If these are just regular threads doing regular things, then somebody slap me and I'll sit down and shut up!
Well, the red and blue threads looks like regular manufactured threads to me. The "node", or trapping clusters on it however look Morgy, not unlike so many photos sufferers post that show lesion matter and infected hair.
They don't seem harmful and just may be beneficial(nematode, etc. trapping). In other words, they're a response to my infection, not THE infection.
Clew the optimist finding silver linings:) But it does feel about right to me. This type of explanation works for some of the mindboggling aspects of Morgellons incluing the relatively low contagiousness and the association with tick-borne illnesses. For 3 years I've been trying to judge the toxicity of these fibers, and I change my mind from day to day. Perhaps it is our borrellia, bartonella, nematode, and/or candida loads that determine how plagued we are by Morg fibers.
A press release from the recent Morgellons coference in Texas mentions a presentation suggested a lack of fungal involvement with Morgellons. http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/04/prweb11768818.htm
Ms. Middelveen, a microbiologist skilled in Medical Mycology, demonstrated through detailed contrast and comparison that there was no evidence to support fungal involvement with the etiology of MD.
Unfortunately, researchers from the conference apperantly do not feel compelled to present their research to the online Morgellon's community. These scientists would do well to interact with the "psuedoscientists"- to guide these amateurs in the scientific method as well as to learn from their experiences. Rather, the standard seems to be to distance themselves. Do they jest at those, who failed by modern medicine, desperately bought microscopes and stool strainers?:
With a light-hearted flair, the subject of Pseudoscience was addressed by Lisa Wallace, RN, MSN, PHN. Her contribution, “A House Divided: The Detrimental Effects of Pseudoscience on the Quest for the Validation of Morgellons", was most informative and entertaining.
Well, the online Morg community hasn't been informed, so glad that y'all stayed entertained in TX. FWIW I care not so much whether Morgellons is "validated", I'm seeking treatment solutions. Everyone in my world knows it is real, the CDC (alongside Wikipedia) seems like one of the last online bastions of the DOP camp. (Mayo Clinic no longer cites their own studies, their website now put the onus of DOP suggestions on the CDC/Kaiser study).
Psuedoscientists are the ones who told me to try epsom salt baths, equine anthelmintics, borax detergent, warned me of e-pollution and sugar and scabies creams. These measures gave me life back when the doc's antibiotics, antidepressants, and bleach bath Rxs did nothing for me.
I really appreciate the way Carnicom puts his research out there, as working theses, with beautiful photos, everything linked, meticulous citation... Both he and OP seem openminded to the possibility of a new type of unclassified life form, while remaining grounded by trying to match up what they see with traditionally recognized organisms.
This is an open forum and I am sure Clew would be thrilled to hear reactions to his images and ideas from established professional scientists. If I knew anything about lichen I'd share not rant. The doors open....
This reminds me of a high-profile assertion that there are no biologicals involved, as in none found. That it is all nanotech.
There is something very wrong with the way this entire phenomenon has been handled, steered, modulated. From media harping on terms that are (IMO) distractions, i.e., "the fiber disease," continual references to something from hundreds of years ago, insertions of (IMO) False Focus, to people on the ground so lost in this thing, blaming this or that or yet that way over there for it.... and others accepting it as such... at least for a while until many discover that, no, that's not quite it either...
Red Herring Look Over Theres.
I'll wax conspiratorial for a bit. If the thing is a multi-culprit problem, a GMO nematode that jumped into humans and a subsequent GMO fungus released to try and kill it that also jumped..... and gene swap while they are at it, producing, "novelties,".... Well, I'll try putting on the hat of an, "enemy," that had a lot to lose through the revealing of what had come about.... I would send in, "agents," of persuasion/dissuasion. Much like agents are sent to inflitrate militias, were sent in to infiltrate so-called radical groups of the 60s, any group deemed a threat to the status quo. In this case the focus would be on disinformation dissemination, deflection, protection of those responsible for a charade by continual charade.
I'm not saying that this is actually so. Probably best to view as just a Thought Experiment. I do try to look at things from a variety of angles. I've long been a, "hat wearer," figuratively. The ability to adapt a number of mindsets, view, "reality," through them, discard and try on others. It has been a healthy and informative knack.
It could be, as well, that various viewpoints collide after a more natural course, that there are attachments to opinions as to, "what is," that are in conflict through dogged determination to have personal, "what is," validated as, "What Is," in capital letters, lit up in lights, on the marquee. Probably best to view as just a Thought Experiment.
Another possibility is that there is of a mixture of those two in play. Again, probably best to view as just a Thought Experiment.
One could entertain any number of scenarios, from, "new," life-form, to something very old that had been isolated through natural forces that has been released again through breaching of containment, to alien life-form released by a manevolent alien intelligence, to something that came in on a meteor, to... to.. to... and PTB attempts to restrict information and marginalize those suffering blatant and profound symptoms for fear of panicking a populace that has been entirely infected, just not exhibiting can't-be-ignored problems.... this could go on and on and on and on..... a dizzying wearing and discarding of hats....
I do tend to subscribe to the principle of Occam's Razor at this point. I'm going to have to get a digital microscope hooked to computer. Will have to document on a regular basis via pics. I plan to take the least outlandish to specialists. I will initially concentrate on pics of nematode-type things and try for a conclusive i.d. on that count. After which I will bring out pics of what appears to be fungus, introducing it as a possible adversary to the nematode-type, and attempt to get a conclusive id. on that.
I'm going to approach this as if this is a, "natural," affliction, something that has been dealt to me in an unlucky draw of the cards. That will be my focus going in.
It has come to mind over the last couple of days that I do know a doc that may well give me reference to, get me an appointment with, a tropical med specialist for the appearing nematode-type portion. I have to attempt to do this in the system in which I have to operate due to financial constraints. From there I will attempt to get a ref to a medical mycologist for the fungus portion.
If that craps out, I will attempt to go to university students. This last has been put on the back burner for a number of reasons, not the least of which is physical and mental fatigue.
I have my own personal, "what if." What if I have a disseminated strongyloides stercoralis infection? Such is listed as being 90% fatal. What if what appears to be a fungus is just that, something naturally occuring in my environment that is taking advantage of the food source? I live in Fungi World. S.E. Louisiana. There are some things that just don't quite fit with this... but I am no expert. What if something I picked up living and visiting in a S.E. Asian country has gone hyper and is slated to, about to, kill me?
Could it be that the things that just don't fit are issues, things unto themselves, that are incidental?
I have to start over again at square one. Approach as though it is a conventional affliction. Which it might be. Those things that just don't fit.... will have to be set aside for now, as best I am able to do that.
In any case it is a conundrum to attempt to unravel. We are at such a disadvantage in our tragically flawed medical system. I guess we are all doing the best we can.
It does appear to pay to have a well-functioning Smell Dectector operational in sifting through what is presented to us.
http://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2011/06/29/agrobacterium-tumefaciens-is-th...
Biofilm — Almost Like a Pseudo Skin
Vitaly Citovsky at Stonybrook in New York studied the fibers of 10 patients and said
they had Agrobacterium Tumafaciens in their bodies (the bacterium that causes crown gall disease in plants),
but what amazed him the most was that he found a biofilm on the skins of these people.
*** It is almost like a pseudo skin ***
We have to penetrate that biofilm and draw this stuff out of the body or these people will never get better.
If you don’t, it will stay in the skin and get worse.
“I would like to clarify the involvement of my research group in the Morgellons studies.
We are biochemists and cell and molecular biologists who study fundamental and diverse biological processes, such as genetic transformation, intercellular transport, and chromatin remodeling, using plants as experimental systems.
Because one of our model organisms, Agrobacterium, is capable of
genetically transforming not only plants, but also other eukaryotic
species, including human cells,we were contacted by Dr. Stricker and MRF to investigate potential presence of Agrobacterium in biopsies from Morgellons patients.
A limited number of anonymous samples provided by Dr. Stricker were tested by PCR for the presence of different families of Agrobacterium genes.
Control reactions included samples from healthy donors provided by us.
Only Morgellons, but not healthy subjects tested positive in these studies.
This observation does not imply that Agrobacterium causes Morgellons or that Morgellons is indeed an infectious disease.
However, it does encourage future studies to determine
(i) statistical significance of our data,
(ii) whether or not Agrobacterium is not only present extracellularly, but also causes genetic transformation of the infected tissues, and
(iii) whether or not infection of laboratory animals with Agrobacterium can recreate at least some symptoms of Morgellons.
These are the immediate goals which may or may not be pursued, depending on
the available research funding
which is currently non-existent for Morgellons.”
Vitaly Citovsky, Ph.D.
Professor of Biochemistry and Cell BiologyDr. Kalani said the fibers from Morgellons patients were fungal.
Because the body becomes like soil, fungus is attracted.
(Dear God, help us!)
The fibers are coated with the Agobacterium, which is a pathogenic fungus also known as Agent Green.
Whether it is
getting in the lungs,
being ingested, or is
vector borne or
transmitted sweat to sweat
is the big question.
I took slides to my friend who is an entomologist and we found fungal hyphae, alternarium, and pathogenic funguses on the slides.
These are not things that grow in humans. They are organisms that grow in plants.
So the human bodies of these sufferers are becoming like soil and what does that attract?
(the human bodies of these sufferers — become hosts to these parasites — if ALL are exposed, then why do only SOME become “pierced” become hosts?)
Fungus, mold and parasites.
Certain parts of Clew's fibers look similar to images of alternaria fungus.
To me they sure look similar to alternaria images, which often have neat color variations similar to your photos.
This link showing alternaria alternata (1 of 50 known alternaria) shows a close up of the swoolen sections. It says to "Note: transverse and longitudinal septations."- http://thunderhouse4-yuri.blogspot.com/2010/06/alternaria-alternata.html. Seen any of these septations Clew?
Interesting that they could thrive within packing tape. Do you think that they used dead hair for an energy source? This would not surprise me, and it doesn't surprise me that they grew with next to no oxygen and light.
Compare Clew's lower images to Sarsia tubulosa. From www.asnailsodyssey.com/LEARNABOUT/HYDROID/hydrMedu.php