If commercially available probiotic pills do not offer the best source (spectrum) of probiotics, can you recommend a source for these other species?

Now I have a possible explanation of my neverending overgowth:
"C. albicans can prevent the regrowth of Lactobacillus spp. in the stomach after cefoperazone and promote increased colonization by Enterococcus spp"
After 3 rounds of Antibiotics for ENT infections they found these bacteria in my mouth!
I was thinking about candida and they told its just another bug but now make sense. discovered candida overgrowth later with stool test

I have read papers mentioning it is difficult to process and encapsulate obligated anaerobic bacteria. They die in contact with oxygen. This is the reason why we don't find obligated anaerobic in pharmaceutical grade probiotic.

My son can't tolerate probiotics and I know there are a small number of people who can't. I just don't get it, because lactobacillus gg is supposed to help get rid of candida and yet in my sons case it seemed to make his condition worsen again, it seems crazy that something that should help someone should end up turning against the host. My son never had a fungal candida problem until he took Kiki soil based probiotics and again they state how good they are for the host, yet in my sons case they became pathongenic and he developed a really bad candida problem. I think probiotics should have warnings put on them like cigarette packets have that they could potentially damage your health. They need to be better regulated and much more research needs to be done because these companies make bold claims how good these probiotics are for your health.

do you believe that probiotics / fermented food can completly recover the gut ? will it help al the strains in our gut to grow because of the environment and ph change???
thanks

You misunderstood my comment. Since Bacteroides can not live outside the human gut there is no way for a manufacturer to make these. The only way this seems to be possible is to have personalized "poop pills" made from fecal matter from one of your healthy family members. Hence there are no probiotic that can be bought off the shelf that contains Bacteroides.

Here is an example of some of the stuff i have read on this topic:http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Probiotics_-_we_should_all_be_taking_these_all_the_time_and_double_the_dose_following_ Antibiotics _and_gastroenteritis

http://www.drpompa.com/additional-resources/health-tips/227-probiotics-digest...

Bacteroides, which I spoke of earlier, are one of the most important and most abundant bacteria in the colon and are not present in any probiotic on the market. They simply would never survive more than a few seconds outside the gut in the presence of oxygen. Although Bacteroides can’t be taken in a pill or powder, they can be fed from prebiotic (the food for bacteria) that occurs naturally in healthy foods. - See more at: http://www.drpompa.com/additional-resources/health-tips/227-probiotics-digest...

I wanted to mention something else you might find interesting. When I first reacted to blue cheese, I stayed on it for 3 months solid. After I stopped taking it, the effect disappeared within 3 days. This suggests that the blue cheese mold was not persisting in my gut.

After that I took Vitamin Shoppe's "Ultimate 10" probiotic for a solid month. When I stopped it, it took a full 3 months to wear off. Clearly one or more of the strains persisted in my gut for a long time. I suspect it was B. bifidum.

The reason I stopped these two, as I explained in earlier posts, is that even though they gave me a positive effect, the course of it was far too slow to be effective.

After those two, I tried out Prescript Assist. I literally only took one pill and I'm still feeling the effect from it almost 5 weeks later. This demonstrates that one of the strains (probably Bacteroides) has established a pretty strong foothold in my gut.

The reason I haven't taken any more PA yet is because it's so very powerful. I actually get knocked out like I've taken a heavy sedative when I take it, and I don't want to be in that kind of state when relatives come over for Thanksgiving and Christmas, so I'm going to wait until after New Year's to start on it. My plan is to take it for a minimum of 3 months. By that point, I will be able to tell whether it can cure me or not.

I have high hopes that it will cure me simply from the extremely potent effect from one pill. In comparison, it took a full month of the "Ultimate 10" to get this same type of effect.

It's confusing to explain why getting "knocked out" would be an effect I would want, but it has to do with the nature of my candida and die-off effect. Put quite simply, antifungals and a no-sugar diet push my symptoms further and further from normal (no symptoms), and the Prescript-Assit pulls them back closer to normal very powerfully. This would make experienced a sedated phase for a brief period, but I suspect that if I continue taking it I will move past that and gradually return to normal until I am functionally cured. This is the ideal situation and I won't be able to know if it will happen until Jan 1. I really hope it works.