When you are week, NB would not probaly work for you. Dr.Lam warns about doing cleansing, Amalgam replacing and such. All these are additional stess on already weak system. You need to get stronger. When the body is exhausted vitamins in the food are not enough. Somebody mentioned charging car battery with a 9V one.

For me Lam protocol did great. I never had crash or some other type of backfire. For some people the protocol was not that good.

Later, when my recovery curve went into saturation, I started new research and found works of Ray Peat. I have added to my menu what Dr peat suggests:
-dairy (ice cream, milk, curd, cheese_)
-fructose (honey, added Sugar to tea)
-vitamin A 15 000 IU
-vitamin D
-fresh carrots with coconut oil
-use coconut oil for cooking.

It worked really well.

High level of serotonin and low level of dopamine would also cause brain fog. (dopamine and serotonine are antagonists). Mine serum serotonin was two times higher than upper normal limit. This explains why i have low testosterone. High level of serotonin causes upset stomach or IBS.

I am looking for an effective way (no prescription drugs) to reduce serotonine and raise dopamine.

Klauss.

I personally read Lam's website and just didn't really like what I saw. But I never tried his protocol so I am judging from afar, if it worked for some people then more power to them. If my judgments of either protocol are wrong I would encourage others to correct me - this is a collaborative space.

My concerns with Lam's protocol:
-It does not address digestion directly
-does not address metabolism directly
-1 size fits all recommendations
-seems to focus on the adrenals - but not on what could be causing adrenal fatigue.

It seems to be that AF can happen on its own, or be triggered by other bodily weaknesses that if left ignored will inhibit AF recovery.

I like NB because:
-focuses on oxidation/metabolism
-focuses on digestion
-focuses on entire body health (more so atleast)
-allows for individualized programs (sort of)
-allows for addressing heavy metals

If you are flush with money I see no reason why you could not combine the two. A note about NB is that many people feel worse before they feel better - this is tough though because you don't know if you feel bad because of a detox reaction or if the protocol isn't working. Also, some of the supplements recommended in NB like SBF, thym-adren, and maybe megapan? contain glandulars that can be really stimulating and should be avoided by some of us. I would encourage you to eliminate the glandulars and try the rest of the protocol again. Just my 2 cents though - I am not expert!

Lalobear-When I had my free consult with Dr. Lam he told me that if I had a mineral deficiency his program would not work. That's why I went with NB and am very happy that I did because all minerals were low except 2.

Lalobear,

I'm not specifically on Lam's protocol, but I have taken some of the basics from it. The vitamin C was really important for me, but I never take more than 2-3000 mg a day. The body gets C from other sources too, and just has to work harder to eliminate what it doesn't need. Also I don

I take it for a few weeks, then I take a week off to let my body reset and readjust. I also get my C from a whole food supplement, and not the synthetic ascorbic acid. He is right on when he talks about resets and honeymoons. I've learned to tune in to my body. If I start feeling even the slightest difference in my symptoms I will immediately back off of supplements for a few days and "stand aside" as Lam would say.

I tried the pantethine/B5, but I felt horrible on it so I didn't try to force it. Supplement wise all I take is the C right now, and I doubled my intake of Sea Salt . I've learned that even if someone says a nutrient is good for you, the body is not always ready for it, and it's not good to force it.

I also agree with Seattle about Lam not including digestion. I found out the hard way that rigorous colon cleansings of candida and parasites, as well as Liver Flushes are detrimental if one has severe AF, but it is very important to keep the colon clean and to support the liver and kidneys. When needed, I do gentle warm water enemas. I also eat a good amount of brown basmati rice for bulk and fiber to keep things moving, as well as making sure to drink enough spring water. For my liver, I lightly season my soups and meats with tumeric, and I take milk thistle- which is very gentle on the liver. I also eat artichokes once a week.

The best thing I do for my body is that I include alot of homemade soups. I attribute these soups to patching up my leaky gut and improving my digestion, as well as providing me with the essential minerals I needed to move out of near failure. My body would not accept any supplements or digestive enzymes, so I stopped trying to force it and treated it the old fashioned way- hearty, organic soups and food in the right combinations and portions.

As far as NB goes, it was too much for me in the beginning, and I believe it still is even though I'm feeling much better now. The saunas, coffee enemas, and glandulars crashed me severely. I couldn't handle the kelp, and the paramin made me anxious instead of relaxed. The only thing I could handle was the limcomin, but that's pretty much like a multi mineral supplement. So I opted to get my minerals via the Sea Salt and the soups. My body was much more receptive to this approach.

You've got to be strong to handle the detoxes of NB. I will definitely get back on it when I feel stable enough to detox copper etc.

I'm not going to lie, using food and minimal amounts of supplements seems like the long way, but I've found that it really is the best thing for someone who is into advanced AF . It's like weaning a baby- you aren't going to go and feed the baby a salad first. Even though salad is wonderful and full of nutrients, the baby's stomach is not ready for it and it would do more harm than good. Later on, when his system ready he will benefit from the salad.

Bottom line, less is more. I think we don't give our own internal pharmacies and healing abilities as much credit as they deserve. When my body is rejecting protocols and supplements, I see it as if it were saying "will you just leave me alone for a minute and let me do what I need to do!?" So that's what I do and I always see improvement, even if it's just a baby step forward.

Lam was great for helping me understand the fundamentals of AF and Wilson was great for helping me understand where my imbalances are, but there's no one size fits all plan. You've got to take a little bit from here or there and create your own plan that works for you. Your body will let you know what it needs in its own stages, and sometimes it doesn't need anything but good nutrition, rest and for you to relax and leave it alone for a minute.