Those formulas are expensive, and may have ingredients you don't want. Why not make your own formula using ground cloves, turmeric, ginger, cayenne, garlic, and perhaps a bit of thyme and sage. You could then add a small amount of of Wormwood and green Black-Walnut hull for short periods of time. you need to use care with Wormwood , and not use too much or use it for too long. Thyme and sage as well as cloves are very good, but should not be used in excess. Some people have good success just using turmeric or curry powder(which has plenty of turmeric in it) and cloves.