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My Grapefruit-Seed-Extract tablets are supposed to be equivalent to 12.5 drops of GSE. This seems to be based on the amount of Grapefruit-Seed-Extract contained in drops vs tablets. However I wonder if the tablets are as effective as the drops. Is the Grapefruit-Seed-Extract in the drops more available?
Anyone taken the two and have any thoughts on it? I would like to take the tablets to avoid the taste of the drops.
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This is a reply to # 2,014,148Are you referring to nutribiotic?The tablets are processed junk compared to the drops. I remember chewing up a tablet and could barely taste the GSE. The drops are much stronger. In the past i've put some drops in a empty gelatin capsule/you can mix it with olive oil. Source naturals is a good brand and their GSE is in a bottle...so no plastic leaching.
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This is a reply to # 2,014,187Interesting to read your comment regarding the lack of taste of Grapefruit-Seed-Extract in Nutribiotic tablets. I assume by 'taste' you mean bitterness. I know they used to make Grapefruit-Seed-Extract from grapefruit seeds alone, but now use pulp as well. I'm only guessing, but perhaps when they first released their Grapefruit-Seed-Extract product it was 100% seed extract and came in drops only. This may explain the bitterness of drops. Perhaps the tablets are made more from the pulp and this may explain why they are less bitter.
Since the effectiveness of GSE is most likely due to the added preservative and not the grapefruit seed (or pulp) extract itself, I wonder if it matters that the tablets are not bitter, assuming it is the grapefruit seeds causing the bitterness and not the preservative.
You may be right in saying the drops are better. Just not sure that taste alone is a good indicator of effectiveness.
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Interesting that you stated that GSE might have a added preservative. I just checked out Wikipedia on GSE and it was talking about a lot of GSE products being contaminated with a synthetic preservative it in. Wikipedia was stating that natural GSE might have no detectable anti-microbial effects at all. The anti-microbial effects might be more related to the synthetic preservative in the GSE. So there might be some question of this synthetic preservative having the ability to inhibit the efficiency of our friendly bacteria as well? Not to mention how a synthetic preservative could affect someones health in the long run.
So maybe the main benefits that your receiving from "natural" GSE is just the nutrients in it( vitamin C, bioflavs etcc), not necessarily the anti-microbial activity. That just makes me wonder about a lot of cross contamination of chemicals that could be in other products that have active ingredients as well. One thing I learned working as a Vitamin Manager is that some companies can use harsh chemicals when extracting the active ingredients from plants/or just processing in general ...hexane etc....
So this requires further investigation of calling up some of these companies and trying to find out if there is this synthetic preservative in the product or not. The problem with some of these companies is that they will not disclose all the information that you want to know. Sometimes they will say its proprietary information. Proprietary meaning that they will CTA (cover their A**).
I like how citricidal says that one tablet is equal to 4 drops. Is this before they processed it or after they processed it. The product might not be equivalent to four drops by the time the tablet has been compressed, processed and all the binders and fillers have been added to affect its absorption. Some tablets can contain vegetable coating/lubricant, which may contain some petroleum derivatives in it. Ever wonder how some of those tablets get nice and shiny....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapefruit_seed_extract
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This is a reply to # 2,014,195
Interesting that you stated that GSE might have a added preservative. I just checked out Wikipedia on GSE and it was talking about a lot of GSE products being contaminated with a synthetic preservative it in. Wikipedia was stating that natural GSE might have no detectable anti-microbial effects at all. The anti-microbial effects might be more related to the synthetic preservative in the GSE. So there might be some question of this synthetic preservative having the ability to inhibit the efficiency of our friendly bacteria as well? Not to mention how a synthetic preservative could affect someones health in the long run.
So maybe the main benefits that your receiving from "natural" GSE is just the nutrients in it( vitamin C, bioflavs etcc), not necessarily the anti-microbial activity. That just makes me wonder about a lot of cross contamination of chemicals that could be in other products that have active ingredients as well. One thing I learned working as a Vitamin Manager is that some companies can use harsh chemicals when extracting the active ingredients from plants/or just processing in general ...hexane etc....
So this requires further investigation of calling up some of these companies and trying to find out if there is this synthetic preservative in the product or not. The problem with some of these companies is that they will not disclose all the information that you want to know. Sometimes they will say its proprietary information. Proprietary meaning that they will CTA (cover their A**).
I like how citricidal says that one tablet is equal to 4 drops. Is this before they processed it or after they processed it. The product might not be equivalent to four drops by the time the tablet has been compressed, processed and all the binders and fillers have been added to affect its absorption. Some tablets can contain vegetable coating/lubricant, which may contain some petroleum derivatives in it. Ever wonder how some of those tablets get nice and shiny....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapefruit_seed_extract
- Re: GSE tablets/GSE questionable!!! Cheshire77
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This is a reply to # 2,014,322When you say that one tablet equals 4 drops you must be referring to 4 drops of Citricidal professional strength. Each tablet is equal to 12-13 drops of Nutribiotic Grapefruit-Seed-Extract liquid concentrate, the popular product most people use.
Regarding the preservative issue: I have read a fair bit about it and I just accept that the only Grapefruit-Seed-Extract products that work have preservative added, and it is the preservative that is the active ingredient. Initially this put me off. However I'm now satisfied that the preservative is pretty safe to take orally. As far as I can tell, Grapefruit-Seed-Extract has a pretty good safety record.
BTW, I started a thread on GSE and preservative 2 years ago you might be interested in: //www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1552379
Regarding GSE affecting our 'good' bacteria, on one website (http://www.dreamhawk.com/gse.htm) I read the following: "Fortunately GSE does not seem to disturb beneficial gut bacteria. One study which tested the effect of GSE on eczema patients (who frequently have fungal and bacterial infections) found that it significantly inhibited Candida albicans and E. Coli, but left the important Bifidobacteria unchanged, and only slightly reduced the Lactobacilli."
This is a pretty good source of FAQ about Nutribiotic GSE, even if it is a little biased.
http://www.nutriteam.com/faq
I started the tablets yesterday and have already experienced die-off, so they certainly have an active ingredient. How effective they are compared to drops remains unclear.
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This is a reply to # 2,014,516Do you think your experiencing die off or just experiencing the side effects of the preservative/chemicals in the GSE. Is there really anything in GSE that would cause cell membrane leakage(Die-off). Sounds like GSE acts as a inhibitor rather than causing cell membrane leakage. Its possible You might being experiencing an inflammation response from some of the chemicals in GSE?
Its interesting how much more bitter the drops are than the tablets. I could easily chew up one tablet without gagging. 10- 12 drops would be so bitter I could not tolerate it. So it raises a question of their processing methods. I've tested out some pomegranate extracts where some capsules actually tasted and looked like pomegranate and others tasted and looked like processed dirt. Some comapanies process the hell out of their herbs that you don't taste much of the active ingredients. Another example is echinacea: I've tasted some echinacea that will make your tongue num. Others tasted highly processed. Its interesting how certain active ingredients of herbs can have unique taste or sensation of the tongue.
Anyways, I hope GSE helps. Keep us posted with your long term results.
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This is a reply to # 2,014,148This PDF has good information about the antibacterial/antifungal activity of Citricidal.
I would take both, tablets and liquid alternating them.
http://www.naturalingredient.org/files/Citricidal%20Brochure.pdf
Jorge.- Re: GSE tablets Cheshire77
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This is a reply to # 2,014,249Thanks Jorge. I have added the pdf to my Grapefruit-Seed-Extract resources list. Interesting data, but I take a lot of what Nutribiotic says with a pinch of salt. It's not that I think their published study results are necessarily wrong, but more that they have probably selectively reported only the positive results.
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