Candida Never Goes Away -- Reasons 
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Enemas are useful but they have their limits against candida if you are using nutritional supplements from the other end as well.
Also, from my own experience with the autistic group(all have candida/parasite issues) that I am helping at the moment, who take lots of supplements (MMS, Hulda Clark PP, MMS enemas), many of them suddenly hit a brick wall and make no further progress using these protocols. The explanation for this problem is a fairly long one, so bear with me.
In order to understand the above problems, first it should be realized that the adult human intestines is about 30 ft long with an absorption area the size of a tennis court.
This means that the intestines is quite long with a huge and efficient absorbtion surface area that is mainly due to the internal convolutions or folds, villi and microvilli of the inner intestinal surface. This ability to efficiently absorb nutrients and particularly the length and area of the intestines can also work against the candida sufferer whenever they have a serious and extensive candida issues with added bacteria and parasite problems in the gut.
So here is my explanation.
Whenever you take any nutrient orally, for instance, borax water – then how much of it is absorbed directly into the blood and how much acts in the intestines to kill pathogens? It is well known that borax is absorbed quickly and used up in the body. This applies to all other nutrients as well.
Given the above, then it is probably correct to assume that Borax will only ever act and have benefit on the first third of the upper intestines to kill pathogens but will not act throughout the whole of the intestines to kill candida, parasites and other pathogens. This will also apply to all other candida kill or parasite kill nutrients that are also supplemented. My belief is that these nutrients will either be absorbed into the blood, exhausted or neutralized after travelling only the first upper third of the upper intestines(the first 10 feet of the intestines).
But what about enemas? Unfortunately, exactly the same argument applies here as above. These enemas will only ever successfully act and be effective at killing pathogens and parasites in the lower third of the intestines(the last 10 feet of the intestines).
So what's left? It becomes glaringly apparent to me that the middle portion of the intestines(the middle 10 feet) from a person with candida is the area that is both untouched and unreachable by both oral nutrients and by enemas. So this middle region of the intestines appears to be the hidden powerhouse for pathogens, candida and parasites, allowing these pathogens to freely breed and continue to pump their waste toxin poisons unabated into the body.
In other words -- the middle region of the intestines acts as an untouched and unreachable safe-haven for all parasites, fungus and pathogens.
The above description seems to also adequately explain why a person with serious candida issues hits a brick wall and can make no further progress no matter what they try because that middle region of the intestines is left untreated and untouched by any protocol.
A possible solution to the above problems is to use a nutrient protocol that:
* Only acts throughout the whole intestines against candida, parasites and pathogens
* Is not absorbed so quickly into the blood.
There are only a few nutrient protocols that manage to fulfill the above criteria and these are:
* Laxatives
* Bentonite
* Chlorella
This is why I also strongly favour the use of laxatives against candida. Both turpentine and castor oil also have laxative action. Simultaneously, turpentine and CO also kill candida and other pathogens and remove biofilms as well while, at the same time, castor oil will help to slow absorption and also help to spread the turpentine throughout the intestines quickly and evenly because of its laxative effects. This protocol therefore successfully acts to get rid of pathogens throughout the WHOLE length of the intestines -- including the middle region of the gut. If you don't treat and eliminate the pathogens from the middle portion of the intestines then this can be a major reason why candida never goes away or just keeps coming back.
Here's a doc that I wrote recently that, for clarity, describes in detail just the candida-kill and pathogen-kill protocols that I advise. This doesn't show the full candida protocol but just shows and explains in detail how to take Lugol's Iodine, Borax, Alkalizing and the Turpentine/CO protocols. You should take all these protocols if you have serious candida problems.
Hopefully this will help people to more understand these protocols a little better. See doc below:
Recommended Candida/Pathogen Kill Protocols.
These protocols will kill candida and other involved pathogens both in the intestines and in the blood, tissues and organs. It will also remove biofilms in the intestines. Also kills parasites, detoxes heavy metals and helps to boost the immune system.
And its a reasonably cheap protocol that works.
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Candida can and does go away. Not without a fight, especially if we feed it and fungus is present in the vagina and/or toenails.
Few people understand the crippling effects to the immune system by toxic refined sugars, oils, junk foods, chemicals in processed foods and artificial sweeteners. They are also responsible for many allergies
The excess sugars in the body are used by fungus, yeasts, parasites, diseases, cancer, virus, to grow and replicate.
Our immune system is the front line of all health.
By fortifying our diet with a constant source of vitamins, minerals, supplemented with enzymes and bioflavonoids from raw fruits and vegetables.
Vitamin ‘C’ is the foundation and basic nutrient to implement the immune systems and the bodies use of nutrients for health, disease prevention, wellness and cell production. ‘C’ also neutralizes toxins disease cells and poisons, sending them to the liver for disposal. Oxygen also plays a big part, for disease cells do not grow or replicate in the presence of oxygen and or vitamin ‘C’.
Natural Health Scientist agree on two important points. All health is Dietary, and a healthy body will heal its self.
By fortifying our diet with a constant source of vitamins, minerals, supplemented with enzymes and bioflavonoids from raw fruits and vegetables. Protean for cell production, saturated fats for energy, fiber for bulk. Nutrients from a wide variety of foods Variety and spices are two more keys to good health. Herbals offer nutrients that are also medicinal.
Vitamin ‘C’ is the foundation and basic nutrient to implement the immune systems and the bodies use of nutrients for health, disease prevention, wellness and cell production. ‘C’ also neutralizes toxins, disease cells and poisons, sending them to the liver for disposal. Oxygen also plays a big part, for disease cells do not grow or replicate in the presence of oxygen and or vitamin ‘C’. Humans need one to 20 grams a day depending on age and health. Never underestimate the amount of
vitamin ‘C’ needs and uses. I took 135 grams of ‘C’ to stop the pain and inflammation of an abscessed tooth in 20 hours. My body did not complain and neither did I!
Human, animal grade diatomaceous is important with ‘C’, to control parasites that drain the body of nutrients, energy and to replace cells burnt up by inflammation and to control the destructive force of free radicals.
Borax. I teaspoon borax in a quart of pure water. Drink one teaspoon
3 times day with food, of the solution. Also soak the nails once a week in 2 tsp in 2 quarts of pure water. The toenails have to Grow out to be free of fungus. Our immune system is the Primary front line of all our bodies health. Also performs many janitorial duties, Neutralizing and moving toxins, poisons and heavy metals to the liver for disposal.
For those who have a tender digestive system, raw tiny seeds offer an incredible amount of nutrition and energy without any toxic backlash. They have been eaten for centuries. Chia, hemp, sesame, amaranth, spice pepper, mustard and many more. I just put a soup spoon full in my mouth and wash down with a liquid.
If you can stick with what I have researched and done. Within a year or less, you should be free of candida and maybe loose a whole lot of fat, NATURALLY and get real healthy at the lowest possible cost. …dez...
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This is a reply to # 2,214,689Just did an in depth research, candida and drugs. No drugs cure candida only subdue it for a time and comes ‘roaring’ back.
Even the mildest drugs have reactions, the really bad drugs for candida, I would not wish on my worst enemy.
Natural dietary with vitamins will cure candida in time if you stick with it. The advantage is that when cured your health will be better than ever. The reason is that you would not have gotten candida if were on a half way decent diet in the first place. This is a report by a man who cured himself.
Sometimes the effective supplements that actually kill candida can also cause temporary reactive symptoms such as vomiting, nausea, or diarrhea. These reactions are caused by the candida in this way:
'as the extremely high levels of candida are being decimated', the candida produces large amounts of toxins (acetylaldahyde and methane gas) to deter the person from using the effective remedy'. These reactions will stop once the extreme level of candida is brought down to a level that is no longer controlling the body, but the body is controlling the candida.
I can understand this for I had a scary reaction to niacin (flush) which dumps all kinds toxins from heart, veins and from under the skin. The flush is left to do it’s thing for two three hours, then shower to wash the toxins form the skin and put on fresh ‘clothing’.
I was warned about the flush. Real doctors recommend niacin to heart and schizophrenia patients. …dez...
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Everyone overlooks the Immune System itself. After Candida, our immune system is in shambles.
Here is proof that Iodine & Vitamin D3 restores the immune system and kills Candida permanently.
Vitamin D3 destroys Candida & Why:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2200914
Candida Cured by Iodine Testimonials:
http://tinyurl.com/iodine-testimonials
I cured my own Candida Symptoms with iodine:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2183934#i
Also see Prostate here:
http://tinyurl.com/iodine-testimonials
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Hi Grizz....I also cured myself of serious systemic candida 8 years ago and here is the full protocol that I took:
Here is the strategy:
* Wide-acting Anti-fungals and Antimicrobials
* Anti-biofilm protocols
* Alkalizing
* Essential Detox
* Liver and Kidney Support
* Vitamin and Minerals Support (Immune Support)
* Simple Anti-Candida Diet
Here is an at-a-glance diagram of what the protocol does:
I've also used this protocol to help other candida sufferers successfully over the last 8 years.
And when I say that I'm cured this means that I can now eat things like sugar, carbohydrates and drink wine and beer without any problems at all. I can eat and drink what I like in normal moderation with no reactions whatsoever and thats what I mean by a cure.As if I never had candida.
But it wasn't always like that.
My own candida symptoms were continual bloating in the gut, athletes foot(had it for over 20 years, tried everything on it, just wouldn't go away), psoriasis, eczma, jock itch(for years), bowel movement only once a week(probably liver problems too), always constipated, teeth falling out, low energy and tired all the time, insomnia, brain fog, unclear thinking, low thyoid(low iodine) etc
All the above candida "symptoms" are now long gone and they've stayed gone for over 8 years now.
No two people with candida will ever have the same symptoms because there's such a variety of other bacteria, viruses, mycoplasma and parasites that are usually also involved and associated to some degree and which can also express and contribute their own weird symptoms that can so easily confuse a proper candida diagnosis. 80% of people with Crohn's, Colitis, IBS, SIBO, Leaky Gut also have candida. That's why candida can have over 100 different symptoms. See this link to see what other diseases candida is also proven to be commonly associated with:
Here is a diagram I drew on Candida virulece and disease associations from my own research:
Candida Progression and Virulence
Now, be honest, do you really think that a heavily weakened and downgraded immune sysem and just taking iodine could cure all that without a little more help? Even iodine cannot possibly cure all those associated diseases could it?
And my own view is that if you still have to be careful what you eat to avoid allergic reactions, still have chemical sensitivities, still on a complex diet where the candida comes back or rebounds if you don't stay on the diet -- then you're simply accomodating the candida that is still inside you by just managing the symptoms. And that's really not what I'ld call a cure.
But I would also agree wholeheartedly with you about supplementing higher dose lugols iodine against candida but even that's not enough to defeat serious systemic candida plus all the associated problems that can arise in my own opinion, even though it will, as you say, hugely benefit the body in so many ways but is really only a small part of my own protocol. See this article:
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grizz is not cured since he eats a special diet.
you and i can eat Sugar without reactions.
grizz does not understand things like liver and kidney support. alkalizing is beyond his ken.
there are only two procedures in his worldview: paleo diet and Iodine supplementation.
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If grizz wants to get rid of his candida inspired chemical sensitivity problem, then he should follow the protocol described here in this research article for neutralizing aldehyde poisons from candida waste:
The Candida/Aldehyde Hypothesis
As regards dosages here is what you should supplement according to the above article:
"In case you wondered, Dr. Cooter and Dr. Schmtt suggest 300 micrograms of Molybdenum in three divided doses per day, and further suggests staying on it for at least 4 months.. Dr. Atkins suggests 450 to 900 miligrams daily of Pantethine with an equal amount of Pantethenic Acid."
Taking regular daily amounts of B Vitamins, ALA and Milk Thistle would probably also help you here.
Of course, the fact that you still have chemical sensitivities is a good indicator that you still have candida in your body as well. So the above is not a cure for candida -- its just a way of managing and neutralizing the aldehyde toxins that are still being produced and pumped into your body by your candida.
If you want to permanently get rid of chemical sensitivities and allergies then you will have to also find a way to both properly get rid of your candida and repair the gaping holes in your intestines as well which causes these allergic conditions.
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This is a reply to # 2,214,709cure candida Quick true with exception, causes
So you say you have Candida? And you are trying to 'kill' it? Well that's never going to happen. Candida is a functional part of our body. Without Candida causing these issues in you WOULD DIE!
Candida is a major cause due to 2 main things????
1. Low Intestinal Flora
2. Excess Fat in bloodstream.
3. Excess toxins.
4. The Pill ????? The yeast connection birth control.
Few people understand the crippling effects to the immune system by toxic refined sugars, vegetable oils, junk foods, soy, drugs, alcohol, chemicals in processed foods, artificial sweeteners, soy milk, microwave. The excess sugars in the body are used by fungus, yeasts, parasites, bad bacteria bad e coli, cancer and diseases to Grow and Replicate.
Vitamin ‘C’ is the cornerstone of disease prevention and health. All vitamins/minerals are important and impossible to get from supermarket foods, and impossible to avoid the toxins in hundreds of processed packaged items. ...dez...Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 2,213,989Poll, Yeasts, Candida, The Pill?
Do you and any friends take contraceptives and have yeast, candida, health problems. …dez...- Re: Candida Never Goes Away -- Reaso... beatty57
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This is a reply to # 2,220,574cure candida Quick true with exception, causes
So you say you have Candida? And you are trying to 'kill' it? Well that's never going to happen. Candida is a functional part of our body. Without Candida causing these issues in you WOULD DIE!
Candida is a major cause due to 2 main things????
1. Low Intestinal Flora
2. Excess Fat in bloodstream.
3. Excess toxins.
4. The Pill ????? The yeast connection birth control?
Few people understand the crippling effects to the immune system by toxic refined sugars, vegetable oils, junk foods, soy, drugs, alcohol, chemicals in processed foods, artificial sweeteners, soy milk, microwave. The excess sugars in the body are used by fungus, yeasts, parasites, bad bacteria bad e coli, cancer and diseases to Grow and Replicate.
Vitamin ‘C’ is the cornerstone of disease prevention and health. All vitamins/minerals are important and impossible to get from supermarket foods, and impossible to avoid the toxins in hundreds of processed packaged items. ...dez...
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This is a reply to # 2,213,989they never go away because they are not infections.
They dont respond to threatment of infection.
I believe they are causing a condition that is known under a different name, cancer.
And cancer is not really known to go away from any anti fungal threatment.
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