>>> Listing your friends lends weight?

Nope, not at all. Was referring to altercations past in which Hveragerthi referenced "wombat and the wombettes" and assumed that a disagreement was the result of alliances rather than the issue(s) at hand. Guilt by association, ya know. If you don't get it, that's not my problem.

And just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, the definition of "gentleman" is as well. There are a lot of folks that would disagree with you on that one.

And, uhhhhh... did you notice that H is threatening legal action against the webmaster????????

That makes it my business. That makes it everyone's business.

Have a nice day, doc.

try to edit your posts before you actually post. Nice little additions there~

once again, have a nice day!

When you go on a crusade to discredit others like James has and now you yourself doc10, when you call people liars and fools for following and supporting a protocol that has brought relief and saved you from chronic pain and a trip to the cutters to have your organs removed,like James has for years now, you will be challenged, to do any less would be a disservice to your self and others.

Here's the best definition of a Gentleman I've seen:

The True Gentleman is the man whose conduct proceeds from good will and an acute sense of propriety and whose self-control is equal to all emergencies; who does not make the poor man conscious of his poverty, the obscure man of his obscurity, or any man of his inferiority or deformity; who is himself humbled if necessity compels him to humble another; who does not flatter wealth, cringe before power, or boast of his own possessions or achievements; who speaks with frankness but always with sincerity and sympathy; whose deed follows his word; who thinks of the rights and feelings of others rather than his own; and who appears well in any company; a man with whom honor is sacred and virtue safe. - John Walter Wayland

Everybody gets to judge everything for themselves. If you think person X fits the description, great. If not, great also. I don't much care for what other people think, cuz most folks is wrong - why else would they be in the messes they'z in, iff'n they's so smart to begin with ?

And to all you leadfoot drivers out there....... where the heII you goin so fast to get to, driving so poorly ? Got something important to do ? Nah. Slow the fk down.