sinus infection/ post nasal drip 
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MoreI am new to making my own Colloidal Silver . I get sinus infections/post nasal drip. I have taken Colloidal Silver
8 PPM using eye dropper under tongue. It does help but, the post nasal drip won't go away. Can someone give me instructions on the dosage of Colloidal Silver and if I should be adding anything else to it.
My sister that lives in Ohio, gave me a small bottle she bought from her chiropractor it was for sinus an bronchitis. I only used an eye dropper full under my tongue with in hour it started loosening up. It worked well, but expensive. Can anyone help me or guide me on this. Thanks
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- Re: sinus infection/ post nasal drip naturesniff
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This is a reply to # 2,116,457Particle size is too large. You need Colloidal Silver atoms. Althought the PPM now at a minimum of 3000 PPM you can actually dilute it to 20 PPM and get 160 16 oz bottles of 20 PPM.
- Re: sinus infection/ post nasal drip webecruzin
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,116,457Get yourself a nasal spray bottle and put ionic silver solution in it. 10PPM is all you need. You can find nasal spray bottles on the net - amazon has a plastic one for $1.50 but I'd recommend paying a bit more and getting a good one made of brown or blue glass. Do not refill some nasal sprayer you bought with some other product in it. Get a new unused one. You can also buy a nasal sprayer that already has ionic silver in it - Sovereign Silver is one brand that has this. Under the tongue might be helpful but you need to get that solution up in your nasal passages where the infection is. Spray and snort it back. It works.
- Re: sinus infection/ post nasal drip zoey2
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- Re: sinus infection/ post nasal drip Dquixote1217
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This is a reply to # 2,116,457
I suggest something more like 20 PPM (no use for anything larger than that though), and I would take much more than a mere dropper full (and swallow it after holding it under the tongue). What you really should do is to get a nasal sprayer and thoroughly irrigate your sinuses with colloidal silver a few times each day.
Pay no attention to advice to use single silver atoms - there is no product on earth which is actually made up of single silver atoms and no technology which can produce such a product.
- Re: sinus infection/ post nasal drip naturesniff
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This is a reply to # 2,117,071There is a website http://www.colloidal-silver-atoms.com
that actually discusses the existence of silver atoms, monatomic atoms and of course matter that is not supposed to exist.
You just cannot ignore people that have a PHd and claim that they know nothing,: Scientists Francis S. Kelly and George Maass PhD reporting that silver atoms are not only possible but they are smallest particle size achievable.
Scientists at the CERN Institute found monatomic particles and matter that is not supposed to exist.
Most people are stuck in the 60 year old electrolysis method of producing nanoparticle colloids, and are “ignorant” of new technology that actually produces solid silver atoms in pure distilled water.
Why? Because they do not know how it is done, is the explanation I got from the Colloidal Silver atoms producers, plus if they were to reveal the process, they would soon be overwhelmed with competitors with “deep pockets” offering the same type of products.
Reading "gold2live" website you can see why it makes sense, and most will understand the difference in effectiveness. People are grown ups and have a right to make up their own mind with someone telling readers to ignore comments made about Colloidal Silver atoms, because the way some people bash the company and its products, is just too suspicious for me.
I am a firm believer in their products they worked for me and other family members, and I will put in a good word whenever I can and find the time to do so.
Here is what I found out when I bought their products:
1. I put their Colloidal Silver in the freezer and when I thawed out, I measured the PPM and it was still 3000 PPM, no chemicals dropped to the bottom as expressed by the folks that make the colloidal silver atoms.
2. I left the product in the sun for a week, tested the PPM and it was still 3000 PPM, nothing precipitated to the bottom as expressed by the colloidal silver atoms producers.
3. I heated and let it evaporate to half….The PPM Doubled!, again nothing dropped to the bottom.
Then you take into consideration that they have the worlds largest testing facilities confirming that they do have the High PPM, and that the metals they state are there. This is important because ALS Environmental is worldwide; it’s not some small obscure laboratory located in the swamps of Louisiana somewhere.
Now concerning your nasal problem, when I had a sinus infection all I did was tilt my head back as far as I could, dropped a drop in each nostril and inhaled through my nose as deep as possible, I did that 3 times a day and in less than a week the infection went away and I did not need an expensive surgery to scrap of the sinuses.- One more time, single particle silve... Dquixote1217
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This is a reply to # 2,117,104
We have had this discussion before. People saying that single atom particles can theoretically exits is far different from having the technology to produce those particles. And what CERN found has no bearing at all on whether or not such particles can be produced with avialiable technology.
The site you are talking about is full of bullcrap - there is no technology on the planet which can produce single atom silver particle solutions and they have provided no proof whatsoever that they have such a technology. They can't, because the don't.
Now, what they have provided in the past is evidence that they don't know the difference between particles and PPM and, incredibly, the claim that they got their unique technology from aliens.
One more time, their productgs might work - but they are NOT single atom solutions and in the opinion of the vast majority of people who actually do know about silver solutions, they have way more PPM than needed and are way overpriced.
- Re: One more time, single particle s... naturesniff
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This is a reply to # 2,117,862So what exactly are your qualifications to judge what is Crap, what exists and what does not exist?
Once again you are bashing without proof.
These people are Christians and do not believe in what you accuse them.
Present your proof that they believe in Alien Technology.
What proof do you have that they are not single atoms solutions?
Your just protecting the people YOU Represent.- Re: One more time, single particle s... naturesniff
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This is a reply to # 2,117,935For some 50 Years the nanoparticle 10 - 20 PPM technological "experts" have controlled the industry, yet many are just "One Trick Pony" producers, that is all they know how to make, so it suits their interest to bash anything new that exceeds anyones expectations of a Perfected Colloid.
These so called experts control much of what happens on forums.
And use the same tactics that the Pharmceutical Industry uses against Colloidal Silver products as well as anything that is Alternative Health.
Your constant Ridicule of a good company that has done a lot of good has causeed me to lose the respect in anything you post.
Good Luck- Re: One more time, single particle s... Dquixote1217
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This is a reply to # 2,118,163
While I have never said that their product does not work I have pointed out quite correctly that the technology to produce single atom silver solutions simply does not exist - and no one has ever refuted that fact with evidence that such technology does exist, Note that theoretical possibilities and discoveries in the CERN supercolloider do not count as proof.
I have also pointed out that the same company you continue to tout first appeared here in this forum not knowing the difference between particles and parts per million and, incredibly, claimed that there silver atom production method was revealed to them by aliens. So bogus was their claims and so blatant was their promotion of their product that multiple user IDs were banned from CureZone.
So, in essence we have a company claiming to be able to do something which no one else on earth can do and no tests exist which could confirm such a feat if it were possible who refuses to divulge anything whatsoever about their production method other than to say trust us because we got it from aliens.
If you choose not to respect what I post based on me posting the above facts, then that is regrettable, but it is your choice. It isn't me that is posting over and over and over touting a company who has made fantastical claims.
- Re: One more time, single particle s... Dquixote1217
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- Re: One more time, single particle s... Dquixote1217
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This is a reply to # 2,117,935
While I have researched and written about colloidal silver and gold rather extensively, it really takes no qualifications to simply post obvious and known facts - such as the fact no one has ever produced a proven single atom silver solution because the technology does not exist. It takes a multi-billion dollar supercollider to even produce single atoms and sub-atomic particles,
I suggest you go to the wayback machine and follow the progression of gold2live from its inception in February 2009 until today. Along the way you will find lots of incredible and inaccurate material posted - including proof of their lack of understanding of the difference between particles and parts per million and claims such as their products being able to stop aging.
The first capture of their site was in February 2009 and it included this passage:
"Our products particle size is 1 Atom per molecule which makes them Monatomic, and they exceed the reported research findings, plus they can no longer be explained away as a "myth" since Superatoms confirms the existence of Monatomic gold."
http://web.archive.org/web/20090225110350/http://www.gold2live.com/
1 atom per moleculs? Good grief!
Bashing? No, I am just posting facts and known history - and longtime CZ members are well aware of the history of that company and its agents spamming this forum and being thoroughly shot down for their lack of expertise and bogus science.
- Re: One more time, single particle s... kscmac
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This is a reply to # 2,118,470"Our products particle size is 1 Atom per molecule" One molecule of what? with 1 single atom of what? How did they prove this? A polaroid picture? You might post all the info you have on this company from the beginning till now and let people read it, if after reading it they still believe, Oh well some people still believe the Earth is flat! You can provide proof till hell freezes over! You just can not over come the blind. Any body who can read and think can see what this company is up to.
- Re: One more time, single particle s... ino
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This is a reply to # 2,118,477I think there marketing blurb is formulated within a religious cult group and directed at the mentally challenged. I've never read so much BS in all my days of involvement with EIS/CS.
If anyone believes any of it, they know less than nothing about this stuff and would be deserving of any misadventure which may befall them.
I do believe I may be mentally challenged for even adding to this conversation.- Re: One more time, single particle s... kscmac
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This is a reply to # 2,118,512Those of us who can read and think just want to help people and don't want to see people ripped off! So we try to show them the truth and of course "they" just attack, no Science to back them up.
- Re: One more time, single particle s... naturesniff
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This is a reply to # 2,118,530Ripped off? How would they get ripped of if you can take their 3000 PPM and dilute it to your 20 PPM and make 160 16 oz bottles?
You dont make sense, I think for the old timers here is that they do not like to get exposed with the Freezer test that proves there are chemicals in the low ppm products.
Just looking at the gold2live.com website on the Colloidal Silver page, they actually have a picture of mostly all colloids that have chemicals YUK!
Quite the contrary people are getting ripped off with the Low PPM Stuff that takes for ever to work, and consuming a bunch of chemicals.
Mentally Challenged? or Disinformation to deciever your followers?- Re: One more time, single particle s... ino
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This is a reply to # 2,118,728I don't have any 'followers', I'm a solitary animal and I don't 'follow' anyone, but I recognise BS when I see it, and their marketing blurb is full of it.
Here's an exerpt from their blurb...
"Colloidal Atoms do not reflect light, which explains why these products are crystal clear as water" end blurb.
That would also explain why they are NOT colloids, nor are they atoms. They are atoms minus one electron, hence they are ions, positively electrically charged silver ions to be precise, therefore it is an Ionic silver solution not dissimilar to many products out there calling themselves ' Colloidal Silver '!
Ions don't refract light!
At $200 a bottle a man would have to have rocks in his head to even consider the purchase of that stuff at that price, let alone the purported PPM it contains. At that PPM level it has to be an MSP. Silver solutions with that magnitude in ppm of silver needs 'something?' to prevent gravity from pulling that silver out of solution. Silver has a solubility limit in plain water and their product goes just a 'wee bit' over that limit at 10000ppm or whatever...LOL.
Here's another exerpt from same blurb...
"Shelf Life is approximately 2 years, if refrigerated approximately 4 years" end blurb.
Siren sounding, Warning, Warning...If this stuff is manufactured as it is supposed to be the shelf life is indefinite without degrading! How can silver suspended in water *alone* degrade over time pray tell?
Their product needs to come WITH a warning label - For silver product ignoramuses only...LOL.- Re: One more time, single particle s... kscmac
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This is a reply to # 2,118,824The only silver is the silver going from your bank account to theirs!! Putting CS( Colloidal Silver )into a refrigerator will cause fallout as the solubility limit will drop with the water temperature! I know! The water is in a "solid state" (i.e.frozen), this makes about as much sense as their marketing blurb!
- Re: One more time, single particle s... naturesniff
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This is a reply to # 2,118,877More accurate statement: A simple refrigerator test will reveal if your nano silver product has chemicals:
1. Just Freeze the product, it then let it thaw it out, if it has chemicals the chemicals will bind together with the silver nanoparticles and drop to the bottom of the vessel along with the chemicals. This will usually happen with the chemical low PPM Colloidal Silver products of 1000 PPM and under.
2. You can leave your Low Colloidal Silver PPM product it in the sun, and the suns rays will cause the nano silver chemicals to drop to the bottom of the dark amber colored vessel.
3. You can do both, place the solution in high heat conditions, refrigerate it for a few days then watch how the chemical content drops to the bottom of the glass vessel.
Now that you know the truth about your Low Quality Colloidal Silver PPM and chemically saturated product, you can then send it to ALS Laboratory to find out what chemicals are actually in your product.
Or you can choose to ignore the warnings and risk long term side effects
- Re: One more time, single particle s... naturesniff
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- Re: One more time, single particle s... naturesniff
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This is a reply to # 2,118,824"Colloidal Atoms do not reflect light, which explains why these products are crystal clear as water" end blurb., that is right all atoms do not reflect light, that explains why there is no color to the solution, along with the fact that there are no chemicals detected in the certificate.
Statement Fact not a “Blurb”:
The conduction electrons in will start to vibrate longitudinally as a response to the incident EM-radiation i.e. the electrons will move and agitate back and forth, as a reaction to the incident oscillating electrical field in the solution. It is this oscillation of conduction electrons in the silver solution that gives rise to the phase shifted reflected light of a conductor.
The plasma frequency is that frequency above which the electrons can no longer follow the oscillating incident E-field in the silver solution. This somewhat means that the E field is vibrating much too fast and the electrons will not respond anymore to that motion. If this happens, the E field and the light as well will no longer be reflected but it will pass through the medium in the solution.
We know the wavelength of visible light is about 10-6 m. The size of a typical atom is about 10-10 m, which is 10,000 times smaller than the wavelength of light. Since an atom is so much smaller than the wavelength of visible light, it’s much too small to change the way light is reflected in the silver solution, so the atoms cannot be observed an optical microscope.
A colloid can be ANYTHING suspended in a liquid solution, atoms can be suspended in a liquid solution, they can be attached to the water molecule its self and meet the scientific definition of a colloid. I’m LOLing at your senseless statement my self.
$200 dollar bottles? Where do you get that from? A 3000 PPM bottle starts around $33.00 vs a 2 oz bottle at $15 -28 (depending on who you buy it from).
Then a $58.00 Bottle of 3000 PPM can be diluted to 160 Bottles of 20 PPM that you recommend. It no wonder you guys are against this product, people would not have to make their own any more!
Ions and Atoms are way too different, Science knows for a fact that Atoms do no reflect light, Ions on the other hand may or may not. I do not know I do not care, what I care about is now drinking a bunch of chemicals and having the best effectiveness.
These people have taken production of Colloids to a much higher level, more than any other company. They truly offer PERFECT Colloidal Silver .
So you can laugh and ridicule all you want, but the joke is on you
- Re: One more time, single particle s... kscmac
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- Re: One more time, single particle s... ino
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- Re: One more time, single particle s... naturesniff
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- Re: One more time, single particle s... kscmac
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- Re: One more time, single particle s... naturesniff
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This is a reply to # 2,118,477Again, the smallest particle size measurable is 2 nm, done with the ICP method, there are no other instruments that can measure atoms in water, however it does not mean that they cannot be DETECTED.
The same ICP methods uses a Plasma Arc to "burn" up the particles into larger particles that can then be measured and verified.
Other known chemical tests will not detect anything, which explains the dogmatic stance from certain forum members.
As Gold2live.com explained to me, yes they had other belivers of the products post information that may have been slightly incorrect, however the website has updated information about the particle size.
Here is the Link to the Certification
http://www.gold2live.com/LAB-Tested-Colloids.html
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- Re: sinus infection/ post nasal drip naturesniff
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