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I was super wanting to eat apples with maple syrup and cinnamon with loads of sesame seeds and cacao nibs last night..
took everything in me not to cave it
I am feeling soooo down..
After 23 days on water over xmas just to have my tumour back full force..
IS BS
What is this Water Fasting autolyzes tumors
Mine is BENIGN
Please do not ask me about it...
I am tired of explaining myself..
just click my name and read my old threads... over xmas...
I am desperate to shrink this thing again.. BUT I cannot be Water Fasting every couple months to do it..
DO not tell me what supplements to take or suggest anything with out reading about what I have been taking...
I am desperate and doing Water Fasting again....
What other choice do I have??
READ past thread of what they want to do to me in surgery!
FUKING SCARY!!
Don't tell me I did not fast long enough..
I went from 135 to 113....
I was not able to go longer without being totally bedridden and weak,,,,
I am beginning to believe that water fasting is not going to rid me of this!!
I have been juicing 4 pounds of carrots every day since XMAS and eating a vegan meal for dinner
I have been vegan 20 years!
High raw 6-7 of those..
WTF else can I do??
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,044,621Don't give up! Maybe Water Fast is not what you need right now. I just found this guy on youtube, Robert Morse, ND. Very interesting guy, search for his channel, robertmorsend. He's got a whole bunch of videos. Start watching this first :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U996tx4pSmw&feature=BFa&list=PL77BFC6CB2EB4CD3...
Maybe grape diet for 40 days could help you to start. Try this, and never give up!
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This is a reply to # 2,044,764saw the vid thank you
most of my food is raw vegan for the past 6 years.. vegan 20 years all together...
Grape fast... organic grapes are impossible to find on a regular basis and cost a FORTUNE....
Conventional grapes are FULL of pesticides.. NO way Im gonna eat them
Since my Water Fast at xmas Ive been juicing 4-5 pounds of carrots a day as well as 12-15 oranges...
AND here I am..
TUMOR is back!
FUK ME!
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- Re: day 2 - beginning to believe wat... chrisb1
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This is a reply to # 2,044,621Rawrnr,
it can be exasperating if things do not go according to how it should go, but water-fasting does autolyze tumors and other growths and of that there is no doubt.
There are a number of variables here which we/you may not be aware of.
#1. Vegan and or raw vegan can still produce toxemia and feed your tumor, unless you eat only when hungry, and I mean genuinely hungry. Most of us have been conditioned into having three meals per day as the norm, but I eat only when there is a demand for food (usually lunchtime and Dinner) and sometimes just Dinner. Surplus food to an actual bodily demand for food, and regardless of its quality, will still produces toxemia and the basis of growths, boils, tumors and so on.
#2. How was your 23 days on water only conducted? because if improperly conducted it is a virtual waste of time, and results in no benefits to the body at all.
#3. In my view you will need to radically change your lifestyle habits, such as plentiful sleep/rest, some mild daily exercise, fresh air, a minimalistic quality plant-based diet, eaten only when genuinely hungry.
In this way, and in time, the body will strive to complete its drainage cycle or play-catch-up, and the tumor will be autolyzed.
After a few months of these lifestyle changes, and if I were you, I would only then go on an extended and properly conducted fast for UP TO 25 days, and your health issues will be resolved.
Fasting only allows the body to heal and cleanse itself more efficiently than while eating, but lifestyle issues are more important pre and post-fast, than the fast itself.
Chrisb1.
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This is a reply to # 2,044,822CHris....
Don't tell me vegan and raw vegan produce tumors... what else am I supposed to eat?
I have been vegan 20 years....
If my body is not clean from this mostly raw vegan diet how the hell do ppl who eat a regular diet alive??
I am doing the 801010 diet... this means LOTS of calories from fruit. I also work out 2 hours a day and NEED to eat
Since my last 23 day water fast, I have been juicing 4 - 5 pounds of carrot juice a day as well as 12-15 oranges...
Been drinking juice all day and eating only once a day.. a BIG meal however, because I am hungry - meal is Fruit based... and mostly mono..
Some pumpkin and sunflower seeds too...
AND this thing STILL grew back!!
MY 23 day Water Fast was me lying around most of the day doing nothing....
I rebounded a bit in the beginning... I lost a HEAP of weight and looked like a skeleton!!
I was not working and at home.
I fainted twice... getting up too quickly.
WEnt from 135 to 113... Im 5;9"... Chris, you can see my pix on facebook... I am pretty toned and 113 was scary looking...
THe tumour did shrink.. as I was not able to see nor feel, it...
NOW I can do both!
:(
THe lifestyle change you are asking me to do is pretty much how I live..
Besides eating as much as I desire...
I refuse to starve myself, and need a LOT of food... maybe 3000 calories a day to sustain my weight and exercise regime... ITS all RAW calories with the odd cooked potato/broccoli - maybe 1-2 times a week..
You think if I did pretty much what Im doing and THEN do a 25 day Water Fast my issue will be resolved?
I did 23 days on water over xmas...
IT did shrink LOADS.. but came back when I started eating
I gotta eat man!!
At this point I am FED UP with this Water Fasting is the cure all.. but I don't know what else to do.... mo only other option is surgery... where they take not only the BENIGN tumor out but all the parts of organs it is touching too..
NO chance in HELLL I want that!
I have also been taking a SHIT LOAD of supplements (12-15)... my older posts mention which ones...
I also did Miracle-Mineral-Supplement which really f***ed me up.
I don't know what else to do!!!
This Water Fast I am hoping to go at LEAST 10 days,,, will push it to 20 ir possible... I am working full time in a demanding job... I teach Phys Ed in high school.... I am off for march break now, and just hope I can continue while going to work and exercising with my kids...
I am wondering if I can add coconut oil to my fast to give me energy to do my job, but still stay in ketosis...
I want to fast as long as possible, how can I extend this water fast once I return to work and have to teach fitness classes?
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This is a reply to # 2,044,848Hello again....
Can't stop thinking about ur case and all the evening ur case was at the back of my mind.. and now b4 going to bed i decided to read ur post again and just one thought crossed my mind (though not sure whether it is the right one). U said that recently u are mainly on fruits and it get most of the calories from that. So the question is how many months are u on that type of diet for?..
I do not remember when and where but I read that Sugar (perhaps even the natural one in excessive amounts esp) could feed tumor. And also I pay attention about right combining of food and i read in one of the books that every day we need to consume only particular amounts of sugars (even very healthy ones) coz extra amounts of it (as well as extra proteins) can do more harm than good to our bodies.
So I am thinking, may be u should stop being on fruits only (i read that 2-3 fruits a day supplyes Enough sugars for our bodies to function properly) or mainly and stick to veggie stuff mainly... and raw veg juices with greens instead? What about candida in ur system? Coz it could be a case if u eat so much sugary foods....
Also I read that if u eat nuts then it is better to soak them over night (at least 7 h) preferably in a dark place and ideally we need to add just the very bit of salt into the water to neutralise something which nuts contain to make them not only digestable but also let them or better to say all their vitamines and mineals to be absorbed fully (that is why we need a bit of salt in it)... Alos, as i have stated, make ur own sesame milk..
So think it over.. and eat some porriages too - like brown rice, oat meals, lentils (very healthy)..
Nadia
ps: I do think ur message 'frose' this forum a big time coz it seems like there are no answerers on ur questiosn coz we all thought being vegan is what is the perfect way to be healthy but it seems may be not really... but listen to me... do think over about cutting on sugars and eat more porriages (ones a day).. I am very sure there is a way out of this puzzled case for u. Please do not give up coz it CAN be sorted! :)
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This is a reply to # 2,044,848rawrnr,
I understand your exasperation and frustration, but the point I was trying to emphasize is that regardless of the quality of the diet, it is of no benefit if the body is unable to properly digest and assimilate it.
This means eating a quality diet only when genuinely hungry, which can mean just one meal per day. This makes a huge difference to health and elimination of waste in time.
You sound to be very anxious and stressed, and this will also add to your health problems by affecting digestion, resulting in toxemia, and therefore supporting the bodily ecology for your tumor to survive and thrive.
Please try and approach your health issues with a calmer frame of mind, as this will really help enormously.
Chrisb1.
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This is a reply to # 2,044,621Hmm... Actually I heard that Water Fasting is Not the best choice to get rid of tumors. It Could be the choice but not the best one.
All u need now is NUTRITION to boost ur immume system and the best one is to go just for the right eating (mainly raw or at least 60% and avoid animal protein).
Here is a few links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xkyMAYmrQY&feature=related
Cancer can be cured!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivgPRzKtfkk
Testemonial Plant based diet (cancer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYpafipJyDE&feature=related
Milk (also see in the net how to make raw sesame seed milk which contains 8-10 more calcium than in caw milk.. i personally add b4 blendering some slices of raw carrot, raw ginger and beetroot and greens may be and then blender it all and then strain.. but still u need to see the recipe in the net).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7vWbV9FPo_Q
Melanie Joy - Carnism: The Psychology of Eating Meat
.. And also make sure u have proper levels of vit D in ur blood!! If u had tumor and now worry that it would be back again then the level of ur vit D in ur blood should be 80 for sure (in other cases it is between 50-80 in average but not more then 100).. it is better totake vit D3 either in a liquid form or in a softgel form (easier for the body to absorb)... Also make sure u take it like 1000iu per 15 kg of ur body weight (33 pounds) means if u are 75 kg (165 pounds) then u need to take daily 5000iu (as I do).
I will send u a personal message just to give u extra info which will be very helpful to u - i just know it. :) :)
Nadia
Ps: just have noticed that i cant send u any messages through here :/... anyway, let me know if u need extra motivation (in a form of very valuable info) by emailing me - nadia_spiridonova@hotmail.co.uk :)
- Re: day 2 - beginning to believe wat... rawrnr
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This is a reply to # 2,044,837I was taking VIT D...
Large doses as well as a bunch of other supplements...
I am also vegan 20 years and high high raw vegan the last 6..
and STILL I got this thing!
Please read the above post to Chris..
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This is a reply to # 2,044,849Hello.. :)
Please have a look at this link regarding ur case...
http://drpuven.blogspot.ru/2011/01/spirulina-health-benefits.html
Nadia
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This is a reply to # 2,045,951Thank you
I have been taking spirulina and chorella and vitamineral green form healthforce for YEARS!
I know what it is now and how I got it!!
Look down below the post day 3....
a woman here figured it all out!!
I did this to myself!
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This is a reply to # 2,046,382Ok, just have found...
This plant has anti tumor effect so may be u can find it somewhere and it tastes not that bad it was said there.
This tree is low and is called graviola in Brazil, guanabana in Spanish and has the uninspiring name “soursop” in English. The fruit is very large and the subacid sweet white pulp is eaten out of hand or, more commonly, used to make fruit drinks, sherbets and such.
I know u do Not have cancer.. it is just was said in that article that it had anti tumor effect so I thought why not to let u know. :)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=359371634171514&set=a.223064071135605....
It is FB link.
Nadia
:)
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This is a reply to # 2,044,621Hi Rawmr,
You are aware that cancer and other parasites thrive off of sugar, right?
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/04/20/sugar-dangers.aspx
Sometimes a raw vegan diet is not as effective as you think it would be. An over excessive amount of Sugar will produce cloudy thoughts and fatigue. If your diet isn't corrected when you begin eating again nor will your health be. It is wise to introduce some raw, good quality animal products into your diet if the raw vegan thing isn't working.
Have you heard of the Budwig Protocol? They have a free eBook for download that contains crucial information on healing diseases of all kinds, http://www.budwigcenter.com/
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This is a reply to # 2,044,985I suggest you start adressing possible candida overgrowth and parasites. I was terribly sick, almost at death's door, and went on a fast. Tried fresh vegetable juices fasting, and water. I didn't see any progress until adressing those issues. Fasting alone won't cure any parasite infestation or candida overgrowth, and those are often linked to cancers and tumors. Also, those conditions very often go hand in hand with a congested and weak liver.
If you have the willpower to continue some fasting, I would recommend vegetable juices only, with carrots as the main ingredient. Include some beets daily. Lots of greens. Throw in some raw garlic, curcuma, Black-Walnut tincture.
Start making homemade goat milk kefir and drink up to 4 cups a day.
Consider doing coffee enemas daily, especially during the fast, and liver flushes.
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