kefir question 
jboy7185
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DO i have to use reverse osmosis water for the kefir batch? can i buy this somewhere?
also i read that i have to use a plastic/cloth strainer when transfering grains cause the metal strainers kill the cultures? i cant find a plastic strainer they are all metal at the store...
rehydrating them right now- Re: kefir question water01
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,789,377You should be able to find/buy reverse osmosis water anywhere that sells bottled waters.
If all you can find is a metal strainer, I would suggest placing a cotton cloth in the strainer so the grains don't come in direct contact with the metal.
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This is a reply to # 1,789,394I forgot to include this link for you.
Lots of good information and ideas.
Kefir, Kombucha, Cultured/Fermented Vegetables, Sprouts
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1677825
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- Re: kefir question jboy7185
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This is a reply to # 1,789,377The website link you gave me says DO NOT use reverse osmosis as it kills the grains over time.
the other site also says its ok to use stainless steeel strainers,
now i'm very confused.- Re: kefir question unyquity
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,789,432The best water for making water kefir is spring water (because of the hard minerals). The one you cannot use is tap water (it'll kill them because of the chlorine & fluoride).
Anyone using R/O or distilled should make sure to add a pinch of baking soda and some blackstrap molasses for minerals (along with whatever fruit pieces you choose to use). Otherwise, after 8-12 batches, the grains might start to be a bit smaller and dissolve. Some people add nothing but organic Sugar to the distilled or r/o water and have no problems at all.
We use R/O, but we make ours by the gallon (so our ratios aren't the same). In a gallon jug we use about 3/4+ gallon of water and:
2 cups of grains
a big pinch of baking soda
1 Tablespoon of molasses
2 dates
half a lemon, not squeezed (organic, or scrubbed free of pesticides)
1 cup of organic evaporated cane juice Sugar crystals (Turbinado is the kind we use, but there are others)
Blessings,
Uny
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Can organic orange slices be used in... josephr525
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This is a reply to # 1,789,441Hello!
I'm wanting to strain and store my WK in 2 days now. 3 day ferments taste good but have more alcohol, and I'm looking for as little buzz as possible. I drank 3+ cups of it yesterday. I have about 3 recipes of it in my fridge, and they ALL taste good!
This is a batch in a gallon jar I'm going to "harvest" today (with lemon, figs, raw sugar, and BSM) :
I may get some 2 quart sealable jars and make 6 cups or so at a time. Sealed jars seem to make a fizzier drink, but it needs to be done right. I forgot to add baking soda to this batch, but I think it'll be OK. It's quite forgiving and seems that most any recipe works. It's a great drink and it seems to have added something to my body that I needed! I seem to feel fatigue right after I drink it, but that seems to fade fast, and *may* be the booze buzz.
This is in a sealed jar that I plan to harvest on Monday :
- Re: Can organic orange slices be use... jboy7185
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This is a reply to # 1,789,678from what I read on those sites you can try it out, see how they respond. even grapefruit. apparently it is pretty forgiving an just depends how they respond.
how much grains per water do you use?
I used all the grains uny sent me in about 9 cups water. I think that's too Many grains an id like to brew separate batches to try diff methods- I try to go by the basic recipe josephr525
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This is a reply to # 1,789,683Hi,
I try to go by the basic recipe, which is 1 TBS grains to 1 cup of water and 1 TBS sugar.
I think, the more SKG [kefir grains] you have in a recipe, the faster it will ferment, so to keep the alcohol level down, taste test it often and strain it as soon as you think it's ready.
It's going to take your grains 3-7 days or so to really get going. The first batch may not be too great, but they will improve fast.- Re: I try to go by the basic recipe jboy7185
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This is a reply to # 1,789,709ahh thats VERY good to know, now i can make smaller batches an try diff methods. thanks
- Re: I try to go by the basic recipe josephr525
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This is a reply to # 1,789,722You're welcome. Don't forget to add 1/8 tsp or so of baking soda (per gallon is what I do) to bring your water to around pH 7.2 +/-. You'll be brewing that stuff real good very soon.
Keep up with the garlic and cayenne. I think that's why I may get away with WK and ACV now.- Re: I try to go by the basic recipe jboy7185
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- I think he means water kefir (WK)...... unyquity
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This is a reply to # 1,789,893Water kefir and Sugar kefir are the same thing. Sometimes people abbreviate Sugar Kefir Grains as SKG (which are what we call Water Kefir Grains).
Methinks it'd be easiest for all of us if we just still with "water kefir" and "dairy kefir".
Uny
- I think he means water kefir (WK)...... unyquity
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- The baking soda in water kefir.... R... unyquity
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This is a reply to # 1,789,805...is for adding minerals to "empty water". Just so folks know, the reason for adding it has nothing to do with pH balancing.
Blessings,
Uny- Really? josephr525
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This is a reply to # 1,789,960I could swear Dom [or someone] said it had to do with a pH of 7.2 to 7.5 for best fermentation. If I see that again, I'll post it here.
I also thought it may have to do with hard water causing SKG to eventually break apart, which I think you said.
Can't find that at Dom's site, so you're probably right.- Re: Really? unyquity
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This is a reply to # 1,789,962Dom might have mentioned that, if you find it, let us know.
Since we have a couple folks on this forum that are obsessing about alkaline/acid balance...I just wanted to make sure that people understand making water kefir is not dependent upon "acid/alkaline balance". Folks have been making it for decades (centuries) with nothing but water and sugar.
No harm, no foul :)
Uny
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