators need to put chemicals in the process.
You're not the first salesman slicka$$ to use all those lies.
I had a good laugh when all of a sudden out of the blue "Brendanderson" shows up on her 1st post ever with a testimonial.
I have a feeling this is she off your web site:
Every body goes down to the beach to put a good word in for Atomic CS with their bikini on. Are you serious????
The bottom line is If you can find some dummies to believe your schtik and is willing to pay your prices I could care less, but don't tell me I'm posting disinformation. Everybody on this forum knows who is doing that.
That is the problem with you guys, the FDA reported that many producers of Colloidal Silver had no silver at all.
Another lie? Prove it. Post a link. The FDA report I have seen written in 1999 was against all products with silver, yours included.
You insist on throwing as much crap as your little buffoon mind can think up just to see how much sticks.
While you say you do not use chemicals, how do we know that YOU are producing silver particles at all?
According to the information that I gave you in a previous post there is no particles produced using distilled water, silver, and electricity. Aside from that, i don't give a rat'$ a$$ what you think you know.
Do you have a Certificate of Analysis from a Reputable Well Known Particle Testing Facility? That state your Silver Content and what is in your solutions? I highly doubt it.
There is something seriously wrong with you. Are you drinking to much of your own products? For the last time, what good would it do me to throw money away getting somebody else to tell me how good my CS is when I already know how good it is. I use it, and it does everything I have asked it to do.
Look, I'm tired of this thread, and your lies. The only thing I've done from the beginning was to shoot down your lies, and I thought when I didn't respond to your last Bullsh*t that you would dummy up and realize that you got the last word in, and end your idiocies.
If I wanted to trash your product I would contact the who ever it is that keeps products from telling lies about their own , and competitors products. Next I would go to the consumer report products review line to do the same. Then I would to get everybody that has a CS generator that you have bad mouthed to have them go to all the social media outlets to tell everybody in the world the lies that you tell. [That are documented]
So If you have any intelligence at all you will call it a day. Hopefully scrub your web page of all the lies, and try and do business with some ethics.
If you persist your bullsh*t on this forum I will respond accordingly.
Measuring your solutions using a TDS meter really put things into perspective. Though your use of a TDS meter in such cases really doesn't help your credibility as a researcher or your capacity to properly measure and interpret total silver content in solutions. To which I'd add, are very basic fundamentals in chemistry.
And so, a good start for you and your product, would be to learn and get the science right before appealing to new science in public forums. Which only works to discredit you and you product.
Which is why most people like you claim that the TDS Meter is not a viable means of testing PPM in Colloidal Silver …..
YET You USE THEM to substantiate your claims of having 6, 10 and even 20 PPM. And Again none of you produce Certificates of Analysis from REPUTABLE well know Particle testing facilities, just outlandish unsubstantiated claims.
Obviously you're to dense to understand the obvious. Making your own CS, which is very popular with many, and getting more popular with many more everyday. We do it for the following reasons. It works, [Did that sink in]It works. We can give it to friends, and family who wouldn't ask for more if it didn't work. It also keeps us from being poisoned by big Pharma's drugs.
We don't sell it, so there isn't any reason to get it analyzed/certified. If what we make [without chemicals] works, why buy it from somebody else.
Oh yea, the TDS meter is used for other things besides testing CS. Example, I make my own distilled water with my distiller that has a carbon after filter that removes 9 additional contaminents that plain distilling can leave in the water. When you buy distilled water at the store you don't know if the company that processes the water uses an after filter, and if they do, how often they change it. I have tested store bought and it tests between 3, and 5 ppm straight out of the bottle. Maybe it has to do with the plastic, or maybe how clean the bottle was to begin with.
The point is, your red herring crap about analysis/certification is just that crap.
RE: We know that TDS meter readings are not accurate for MOST Nanoparticle and Ionic solutions, and the reason for that is because the CHEMICALS do not allow accurate Readings, the chemicals ALSO get detected with the TDS Meter.
Strawman: As pointed out numerous times, Ionic solutions made with LVDC should not have chemicals
That said, accurate meters readings are made possible with propper calibration.
RE: YET You USE THEM to substantiate your claims of having 6, 10 and even 20 PPM.
While there's no doubt that many people fall prey to such things, I'd add that I've never measured my own solutions with a TDS meter personally. Though I can say without a doubt that my solutions range between 19 and 20ppm effectively. Which are very accurate measurements.
RE: Conclusion: TDS Meters can be ACCURATE if NO CHEMICALS ARE PRESENT, there are no chemicals in the atomic particles solutions that GoldenGevity makes.
Strawman
RE: In atomic particle Colloidal Silver the TDS Meter measures clusters H20 molecules that have atomic particles attached to each one of them, so in all reality in a 16 Ounce 3000 PPM bottle measuring 3000 H20 molecules and each molecule may have 5 or 10, 20 atoms (maybe even more) attached to it, then the particle count could go much higher. More expensive Atomic Particle Research needs to be done to confirm this, when the time comes I am sure it will be done.
So you believe.
Though I'm confident that once we test your solution, it will show otherwise.
PS. when can you send me a sample?
RE: 1. Atomic Particles defy all accepted standards that apply to nanoparticles.
- This is an example of the Strawmen(recall) - Straw(men), meaning many, of which your product claims are built-upon.
That said, I'd first begin by pointing out that very few people actually make nanoparticle silver at home. And so arguements from nanoparticles end-up being nothing more than a distraction in cases such as these.
Beyond this, and in response to your statement, I'd add that while atoms may differ from elemental particles or nanoparticles in their behavior and properties, it remains that these are not impervious to the force exerted between them(see: van der Wall). Which means that they remain subject to such behaviors as clustering and aggragation, and of course, the cascade of events that follow such changes. To which I'd add, all contend with the dissolution of materials in some form or another. Such as dissolving 3000ppm of silver in solution for example. - Which can acheived, though not without the use of chemicals, and most certainly not without affecting the color of the solution.
RE 3. The Atomic Particle Colloidal Silver is clear as water because atoms do not reflect light, which also means that you have the most perfectly natural (if not organic) Colloidal Silveravailable anywhere on the market.
Beleive it or not, Silver ions carry the very same properties.
RE: 4. Atomic Particle Colloidal Silver can be frozen and will still maintain the PPM when thawed out, not so with the pathetic, impotent low PPM products you produce (that are not certified by a well-known independent testing laboratory BTW) because the chemical will coagulate and drop to the bottom of the container.
As will an ionic silver solution
RE: 5. Atomic Particle Colloidal Silver can be diluted - while they make 500 to 18000 PPM, all of their products can be diluted (this my friend is why you and your cohorts are trying to discredit the company even with ridicule because your Kit Selling Business will one day be obsolete).
Since you've already demonstgrated that you are not qualified to measure the total silver content in solution, this particular point becomes rather self refuting.
That said, I'd also add that any silver solution whether; protein, ionic or particulate, can be fractioned or diluted without issue.
RE: 6. The products can be mixed with your favorite Iced Tea or Juice.
As with any silver solution. Though this would have no bearing on it's effectiveness which you have yet to address.
RE: 7. You can leave them in the sun; they will not spoil
Now were getting somewhere... though I'd first ask what is intended by spoiling and how you'd deduct this to be the case.
RE: 8. You can even cook with some of them without causing the food to spoil or spoil the colloidal silver.
As opposed to Colloidal Silver Solutions and spoiling food?
Though again, I'd question the science(testing) used to determine whether a colloidal silver solution has been spoiled by cooking, heating, exposure to UV etc.
RE: 9. Because they are organic, you can apply them directly to your skin, eye or ear and get instant relief from earaches, eye infections, mosquito bites. Atomic Particles will kill off fight Malaria, Chikungunya, Dog Heartworm, Dengue, Yellow Fever, Eastern Equine Encephalitis, St. Louis Encephalitis, LaCrosse Encephalitis, Western Equine Encephalitis, West Nile Virus, this cannot be said of many low PPM products that are chemically made.
All of this has been done with other CS solutions, and doesn't work to advance or validate your product claims - sorry
RE: Nanoparticle and Ionic Products have too many limitations, and you can read them on the labels of their products, not to mention the fact that nanoparticles can be hundreds of thousands of times larger than a single atom.
I'm thinking your product would be of the exact same limitations, though I'm certainly looking forward to testing it.
RE: That is OLD Science, new methods CAN and DO make atomic particles without the use of chemicals.
Strawman: There is no need for chemicals in the production of LVDC silver solutions for home brewers. That said, I see no old and new science here at all, as all LVDC colloidal silver generators generate silver atoms in the disassociation phase of electrolysis. To which your rebuttal rests on what appears like simple confusion due to a lack of understanding on matters.
RE: Ask any physicist and they will tell you that when you add chemicals and an electric charge to a metal such as silver you will produce nanoparticles and ions (which are completely unstable).
That would be a Chemist, who ideally, with a disciplin in electrochemistry.
Wheras the argument for chemicals and an electric charge remains a strawman at this stage.
RE: Silver IONS would be almost be perfect if it were not for the chemicals that they use to make them...
Same repeating strawman
RE: Sure it will but the chemicals will drop to the bottom of the container along with the silver ions, it will be spoiled if frozen.
That is false and specific to nanoparticles in suspension, and not ions. Which again, demonstrates that you do not fully understand the chemical composition or terms applicable to the various forms of silver solutions. That said, ionic silver solutions can be frozen and unthawed over and over again without change. However, the fact that you don't know this tells me that you do not have a basic understanding of what a silver ion actually is at this stage. (atom + water molecule)
RE: I think you missed other posts I made about measuring Atomic Particles, so this link will answer your claim, can clarify to most readers about measuring with TDS Meters:
Having seen the post, I found no indication that you have an understanding of how TDS meters work or how to use one to measure the total silver content in solution. And so, I'm going to assume that you either lack the knowledge or training required to do so. Which in turn, would explain the discrepancy in your products claims. That said, I found your statement to reserve the right to measurements to that of your own equipment to be rather disconcerting as it appears as though you've taken the initiative to avoid external testing.
RE: TDS Meters Can BE ACCURATE ONLY IF NO CHEMICALS ARE PRESENT.
Strawman: In the right hands, TDS/Ec meters can indeed be highly accurate, though you have yet to demonstrate this in your product measurements and references to date.
RE: NOT True, again the chemicals will create other byproducts that could lead to further poisoning and other side effects along with the ones that are already reported.
Strawman: All silver compounds (regardless of their form) atomic or otherwise are reactive. Otherwise, they would never work. Which again, shows your limited understanding toward matters.
RE: Most nanoparticle products state on their labels, “No need to Refrigerate”, “Do not expose to sunlight”, “do not expose to high heat conditions” in fact most of their products cannot be shipped to areas where snow and ice occur, because the particles along with the chemical coagulate and no longer stay suspended in the solution.
Strawman: I'm not defending nanoparticle solutions. I'm comparing your product to Ionic Solutions because that's what it likely is.
RE: The products: Spoil So products are shipped covered with aluminum foil a telltale Sign that chemicals are present.
Strawman: This would have nothing to do with Homemade CS
RE: Try cooking your Ionic silver and see what happens…. Try adding it to your milk, or tea, do it for a few months, I can almost bet something else will manifest.
To be clear, I don't sell or manufacture silver solutions in any way/shape or form. Though part of the process I use to make CS at home is done at 103c. And so on, it's unlikely that you're going to convince me of anything beyond that of my own experiences on matters. That said, I've performed considerable research adding CS to food and drinks over the years without issue. Though the fallacy with your argument comes with the expectation that you'd have the capacity to evaluate compositions past the subjection of said food and drinks. Of which you clearly haven't thought through. - Which makes this an open and shut case.
RE: Remember the chemicals??? They can cause unwanted side effects, some producers are using embalming fluid to make their CS, others Hydrochloric Acid which causes hair loss, and yet other Hydrogen Peroxide, which when taken internally causes faster graying of the hair.
Just look at the You Tube of most sellers of their kits…. They are either bald, or gray-haired.
Strawman. Though I'd prefer to focus on serious matters at this stage.
RE: Nanoparticle and Ionic Products have too many limitations, and you can read them on the labels of their products, not to mention the fact that nanoparticles can be hundreds of thousands of times larger than a single atom. I'm thinking your product would be of the exact same limitations, though
Contrary to what you may believe, it appears as though all silver products are subject to limitations in some form or another. To which I'd add, I'm confident this applies to your own solutions as well. In spite of your beliefs toward matters.
Having said all that, when can you send me a sample for testing?
I'd like to put it through it's paces against a host of other CS solutions that I've acquired for testing. (kill rate, stability, resistance etc), as I look forward to reporting my findings without prejudice.