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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,825,753Here is the CDC site for vaccine ingredients and additives.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-ta...
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-ta...
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,825,822I saw that and posted it below.
But how the heck is the ordinary person to know what all those things are? And how do we know that CDC is really listing all the ingredients?- Re: Look up individual components in... spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,825,827If you want to know what these ingredients are, I would suggest getting some chemistry and biology books from your local library, or if you trust internet information, simply google the ingredients. Personally, I would trust a chemistry book, over an internet site any day, as there is no agenda with a text book, just information.
It comes down to who you trust, (as I think you pointed out in a previous post). I don't trust Conspiracy sites, or propaganda sites, as the information is not correct, and delivered in such a way, that it tries to elicit an emotional response, and the promoters have an agenda.
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This is a reply to # 1,825,833"It comes down to who you trust, (as I think you pointed out in a previous post). I don't trust Conspiracy sites, or propaganda sites, as the information is not correct, and delivered in such a way, that it tries to elicit an emotional response, and the promoters have an agenda."
CDC is a propaganda and "conspiracy" website for sure. - Re: Look up individual components in... Mira528
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This is a reply to # 1,825,833The given in the OP provides links to research articles and government websites, not emotional agenda-laden writings.
Here's an example:
http://www.novaccine.com/vaccine-ingredients/results.asp?sc=169
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This is a reply to # 1,825,842This website has an agenda, and is an anti-vaccine website. So I do not trust the information presented there, unless I can verify its credibility elsewhere, where there is no agenda.
Whether to vaccinate or not, is an individual choice, and should remain that way. Those who choose to vaccinate, take risks, those who choose not to vaccinate, take risks. What people don't have the right to do, is endanger the lives of others.
If the anti-vaccine promoters have to rely on lying, to try and push their agenda, then their cause is lost.
Lying is exactly what they are doing, IMO.
I know my chemistry and biology, so the lies of the anti-vaccine promoters are easy to spot. I would encourage everyone to do their homework, and not get carried away with the emotive lies of those with an agenda.
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This is a reply to # 1,825,851"Lying is exactly what they are doing, IMO."
I suppose the AMA, FDA, Medical doctors, dentists, vaccine-makers, and pharmaceutical companies are always 100% honest with us?- Re: Look up individual components in... spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,825,860I doubt that very much, and have never suggested it either.
I'm lucky in that I know many scientists personally, and have worked in the government sector for many years, so I'm fully aware that there is corruption, particularly on a corporate level.
This doesn't mean that all scientists, doctors, or government departments are corrupt, but it does mean that all information should be questioned, and preferably independently verified.
From my experience the majority of scientists and researchers are honest people, and are interested in the data, not the agenda.
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Yes, that is right. Pro-vaccine and mainstream medicine sites always tell the truth and anti-vaccine site and other sites that warn about mainstream drugs are always liars and conspiracy sites.
Sarcasm off, actually mainstream medicine has largely been a conspiracy from day one. See:
Modern Medicine: How Healing Illness became Managing Illness for Profit
Of course, one could always dismiss my site as a conspiracy site and thus turn my thoroughly researched article into just another pack of lies . . .
BTW, good finds on the links you have been posting - particularly the one about the warning about allergies to aspartame and the vaccine I listed.
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This is a reply to # 1,825,842Sweeping generalizations mean nothing and are used as a red herring to distract.
Here's an example. It's the first link from the link above.
1. "BCHealth Files: Typhoid Vaccine,"
""Who should not get the oral vaccine? Speak with a doctor or nurse if you have: had a life-threatening reaction to a previous dose of typhoid vaccine, or any component of the vaccine including aspartame." "
No Author, British Columbia Ministry of Health -- 10/1/2007
http://www.healthlinkbc.ca/healthfiles/hfile41j.stm
How is this propaganda? (Unless you think that government pro-vaccine websites are propaganda).
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This is a reply to # 1,825,833The link given in the OP gives ingredients of vaccines and includes links to sites like the FDA, university sites, etc.
Here's an example - info about Measles vaccines:
http://www.novaccine.com/specific-vaccines/vaccine.asp?v_id=21
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This is a reply to # 1,825,822Network of corruption the cdc who and big pharma
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This is a reply to # 1,825,843I do have my evidence that the website is full of lies, and disinformation. Its up to you who you trust, if you want to believe this website, or those that promote anti-vaccination, thats entirely your deal.
I'm not here to try and change the minds of those that have fixed their views in concrete. I post on here because I want to provide a different viewpoint, and encourage people to use critical thinking, and research for themselves, from credible sources, rather than blindly follow.
I'm happy to provide information to those that are genuinely interested.
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This is a reply to # 1,825,855I'm not saying that the website isn't full of lies. It may be.
I just don't buy into sweeping generalizations.- Re: spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,825,859I wasn't making a sweeping generalisation.
I was saying that IMO this website is full of lies.
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This is a reply to # 1,825,887The website I linked to in the OP is not full of lies.
It's one the most factual sites on vaccinations that I've come across. It links to articles, studies, and public health websites so that people can educate themselves and make their own decisions. It is non-profit.
The people running it include MD's, PhD's, DC's, and at least one person with experience working in the pharmaceutical industry.
http://www.novaccine.com/about.asp
About WAVE
The World Association for Vaccine Education (WAVE) is globally focused, non-profit, educational institution advocating reformation of the mass vaccination systems. To this effect, WAVE provides an avenue for a public exchange of non-medical vaccine information, ideas and a continuously updated database of documents that concern vaccine risk and uselessness. It’s intent is to redress the balance of information available to parents on vaccination issues, acknowledge people who experience vaccine reactions, and adamantly advocate and maintain freedom of choice.
Our Mission
The World Association for Vaccine Education (WAVE) promotes independent thinking, personal responsibility, and social evolution. We are dedicated to the prevention of vaccine injuries and deaths through public education and awareness.
Our Commitment to Evidence and Scientific-Based Conclusions
Medical Veritas® is a medical journal that contains no advertising and its research is uncompromised by the prevailing conflicts of interest with pharmaceutical companies or other vested institutions. It employs the use of diverse and independent international experts who oversee and peer-review the contents for objective manuscripts of the highest integrity.
Medical Veritas is the official journal of WAVE and http://www.novaccine.com
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This is a reply to # 1,825,918You would believe that, it fits your view, I do not.
This website is a barely veiled attempt to portray an anti-vaccination site as credible. It has obviously fooled you.
IMO the website is full of misinformation, I'm sure others can make up their own minds.
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