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Some of you may be interested in the anti-psychiatry movement, with authors such as R.D. Laing and Thomas Szasz. I'm now reading Thomas Szasz' "The Myth of Mental Illness". It offers a whole new perspective, from my point of view, on psychiatry. When you start to read the history of it, you start to see how mental illness really doesn't exist. Very interesting! Highly recommended!- Re: Anti-Psychiatry MrCuddly
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This is a reply to # 1,953,876I couldn't agree more that the vast majority of mental disorders are dreamed up by committee and phony with zero basis in science. But you won't convince me that schizophrenia, bi-polar, autism, etc aren't real diseases or disorders.
The brain is by far the most intricate, complex part of the body. And to say there are no mental disorders is to say it's the one part of the body that can't be injured, deformed, nutrient deprived, toxified, chemically altered etc. Does anyone believe that?
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You may have a point about the brain being an organ just like other organs, but I think Szasz is onto something. You should read the history of psychiatry. Charcot created an illness out of people parodying misbehavior and was heard admitting in an informal conversation that it's "les choses genitales." In other words, sexua| repression. I could definitely see that. I'm looking forward to reading more of Szasz's books because he unveils what is a callous, cynical industry.- Re: Anti-Psychiatry North Star
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This is a reply to # 1,956,907Actually, I pretty much completely agree with Szasz. Malingering is like saying that mental illness is psychosomatic, and it is, for, as we know, all illness is psychosomatic (mind-body medicine). Shamans know that mental illness pretty much doesn't exist.
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This is a reply to # 1,953,876Below is an excellent review of the book you are promoting was published in 1984. In fact at Amazon about 50% of the reviewers had similar opinions. You might also be interested in the fact that Szasz also changed his mind about this topic during his career.
The real cause of mental illness is trans-mediumship. You and everyone else has the ability to allow other beings, both in and out of body to enter and use/control your reality. It is what's behind multiple personality disorder and many other afflictions. An excellent examples is when you do or say something and you immediately tell yourself "why did I just do that?" It's because you as spirit weren't grounded and you as spirit were somewhere else while another being was taking control of your reality. Charles Manson, Thomas Edison, George W. Bush are but a few good examples of trans-mediums. You can channel "good" entities and "bad" entities - it makes no difference.
Learn grounding and you the eternal spirit can come in and control your reality the way you desire and not the way that others desire for you.
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1.0 out of 5 stars The Myth of Thomas Szasz,February 8, 1998 By A Customer
This review is from: The Myth of Mental Illness: Foundations of a Theory of Personal Conduct (Revised Edition) (Paperback)I wish I could believe that this book was a hilarious parody, a deliberate reductio ad absurdum of the worst anti-psychiatric cliches of the '60s. Unfortunately, Szasz has built a career on denying that mental illness exists, so I must assume that he actually believes this. He expounds a largely fictitious "history" of psychiatry (he seriously seems to believe that Freud and the psycho-analysts invented mental illness, ignoring the fact that all known cultures, back to the Ancient Greeks, have had a concept of mental illness) in order to claim that mental illness is just a myth invented by wicked psychiatrists.The more astute may wonder what Szasz makes of those inconvenient people who report hallucinations, delusions, agonizing depression, etc., etc. Being a deeply compassionate and humanitarian person, Szasz simply accuses them of malingering (yes, he actually says this). He appears to think that people with schizophrenia, depression, bi-polar disorder, and so forth should just "pull themselves together". I found myself wondering if Szasz had ever actually met, let alone listened to, anyone with a mental illness.
Yes, psychiatry, like other forms of medicine, often needs criticism, and has a history of abuse of power behind it. But no-one believes that the solution to abuse of power in other forms of medicine is to declare that bodily illnesses are a "myth" invented by doctors, and that those who complain of broken legs are malingerers. I can only assume that Szasz's fame is due to a stunning amount of popular ignorance and misinformation about mental illness. Having experienced a mental illness (clinical depression) myself, I have to say that Szasz's book adds insult to injury.
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I have not red Szasz's book, but I also believe that mental illness does not exist. But this is a question of definition. Most people understand the term to mean literally "an illness of the mind", and as such this is a illusion. If we have a biochemical disorder that interferes with the synthesis of feel-good neurotransmitters - such as serotonin - then we are not going to be happy and content but these feelings are the results of a physiological illness and not a "mental Illness".
It is quite common in medicine to confuse symptoms with causes.
People find it much easier to accept that Schizophrenia and Bipolar Disorder are physical diseases. But most people find it difficult to believe that depression, anxiety attacks, Post Traumatic Stress Disorders PTSD, or OCD are physical diseases. Most of these have powerful psychological consequences and hence are seen as "mental" rather than physiological.
The traditional professions dealing with "mental Illness" - such as psychiatrists and psychologists - have an ambivalent view of mental illness. Psychiatrists believe that it is physiological; otherwise they would not be prescribing drugs. But drugs are so ineffective in "curing" "mental illness (see here), that they have to refer their patients to "psychologists - who mainly believe that mental illness is "psychological" problem, which also is a misconception.
There are in fact many "silent diseases" that can cause "mental illness". Fortunately the most common silent disease affecting our minds is hypoglycemia, so that depression, anxiety attacks and a host of other common mood disorders (classed as "mental illness") can be treated without recourse to drugs and/or psycho-babble. See Gyland.
Thus yes, mental illness does not exist, but certain diseases that affect our mind do exist. It is a matter of people becoming more educated as to what causes "mental illness". This is what this web site is all about.
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This is a reply to # 1,953,876I agree with McCuddly on this.
I do feel and have long felt though that things like personality disorders are just noticing some people have common traits which they then turn into a disorder.
I also think Dr Peter Briggin is onto something though in his view of how to treat these.
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3APeter%20Breggin&field-...
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I also like a hometown activist I known, General Bruce a schizophrenic and a wonderful person caring and involved whose views of what he calls a peace army's view of healing the mentally ill.
Check out a YouTube video and definitely his site.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLL2_IOjdBs
http://redpeacecross.com/
I do have the injustice sensitivity he speaks of and that is how I met him,. I don't have schizophrenia but I do have Depression and a brother with schizophrenia.
do check out my steps to healing schizophrenia on here as well //www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1631168#i
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"When you start to read the history of it, you start to see how mental illness really doesn't exist."
I have seen an 'anti-psychiatry' film recently. It might give the impression that mental ilnesses don't exist, as you say. I'm sorry, but mental ilnesses are real. The fact that we are not treating them corespondingly is another issue.- Re: Anti-Psychiatry UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,957,433Yah i like Szasz but.....i guess hes saying they blow it out of proportion and diagnose anyone with a quirky personality trait, which they no doubt do as coffee addiction and something else strange are in the DMS IV. The take of biomedical doctors is-vaccines/environmental toxins/nutritional deficiencies can cause a whole host of mental problems. Google Abram Hoffer.
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This is a reply to # 1,957,449Yeah, I am very familiar with Abram Hoffer. I do see that side of it... I am just sorting through paradigms and experimenting with Szasz's theories. They make a lot of sense in a lot of ways. I am curious as to how they might fit in with some of the alternative medicine theories on treating mental illness or "mental illness."
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