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Hey everyone, I'm seeking help in regards to taking iodoral. During a visit to a doctor he recommended me iodoral. I started the first month with iodoral alone taking 2 capsules as he prescribed. During that first month I had the worst detox symptoms including hair loss which was already coming out before the use of iodoral, hives covering my entire body, tiredness, and the swelling of my neck lymph node glands. I found cure zone and immediately around th 28th day of usage and bought all Co supplements that day. Which were selenium , celtic Sea Salt , magnesium*calm brand* and 300 Niacin pill. I also increased my water intake to a gallon a day and things started to turn back around. Around the 6th day of doing the regimen I upped my dosage to four iodoral pills, 500 mcg of selenium , 350 mg of magnesium and 2 niacin pills equaling 600mg and increased vitamin c to 10,000 mcg a day. I immediately noticed the niacin flush which I am fine with however today being day 64 My top lip is swollen incredibly. My top lip is 4x bigger than what it usually is and my hair has being going through a phase where it grows then falls out more around the top of my head. The hives have stopped I believe with the help of salt loading but I am really concerned and seeking advise about my top lip . Also my throat throughout the process has been sore but has stopped over time but my tonsils are fairly large now sometimes making it hard to breath it seems. Also before starting the Co supplements I had suicidal thoughts and other dark thoughts which I found out was due to the bromide detoxing from my system since the cosupplements I haven't had those reoccurring thoughts. I'm looking for any recommendations I was going to up my dosage of iodoral even more but now I'm wondering would that be smart as well? As for benefits I have increase energy, my tongue has started to change from the coated white it was two months ago to a healthy looking shade of pink, I use to have very bad gut issues but I haven't as of recently everything is being digested fine, my skin has cleared up overall, nails grow faster , increase recovery times from workout.. I actually don't feel the muscle fatigue nor pain as I once did, my sexuality stamina has spiked and I'm more in a upbeat mode than I was before starting this regimen. I'm a 23 year old male,178 pounds, 6'1. My diet is pretty clean I don't eat much processed food at all. I'm just looking for advice in this all, thanks in advance
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 2,267,236you have a lot going on there.
first off, that low dosage can and probably will produce a detox symptoms that are exaggerated. what exaggerates them is not having enough iodine, believe it or not. since the 50mg iodoral are not available (local pharmacy said the canadians bought them all???), i assume youre talking the 12.5mg caplets. this means youre up to 50mg and i tell everyone 100mg is a minimum to start.
you are right about the salt helping the hives. hives are a histimine reaction and that is a sign of dehydration and the cure for that is salt. dont ever shy away from salt. you need it to get water into the cells.
you should not take the flushing kind of niacin. niacinamide is the type to use.
your selenium should be selenomethionine only.
if you are having water retention with the increase in salt and water then potassium is a problem, and it probably always has been for everyone. get one of those little blue shakers of nusalt salt substitute in the store. not for long term use because of the contaminants in it but just to experiment. i dont like the taste. just put a quarter teaspoon in a little water and slam it like a shot of rotgut whiskey and chase it with something, some juice or milk. do this during a meal or it can make the stomach ache. youll know if its doing you any good after a couple times of that. you can do that with every meal. if you want to continue then get the pure stuff at bulksupplements.com.
that should help.
- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage antd
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This is a reply to # 2,267,330Definitely will follow your advice with cranking up the iodine. How much selenium should I be taking since I'm adding more iodine? I'll change niacin tomorrow as well. what's your view on atp cofactors versus the niacinamide?
- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage KC77
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This is a reply to # 2,267,346Well, and detoxing that bromine can make you really sick. I didn't know about the Iodine at first when I started doing the Redmond's Real Salt or Celtic Sea Salt . I do either one. Then the water, and once it starts flushing out the bromine, then it can make you have detox symptoms, which some are strange. Then after a month on water/salt, I found out about the iodine. That's when I read Lynne Farrow's excellent book, so I started on my Iodine along with doing the salt/water. I just do mine differently than in the book. I follow the Water Cure s dot-org place.
Here's a place that lists some symptoms. I'm sure there are probably more.
http://jeffreydachmd.com/2014/03/iodine-bromine-detox-unrefined-salt-jeffrey-dach-md/
- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 2,267,346200mcg a day should be fine but you can take up to 800mcg of selenomethionine daily and its safe. let your body tell you.
o dont know about the other question. i dont know a lot about vitamins. what i do kow tells me they dont come out of a pill, so it take what i need to and leave the rest. the B vits are a must.
- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage KC77
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage antd
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This is a reply to # 2,267,330And do you recommend taking both selenium and Iodine at the same time or splitting them a couple hours ?
- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage trapper/kcmo
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage Stephy79
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This is a reply to # 2,267,350i know of some ppl here not taking it at the same time. Explaination was that selenium is an antioxidant and Iodine is an oxidant. I take my Iodine on an empty stomach and about 1 hour later i take some if my other supplements.
- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage antd
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This is a reply to # 2,268,233This actually sounds best for me. My stomach hasn't had any issues so far but I think that would be best.
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage trapper/kcmo
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage Newport
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 2,267,642a very important point.
i still find bloating without the potassium. it really tightens things up.- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage Ferventer
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This is a reply to # 2,268,002Thats because the salt to potassium ratio is critical.
Aside from people using the wrong form of salt they still get too little potassium for the salt amount consumed.- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 2,268,060i believe the low salt diet works across the board due to the gross potassium deficiency.
- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage illys / elisah
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This is a reply to # 2,268,132Didje ever try potassium bicarbonate Trapper, or just potassium chloride?
- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage Ferventer
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 2,268,138lay out the difference for me, will ya? practical stand point, not chemistry.
- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage illys / elisah
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This is a reply to # 2,268,260I'm just wondering if there is a difference between the two in how well they're absorbed. Ferventerer, do you know a difference between the two in how they effect you?
- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage Ferventer
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This is a reply to # 2,268,269Bicarb seems to be very readily absorbed. I noticed a very rapid and pronounced improvement in my endurance and greatly reduced muscle stiffness post workout.
I also dont get any stomach upset with 700-800mg or so doses, even on an empty stomach. Where as the various other tablet forms I have used often caused quite a bit of stomach upset even at just a couple hundred mg.
- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage Ferventer
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage illys / elisah
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage Ferventer
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage illys / elisah
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage trapper/kcmo
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage Newport
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This is a reply to # 2,268,002Then you aren't using IMAM or enough of it.
You can't get K into cells without salt. We are fixing the Human battery this isn't nutrition.. nothing works without the battery...
- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage Ferventer
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage trapper/kcmo
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage antd
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This is a reply to # 2,267,330Thanks so much. The 100 mg has been a major help.I'm still expierencing detox symptoms but that are more managable now that i've increased my dosage.
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage illys / elisah
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This is a reply to # 2,267,236ATP cofactors is the reccommended supplement for use with iodine
Healthy fats are a very good idea while you're going through the detox phase, the thyroid uses them very much while making it's hormones and detoxifying the blood.
I suggest switching from the Calm brand Magnesium to a supplement containing Magnesium Taurate or l-Threonate when the bottle is empty. The taurine/threonate amino acids strengthen the body!
While you are detoxing, the body needs to redbuild many tissues. Healthy fats are the some of the best tools for the job!
Oil-pulling is one of the ways to get these healthy fats in, together with an increase of fruits and veg in your daily diet. Cold-pressed extra virgin olive oil, thistle oil, and coconut-oil are some of my very favorites. :)
The Iodine cofactors really help with making stomach acid. (excellent article on the importance of the stomach's ability to make hydrochloric acid, with explanation of the nutrients needed for it: http://www.tennantinstitute.us/conditions/stomach-acid.html )
Have you got zinc and B1 in your supplemental regimen? They may be beneficial.
In the long run you may save a great deal of money by investigating the liquid forms of iodine, which are primarily Lugols' and super-saturated-potassium-iodide (AKA SSKI ). Trapper offers bottles of SSKI often, and there are several others here who provide good products. Iodorol is a tablet designed off of the formulation of Lugol's iodine, which is 2 parts potassium Iodide to 1 part unbound iodine.- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage antd
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This is a reply to # 2,267,393Thanks for all the info, I have a few questions. Okay so I have Taurine @ 500mg that i'm taking once a day. I ran out of calm today and had purchased Magnesium Citrate 400mg. Should I keep this Magnesium, is the absorbtion of good quality and if so will this form counter any of the other things im taking. Took 100mg of idoral today, I feel great!
Supplement list:
Iodine Iodoral 100mg *8 a.m*
chlorella 6 mini tabs not sure of the measurement *8 a.m.*
selenium as selenomethionine *8 a.m.*
celtci Sea Salt *salt loading all day*
Gallon of water a day minimum through out the day
Magnesium calm about 3 pm 350mg changed to Magnesium Citrate 400mg today
Taurine 500 mg 3pm
Solaray Vitamin c 1000mg, 10,000mg through out the day as ac sorbic acid with bioflavonoid *suprising no stomach issue*
Niacin , switching to atp cofactors and taking 8a.m. and once more at 3p.m.
Melatonin before bed
Magnesium Taurate?? and drop Taurine?
I'll look into the SSKI ,Thanks for the info btw. I know, I have to find out what works best for my body. I'll try oil pulling as well and no im not taking any zinc nor B1 at the moment, but after reading the article im going to have to get some. Any other recommendations ?
- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage illys / elisah
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This is a reply to # 2,267,634Mg-Taurate is a bit of a double-boon' cuz it transports the amino acid right where it's needed, and can't be pulled apart by unhealthy digestive flora.
Mg Citrate creates probs for folk with candiasis in the gut, the citrate molecule can potentially feed candida colonies.
Your reactions to the Iodine indicates you have had some success breaking down infections (of that sort), so proceed as you normally do on Mg Citrate (waste not want not!).
Make sure to rotate the nights you do melatonin to avoid building an artificial tolerance (1 every 3-4 nights is ideal). Meat in the morning is an ideal way to up your naturally-produced seretonin levels.
I find zink-methionine (l-optizink) to be the gentlest on me. Paired with copper chelate or copper secabate is going to be very important because you're taking plenty of C (C speeds the body's use of copper, manganese and chromium).
I'm enjoying the benefits of higher b1 intake myself, been a good reaction to 100mg after each meal. I was showing deficiency signs before I started it.
Chlorella provides a lot of minerals, you may be covering yourself decently from that angle.
If you switch to Mg Taurate, remember that the absorbtion of Mg Taurate/L-threonate is porportionally higher than on Mg oxide and Mg citrate.
Cheers on the oil puling, I hope you'll find it a pleasant experience! I don't feel quite right if I don't start the day with a good pull right after I wake up. It gets the gunk outta yer mouth better than listerine. x3
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- Re: Swelling from Iodine usage antd
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This is a reply to # 2,267,651I find zink-methionine (l-optizink) to be the gentlest on me. Paired with copper chelate or copper secabate is going to be very important because you're taking plenty of C (C speeds the body's use of copper, manganese and chromium).
I'm enjoying the benefits of higher b1 intake myself, been a good reaction to 100mg after each meal. I was showing deficiency signs before I started it.
Is there a certain ration one should take zink and copper together or does it not matter due to the high intake of vitamin c?
right now im taking 50 mg of zink-methionine
and 3mg of copper
The same for manganese and chromium?
Also I read something about parkisonism due to a long trial of taking chlorella.. Have you ever heard about this ? It read that it was due to the manganese content, would supplement of manganese cause more harm?- Zinc, copper, manganese, chromium illys / elisah
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Is there a certain ration one should take zink and copper together or does it not matter due to the high intake of vitamin c?
Can only answer based on the data I know! Usually the answers folk give here is, 'try it out, see how you react'. My notes on VitC of what to watch for when using high doses-
- Do not take at the same time as iron, chromium and manganese, because it oxidizes those elements in the gut
- at over 500mg doses, you need more copper intake (C increases the absorbtion and use of copper) and it can leech calcium and magnesium (due to toxins being excreted from the kidneys, and calcium and magnesium are the body's buffers when it is handling toxins)
Boron supplementation is the way to prevent magnesium loss, and vitamin K(2) (MK4 and MK7) the way to prevent calcium loss
right now im taking 50 mg of zink-methionine
and 3mg of copperAnd how's your reaction to that ratio? Do you get different results when changing the porportions?
Notes on their effects in the body may help you choose well. :)
http://mueller_ranges.tripod.com/links/compendium/copperandzinc.html
Not my collection of data, but someone who's gone and done their homework on it..Read especially the 'shortform on zinc', it explains when too much zinc can be neurotoxic (such as in alzheimer's patients)
The same for manganese and chromium?
Questions on manganese are complex, notes can help you figure what you need to suit your goals http://mueller_ranges.tripod.com/links/compendium/myminerals.html#manganese
Chromium is very good, neuroprotectant and helps magnesium get into the cells
http://mueller_ranges.tripod.com/links/compendium/myminerals.html#chromium
Also I read something about parkisonism due to a long trial of taking chlorella.. Have you ever heard about this ? It read that it was due to the manganese content, would supplement of manganese cause more harm?Under controlled doses, no. Best to read up on the effects and balances between each mineral and adjust your dosages accordingly- especially make a list of goals for what you want out of your supplementing, go from there?
The efficacy of chlorella as a supplement fo parkinsonanisim would be problematic,the absorbtion of minerals from the supplement would be an important factor- how strong is their stomach acid, what is the vitamin D levels (major factor of how well minerals are absorbed), what other medications, treatments, diet, etc, are they on?
Copper deficiency may be a factor in parkinsonianisim-
'manganese displaces copper in sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (sCJD).“ We found a decrease of up to 50% of copper and an increase in manganese of approximately 10-fold in the brain tissues from sCJD subjects ”'
Copper intake needs to be increased when taking manganese.
A high zinc intake may indicate needing more copper.. Something about copper allowing neural impulses to travel faster, think copper electrical wiringTweak and see is all I can say on the matter :-)
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