Try typing "Turpentine health" or Turpentine candida" or "Kerosene cancer" into Google search and see what you get. Try downloading the 1899 Merck Medical Manual from the Project Gutenberg website and search it for turpentine and see how many hits you get. You'll lose count of the times it was medically advised to be ingested as a remedy for many diseases. Try reading Walter Last's Kerosene -- A Universal Healer for even more convincing evidence.
I take turpentine once a week as preventative maintenance for my body -- a teaspoon every week and it has wonderful effects. I take it because, at this amount and frequency, it protects the intestines and purifies the blood..
Of course everybody is entitled to their own beliefs. But it really surprises me that so many people so earnestly believe every recommendation that tumbles out from the medical standards committees and drugs research. They have also banned Lugol's Iodine and Borax as poisons long ago. Do you believe that too ?
I also use borax and lugol's iodine regularly. Been using them for over 7 years(at much higher orthomolecular dosages than the RDA) and, since starting to use these substances at "poisonous" dosages, I haven't caught flu or a cold or any infectious disease for over 7 years. And I cured my own systemic candida problems using them like this. I'm 63 y o with no aches and pains, heart good; I feel about 35 y o and I'm very active.
To me, it's very obvious why older medicine's views(who more honestly advised supplementing turpentine, LI and Borax) conflicts so heavily with modern medicine's views on turpentine, LI and borax. Modern medicine banned them as poisons because, even now, modern drugs simply cannot compete with turpentine, borax and LI in terms of their many health beneifits. So the drugs companies simply got rid of the competition by labeling these substances as poisons in order to sell more drugs and make more profit. Your choice if you want to believe all their propaganda without validating first.
So I'm afraid that's why you will never convince me that turpentine is a poison -- because I have used it for such a long while and I am well acquainted with its beneficial effects. If you don't believe what I say about turpentine and its effects on candida, then you will only ever be left clutching at your own fears about turpentine as a poison -- with still no permanent cure in sight for your own awful candida problems. And that is a very sad truth.
But I wish you good luck in your own continuing search for a candida cure.
Dvjorge...In your last post you say the following..." He sent me by email at least 30 or more papers, testimonies, etc about Turpentine, yet I haven't read any report of someone cured using it." You contradict yourself in this sentence. This person took the trouble to send you testimonies of cures and apparently you wont believe them or didn't even bother to read them as evidence.
Have another look at Walter Last's Kerosene -- A Universal Healer article (I wont post the link as I have already posted it several times already already in this stream). There's alot of evidence in this article about the healing aspect of Turpentine/Kerosene. Check the research and testamonial links etc at the bottom of this article -- that's why Walter Last recommends it. In his article, Walter Last says this about turpentine/kerosene;
"The use of these petroleum products is most widespread in poorer countries, including Russia, Eastern Europe and Africa. A recent study in Nigeria found that about 70 per cent of the population used petroleum products medicinally. The most common applications are for infections and infectious diseases, autoimmune diseases, cancer, arthritis and rheumatic diseases in general. Even the Rockefellers supposedly started their fortune by selling kerosene as a cancer cure before they found that chemotherapy was more lucrative."
Walter Last also concludes:
" ...Today, the Wikipedia page on kerosene states clearly and simply: "Ingestion of kerosene is harmful or fatal." Increasingly the most recent MSDSs no longer provide toxicity data so that people cannot see how relatively non-toxic kerosene is. Instead, only the warning remains that it can be fatal if it gets into the lungs.
"The acute oral toxicity of kerosene for rats is given as "LD50 > 5000 mg/kg"[low toxicity]. LD50 is the dose at which 50 per cent of the rats will die; in this case, more than 5 g/kg are required. In comparison, the LD50 of gum turpentine for rats is given as 5760 mg/kg [low toxicity]. The MSDS for Diggers Pure Gum Turpentine states: "Ingestion can cause nausea, vomiting and bladder irritation. Aspiration into lungs when swallowed or vomited may cause chemical pneumonitis which can be fatal"
"All of this is obviously in conflict with its use for hundreds of years as a trusted remedy, and is in conflict with the scientific toxicity information. In France, kerosene still appears in the official pharmacopoeia as huile de Gabian and is prescribed as a remedy for bronchitis, asthma and cystitis. Even the medical literature contains clinical studies by reputable researchers showing that kerosene is effective against cancer"
Isn't that clear enough evidence ? Walter Last is a well-respected healer who isn't in the habit of lying and who has written many books on curing candida and other diseases(see his book "Overcoming Candida, a Guide to Self healing"). But apparently, for some people, ths simply isn't good enough as proof.
You're perfectly entitled to your vew that turpentine is a poison. But for me, a regular user of turpentine, you only ever seem to have have one argument against supplementing turpentine(and it is greatly flawed) -- that medical research research says that turpentine is a poison. You already know my views on this. I've also been supplementing turpentine for a long time. So, according to your own peculiar reasoning, I've been using turpentine at poisonous dosages so I should really be dead, right ? Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you but I am still kicking and I appear to be in good health.
When you initially start using turpentine, start small and go slow. Start with drops and take a week or more to work up to the one teaspoon dosage per day for candida. And if you already have candida -- you certainly will probably get a considerable Herx or die off effect so adjust dosages accordingly and be patient. If you take too much turpentine initially and too quickly, then you will probably get laxative effects. Take one teaspoon a day(consecutively) for no more than 10 days and then stop for 10 days. The maintenance dose for health is to take a teaspoon of turpentine only once or twice a week.
I take turpentine in two ways -- one teaspoon of turpentine plus one teaspoon of molasses or raw honey mixed in the mouth with saliva and then chased down with a small amount of water. Take this just before meals so that it will be carried into the intestines with the food. This is a particularly good method for killing candida in the intestines. Or I just take one teaspoon of turpentine with a glass of water on an empty stomach -- where the turpentine gets quickly absorbed directly into the blood from the stomach with this method. This latter method is also better and more effective at curing other diseases outside the intestine and is a great way of purifying the blood.
Furthermore, I have never read any instance where anyone has ever been harmed while taking this protocol in the proper way.
I would just like to add that I am no longer willing to respond to any further questions or complaints of the ilk, "Eeeek!!....OmiGod...But turpentine is a poison!!...Eeeek!!" since I believe that I have adequately proved the case for turpentine/kerosene not being a poison in this stream.
I am also exhausted with all the arguing !!
But if anybody wants answers about turpentine -- other than "Eeeek!!....OmiGod...But turpentine is a poison!!...Eeeek!!" -- I will be happy to answer any questions.
Unfortunately, turpentine is a volatile and inflammable oil, so you cannot get turpentine sent to you from abroad. And if you cannot find a local source of natural gum turpentine in Brazil, then you should order pine oil as an essential oil from ebay.com or amazon.com. I live in the Philippines and also cannot order turpentine from abroad. So I just order the pine oil(essentail oil version) from ebay.com and it will ship abroad. This is what I take as a gum turpentine supplement.. My pine oil is made from pinus sylvestris pine trees. An example of pine essential oil on eboay.com is here:
What alot of people have missed from my initial posting at the start of this stream is that I also present the protease enzyme protocol, as well as the turpetine protocol, as particularly quick methods for getting rid of candida and bacterial biofilms in the gut.
So, for a change, let's talk about the protease enzyme option that I mentioned. Dr Peta Cohen has been using protease enzyme protocols very successfully against candida and candida biofilms. When a biofilm initially forms in the gut, its like a fibrin(protein) cage in the form of a micro-slime within the gut mucosa which protects the candida and bacteria residing in it from attack from anti-fungals and from the immune system. This is also a major reason for anti-candida protocols failing to get rid of all the candida and it just never goes away and a good reason why candida just keeps coming back. -- because other anti-candida protocols have no overt method for dissolving or digesting these fibrin biofilms. Futhermore, if these biofilms have had the chance to become mature -- as in people who have had candida for years and years -- then these biofilms become a much denser, hardened fibrin biofilm matrix -- which is like a fortress and is highly protective for the candida and much more difficult to get rid off -- like hardened bacterial plaque on teeth which is also constructed from biofilms.
Dr Peta Cohen has had great success getting rid of candida because of the incorporation of using anti-biofilm protease enzymes(nattokinase and lumbrokinase enzymes) in her protocols, together with heavy metal detox and all-natural anti-microbials including anti-fungals such as tea tree and oregano.
There is also a good product -- called Theramedix CDX -- which contains hemicellulase and chitinase(which dissolves the candida cell wall -- made of chitin) as well as containing plant based enzymes(bromelain and papain) for digesting and removing candida biofilms -- thus exposing the candida and leaving it naked and without protection against anti-fungals. This product has been very successful when taken outside mealtimes and used in an anti-candida protocol together with heavy metal detox.
What alot of people have missed from my initial posting at the start of this stream is that I also present the protease enzyme protocol, as well as the turpetine protocol, as particularly quick methods for getting rid of candida and bacterial biofilms in the gut.
So, for a change, let's talk about the protease enzyme option that I mentioned. Dr Peta Cohen has been using protease enzyme protocols very successfully against candida and candida biofilms. When a biofilm initially forms in the gut, its like a fibrin(protein) cage in the form of a micro-slime within the gut mucosa which protects the candida and bacteria residing in it from attack from anti-fungals and from the immune system. This is also a major reason for anti-candida protocols failing to get rid of all the candida and it just never goes away and a good reason why candida just keeps coming back. -- because other anti-candida protocols have no overt method for dissolving or digesting these fibrin biofilms. Futhermore, if these protective biofilms have had the chance to become mature -- as in people who have had candida for years and years -- then these biofilms become a much denser, hardened fibrin biofilm matrix -- which is like a fortress and is highly protective for the candida and much more difficult to get rid off -- like hardened bacterial plaque on teeth which is also constructed from biofilms.
Dr Peta Cohen has had great success getting rid of candida because of the incorporation of using anti-biofilm protease enzymes(nattokinase and lumbrokinase enzymes) in her protocols, together with heavy metal detox and all-natural anti-microbials including anti-fungals such as tea tree and oregano.
There is also a good product -- called Theramedix CDX -- which contains hemicellulase and chitinase(which dissolves the candida cell wall -- made of chitin) as well as containing plant based protein digesting or fibrinolytic enzymes(bromelain and papain) for digesting and removing candida biofilms -- thus exposing the candida and leaving it naked and without protection against anti-fungals and the immune system. This product has been very successful when taken outside mealtimes and used in an anti-candida protocol together with heavy metal detox. Heavy metals detox must always be included when removing biofilms -- because candida uses heavy metals to construct biofilms. Therefore these heavy metals will be released into the intestines when you disslove biofilms -- so to prevent their re-distribution throughout the body they must immediately be neutralized and removed using EDTA, Chlorella, Sodium thiosulfate etc.
One of the questions with turpentine is it able to reach the candida in the lower small intestines? The problem with a lot of antifungals is whether it will be effective throughout the whole Gi tract and not just the upper GI tract?
Theramedix CDX does not contain chitinase but does contain cellulose. Correct me if i'm wrong but I think chitin and cellulose are slightly different in structure. They might be similiar but not exactly the same in structure
Chitin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chitin
Cellulose:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulose
Chitinase:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chitinase
(Interesting that barley seeds contain chitinase)
So the question would be how really effective is cellulase with chitin if they are different in chemical stucture?
The complex cell wall of candida:
http://mmbr.asm.org/content/72/3/495.full
Another good method, but quite harsh, is to take laxtives once every 4 days. I would recommend Philip's Milk of Magnesia to get rid of candida throughout the intestines. Not only will MoM kill the candida with its high alkalinity but it also helps to dissolve and remove candida and bacterial biofilms rapidly.
But even taking a laxative(or enemas) is no guarantee of getting rid of candida permanently from the body. Enemas and laxatives will only act locally in the intestines to get rid of candida. So it really depends on whether your candida has already morphed or changed into the fungal or disseminated form of candida. If you already have this fungal form then it will infect the blood, tissues and organs. So will laxatives or enemas -- which will only ever have action in the intestines to get rid of candida -- also get rid of the fungal candida form which may already be in your blood? If you only have candida yeast in your intestines(and do not have the fungal form) then laxatives or nystatin will probably get rid of it. But if you've had candida for years and years then it is much more likely that you will also have the disseminated fungal form which infects the blood outside the intestines. Therefore laxatives, enemas or nystatin will not work and the candida will just keep returning -- because you still have the fungal infection outside the intestines which will act continuously to re-infect and re-populate the intestines again.
Read the blurb from the link to Theramedix. This blurb says that the cellulase also digests chitin. The most important aspect of Theramedix is that it contains fibrinolytic enzymes(protein digesting) that will successfully digest and dissolve biofilms. This digestive action completely de-cloaks and exposes the candida and other bacteria hiding in the biofilms which may then be more successfully killed and eradicated using anti-microbials like lugol's iodine, borax or turpentine. So who needs chitinase anyway ?
Also LI, borax and turpentine act throughout the body to kill fingus -- these nutrients also act bodywide to kill both the yeast and fungal forms of candida -- they don't just have action in the intestines. Nystatin only acts in the intestines to get rid of candida because it is so poorly absorbed into the body. That's why there are no IV or injectable forms of nystatin which also has quite a high toxicity profile.