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Hello,this is my first post and I want to
present myself-I have IBS-C,LG,SIBO,GERD,nasal polyp,chronic fatigue,chronic infections,PTSD,anxiety,depressions etc.
My fatigue is almost constant and I don't know if this means I have CFS.
Surprisingly my blood test showed my thyroid is ok (doc said this- FRT4-9.89 pmol/l FT3-4.13 pmol/l TSH-1.71 ml U/L.
My Na and K levels are also normal (144 and 4.45;ser.Fe-20).
Can someone help me figure out in what stage AF I am and what supps to take?My fatigue worsened after going on a low-carb diet 3 months ago.Even in the summer I get cold sensations,in the winter infections disappear only in late March.Every morning I feel like death and during the day I have energy only for walking.I always took an afternoon nap from lack of energy,now 3 weeks on a licorice root tea and it is history-I lay down with very low energy,but can't sleep during the day.I think licorice was a bad idea.
Please someone give me some tips
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This is a reply to # 2,191,534See here for what stage AF you're in:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2164032
Then see here why going low-carb was a bad idea:
//www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=2137749- Re: fatigue Chris88
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This is a reply to # 2,191,574I think AF is real with its crashes,fears,depressions,etc.
Low carb may be dangerous for AF
and I'll start eating some grains.
Yesterday I tried an antidepressant and it was like miracle-energy,no bad mood.But I'm scared if that "miracle" will not further exhaust my adrenals as I'm already in a very late stage AF.- Re: fatigue saywhatagain
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This is a reply to # 2,193,144I strongly recommend not to go the anti-depressant route, this has ruined many, many lives and there is no way back for some.- Re: fatigue Chris88
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This is a reply to # 2,193,169my life is already a disaster,so I want to try antidepressants.Deanxit is very hard for my adrenals (strong cold waves minutes after ingesting it),but after that I felt totally cured,with energy like other people and hard to be stressed.I think I am able to work with Deanxit.But will my adrenals get worse after months on deanxit?- Re: fatigue JerryYogi
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This is a reply to # 2,193,481Hi,
It must be weird to get a reply after 9 years. I also feel totally burned out, depressed. I started taking Deanxit a few days back, and i noticable feel much better. Online its hard to find testimonies on Deanxit, so i thought to contact you. Are you still taking Deanxit? And how was your long term experience with this drug? For how long did you take it Was it difficult to withdraw from it later?
Thanking you
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This is a reply to # 2,193,144Under-eating causes crashes, increase in anxiety, depression, and every single other symptom blamed on AF:
//www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=2168597
Under-eating is "AF".
Even the creator of the AF theory mentions a form of under-eating as a caused to these symptoms:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2177793
You need to find out how many calories you're averaging because if you're under-eating you will never get out of what you think is "AF".
Here's one of the sites I recommend to calculate up how many calories you're getting:
http://cronometer.com/
Make sure you're not over-exercising as that is basically a form of calorie-restriction too. So many people here got in trouble from under-eating and over-exercising.
Also make sure you're getting at least 8 hrs of sleep per night as not enough sleep causes or contributes to a lot of these same symptoms.
Transition to high-carb because your body needs glucose for fuel every cell in your body, especially your brain cells which will help improve your mood and cognitive abilities.- Re: fatigue handyman007
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This is a reply to # 2,193,234natway, you are clueless about the issue you are attempting to debate! I have adrenal insufficiency that is proven by a salvia test. I'm in a "phase 3" burnout. This is close to addisons disease (but not quite there). This is made worse by a chronic candida infection (thrush). Everything that has been written by naturopathic doctors seem to fit my case. This includes high stress (PTSD) during childhood, Yeast infections, then a major illness (Epstein Barr) with many complications, then total burnout. Dieting does nothing, and eating carbs seem to make it worse. I usually feel the best when I fast all day. Yet, no medical doctor will diagnose this or treat it...And the only naturopath in my area that did treat it with low doses of bioidentical hormones and vitamin/mineral balancing, made me feel better than any medical doctor. She is no longer in practice, and I'm not aware of anybody else who does it.
How can you explain these results, if this treatment/condition is a sham?- Re: fatigue natway
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This is a reply to # 2,193,688We are talking about so-called "adrenal fatigue" (a fake disease), not adrenal insufficiency (a medically proven real disease). Adrenal insufficiency (Addisons) is not determined by a saliva test, but by blood tests and you would be put on corticosteroids by your MD.
Alternative practitioners, like Naturopaths, claim saliva test prove so-called "adrenal fatigue", but almost everyone in the AF support section who did saliva tests all report that in some part of the day their cortisol level was HIGHER than normal.
What were your saliva test readings? And where can I read in the medical literature about "phase 3" burnout? I'm unfamiliar with it.
Obviously if you have a hormone imbalance and a practitioner gave you hormone replacements, why wouldn't you start feeling better? But if you don't find out what the root cause of your hormone imbalance is, then you're just being bandaided with hormone replacements.
Btw, how many calories do you average per day? Everything you say points to what everyone else in the AF support section is suffering from; starvation.- Re: fatigue handyman007
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This is a reply to # 2,193,872You can read about "phase 3 adrenal burnout" simply by doing an internet search. It goes in 4 phases. Phase 4 is Addisons. I'm at phase 3 just above Addisons, so a medical doctor won't treat it. There is no starvation. Where are you getting this nonsense?
Reference ranges for cortisol test:
5.1-40.2 morning
2.1-15.7 noon
1.8-12 evening
0.9-9.2 night
Cortisol:
morning 5.25
noon 2.51
evening 2.03
night 6.67
Strangely my cortisol rises slightly at night.
optimal range:
18-35
6-12
4-8
2-6
Doctors usually don't test for this stuff....And if they did, it would not be considered a disorder unless it was full blown Addisons (phase 4). A naturopath did give me some low doses of bioidentical hormones, and I did start feeling better. She is no longer in business, and I can't find anybody else. So, what probably started off as high cortisol as a young man, has turned in to low cortisol as an adult.
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This is a reply to # 2,193,962Can you post a link that talks about "phase 3 adrenal burnout" so I can be sure we're on the same page of understanding?
How do you know there is no starvation with you? How many calories do you average? Starvation causes night time cortisol elevation fyi.
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This is a reply to # 2,193,962What makes you think that low cortisol output means your adrenal glands are tired?
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This is a reply to # 2,196,026I don't know what else could cause low cortisol....And medicine has offered no explanation. Low doses of cortisol seemed to help in the past. Why would supplementing with cortisol be any different than with any other hormone, if it were low?
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