Taking Hormones during a pure Water ... 
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I am about to start a pure water fast. i have a three week window where I can relax and devote my time to this.I understand to avoid taking vitamins and supplements. My question is, would it be advisable to stop taking Testosterone and human growth hormone. The testosterone is compounded biologically.
I take these for their antiaging effects and help with my obesity issues. Would it be advisable to discontinue these while on the water only fast.- Re: Taking Hormones during a pure Wa... DesertLili
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This is a reply to # 2,231,983At least taper down, unfortunately there is no info- or consensus on how much and whether to stop them completely; ... as in a non-hormone-taker glands would also decrease their production of hormones on WF.
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This is a reply to # 2,232,002Thanks,
It is my understanding that a pure Water Fast would be accompanied by total rest. Mentally and Physically; I have noticed on these forums that many still go to work? Are there two different schools of thought, or is there one correct way to do this.- Re: Resting during a pure Water Fast DesertLili
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This is a reply to # 2,232,707The simple truth, I guess, is that few people can take time off, at least not for the length their bodies need to fast. Best is rest. Moving the lymph during fast is helpful - i.e. getting out of bed, stretching. Some have fasted so many times, that their bodies can handle heavier muscle work, but it does not necessarily mean they are getting the whole healing benefit.
- Re: Resting during a pure Water Fast holisticdmd
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This is a reply to # 2,232,711Just because one can handle fasting and physical and/or mental (Computer) activity does not mena there is not a cost. Absolutely you will not get the same results as if you follow the program 100%. I personally do not relax 100%, I am satisfied with my results and I do rest quite a bit. This fast I am on now has gotten much easier and I have more energy. Still I am finding it easier to rest because I am really motivated over the healing result I have acheived with 90 days of fasting over the past 26 months
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This is a reply to # 2,232,707Resting is the best way and is what is recommended. In my life i cannot always do things the perfect way. There can be negative and / or counterproductive consequences of not resting. The more you break the rules the less the results. I usually break the rules a little bit. I still have gotten results satisfactory to my goals. I have fasted 90 days in the past 26 months. I am only successful if I leave my primary residence and my work. i have never been successful to fast even 3 days around my home in NJ. On the other hand I have a 28 day and a 15 days and a 10 day and a 7 da. i am presently on a 10-14 day fast which will end when i hit my goal weight.
- Re: Resting during a pure Water Fast scorpioeyes
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This is a reply to # 2,385,810I was wondering the same question about my regimen; I take testosterone cypiponate and HCG and am currently on day 2 water only. My plan is to continue as usual with my weekly dose; I assume it's best to keep a normal, regulated, hormone level during a fast... I have absolutely nothing to back up that assumption but it just seems like I wouldn't want to put any additional stress on my body during a fast(and depending on how long you've been on hormone therapy that could really cause some problems.
And your question about do people work or just rest during a fast I personally have never been able to rest much during a fast..however, anytime I feel slightly dizzy or tired or anything I'm going to sit/lay down.- Re: Resting during a pure Water Fast holisticdmd
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This is a reply to # 2,385,843I was taking both those on my first 28 day fast with an expert. She said do what you want to do. She likely would have stopped, I took them and to this day still take my teststerone during a fast, however no other supplements do I take. However am I correct that you take the testosterone for anti-aging reasons? IF SO, YOUR NORMAL LEVEL WOULD BE not taking it. Actually, I just realized i was taking HGH not hcg, however if you do have a lower than normal level , I would keep taking it myself.
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This is a reply to # 2,385,944So you take testosterone and HGH without using HCG?
HCG keeps your testicles from shutting down which is extremely important if you think there's ever a chance of stopping your hormone therapy, want to have children, or want to prevent testicle shrinkage. I am 35 and don't have children yet but there's a sliver of a chance I still might have a family so I take the HCG so that I don't become infertile.
I started hormone therapy a few years ago when, for seemingly no reason, I gained a bunch of weight, had zero energy, and suffered all sorts of injuries; my body just seemed "off" and after a lot of tests I finally had my testosterone levels checked and I was at 182 and for my age I should be around 600-800(the average 60 year old has 554)...so yeah my body is not producing testosterone anymore for some reason and that's why I take it.
- Re: Resting during a pure Water Fast holisticdmd
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This is a reply to # 2,385,996Interesting Stuff.
I take the testosterone as part of an antiaging regime for about 8 years now. Different than your reasons,
I got some great results from the hgh initially, however stopped it a few years later due to mostly cost and saw no more results after the initial weight loss.
Still taking the testosterone at 70.
No shrinkage according to grandma (LOL)
Had a vasectomey about 20 years ago
I cut out a lot of my supplements and hormones slowly over the past 5 years, I find that if I follow a raw vegan diet and natural hygiene protocol all the things those supplements were doing for me I either get naturally or do not get whether i take the supplement or not.
I believe supplements are like medications, if you eliminate the cause of the problem you no longer need to mask or treat the symptoms. Most people I see ( i am a holistic practitioner, would rather eat SAD and take pills.NOT me. all I take at 70 is testosterone and once I took 180 mg of insulin a day.
The testosterone keeps me around 900. My urologist is nervous, however my past 3 antiaging Dr's like the idea, as do I.
I test my psa 2 to 3 times a year
The benefit from the Testosterone that I see is worth the cost and the effort.
thanks for the info
- Re: Resting during a pure Water Fast scorpioeyes
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This is a reply to # 2,386,005Geez, I just wrote a long response and hit a button on my phone and lost it all..ugh
In short; sounds like you don't need HCG anyways.
Also, over last 17 years I've fasted annually for a few days and every 2-3 years I go 7-21 days and have never really had a problem but I am on day 4 or 6, I don't know, of a Water Fast and I've had scary heartbeat irregularities and extreme pain in my quadriceps and I also woke up 2 nights ago because I had crapped by bed and had diarrhea all over my sheets and it was horrible and I'm so confused why all this is happening this time around. I prepared properly so I am at a loss for these symptoms and I'm wondering if it's the testosterone..hmm- Re: Resting during a pure Water Fast holisticdmd
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This is a reply to # 2,386,007The heartbeat thing is not abnormal. One reason for total rest.
I always get that type smelly, bile like water diahera (Always). the fact that you lost it in bed has nothing to do with that. You have to realize a little gas may be that diahera.
Muscle pain is not unusual as well. You could take a magnesium/ca supplement if you want. Or just stop the fast.
All those symptoms will go away.
You need to have someone to consult with to rule out other issues, howe er from my experience and my wife's experience, one or the other of us get similar experiences every time we fast.
DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH body fat on you to fast?
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This is a reply to # 2,385,996i stopped HGH after taking it for several years. i was no longer feeling the initial benefits i had experienced in the begining and it was quite costly. it has been over 5 years and I am still doing great. have not notices any shrinkage and performance problems. I am 72 and had a vasectomy 25-30 years ago, so not certain about you specific concerns, however HGH can have negative side effects as i am certain you are aware.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,385,843I usually take my testosterone whil fasting. purists would say not to take it. it certaintly will not hurt you to stop taking it duing your short fasts. i stop taking it for a week before my blood test by the prescribing doctor so we can get good numbers. No harm to stop it or a week or two,
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