Master Cleanse: can't get hold of ca... 
albert_hall
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I'm really up for my third master cleanse. Only problem is that I'm in Kuwait. Can't find cayenne pepper here. (Can't find maple syrup either, but can get Sugar cane juice so hopefully no problems there). Is there something I can substitute for cayenne pepper? Is there any point in doing the cleanse without c p ?
Yours in advance,
Albert- Re: Master Cleanse: can't get hold o... tmills
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This is a reply to # 1,750,382That's a bummer! You really do need cayenne pepper, it's what removes the mucus and toxins from your cells, etc.
Would you like me to send you some cayenne pepper? I'm at the end of Day 6 of my cleanse and I feel really great!!
I believe molasses is better substitute for the maple syrup than Sugar cane juice? Do you think you'll be able to find some of that in Kuwait?
- Re: Master Cleanse: can't get hold o... pepe
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This is a reply to # 1,750,651
Sugarcane juice would NOT be a "substitute" as it's what the original recipe for the Master Cleanse called for. Stanley actually had to find a substitute for it since it was not readily available in the US.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,750,382Are you sure it's just not called something else there?
From Wiki:
The cayenne pepper—also known as the Guinea spice, Cow Horn Pepper, aleva or bird pepper[1] or, especially in its powdered form, red pepper—is a hot, red chili pepper used to flavor dishes and for medicinal purposes. Named for the city of Cayenne in French Guiana, it is a cultivar of Capsicum annuum related to bell peppers, jalapeños, and others. The Capsicum genus is in the nightshade family (Solanaceae).
And from Google:
http://www.organicfacts.net/organic-stores/organic-stores/organic-food-stores...
I don't even know where Kuwait is but you can't be the first person there to do the MC.
And there's always Ebay.
- Re: Master Cleanse: can't get hold o... Sherri
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This is a reply to # 1,750,382Am doing the cane juice version right now. Also using Kashmiri Mirch instead of Cayanne. Does the same thing. Basically Red chilli. Am finding that the cane juice is sweeter than the maple syrup version.
- Re: Master Cleanse: can't get hold o... albert_hall
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This is a reply to # 1,751,307Cheers, guys. Really appreciate the responses. @ tmills thanks for the offer . Great to know that there are people like you about.Problem is that out here things posted out here take weeks and weeks to clear customs. Might take me 6-7 weeks to get the package (after it arrives in the country!) if I get it at all. Good luck with the cleanse. It's great stuff, isn't?
Kuwait is in the middle east.
Will check to see if c p is available under other names. Not that optimistic, but will try.
@Sherri: Kasmiri Mirch sounds interesting. Will look into it.
@Pepe:What's your opinion on the above as a subsitute for c p? Could you recommend any other subsitutes? I know you've been on here years ( appreciate your service mate!); if you don't know of any, I don't suppose there any.
Cheers,
Albert
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This is a reply to # 1,751,431
Probably any kind of pepper you can find in the capsicum genus would be fine. Whatever you do find you shoud be able to find it's genus with a little research on the net.
One place to possible start to search is using one of the translating engines on the net and try translating cayenne into Kuwaits native language which I assume is Arabic.
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- Re: Master Cleanse: can't get hold o... albert_hall
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This is a reply to # 1,751,626Cheers, Pepe. Do you think paprika might do the trick? It's the same genus and is readily available here.
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Paprika is pretty mild heat wise and it's made from dried red bell pepper which is a rather sweet and mellow fruit. The heat factor is definitely part of the the desireable theraputic property of the cayenne as it stimulates circulation and losens mucous in the system. I would think that because of its mellow nature paprika would not be suitable.
Cayenne is more of a red chili pepper. I tried I-Google translation engine English to Arabic for caynne and it returns the translation in Arabic text . Try that and see if folks in Kuwait can point you to it's equivalent. Try translating red chili intead of cayenne. Surely the Arabs must have some close equivalent. It could simply be just a matter of what they call it there.
On the cane juice I assume that you know that the stuff does not keep overnight even if refrigerated so you would have to have made fresh every day.
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This is a reply to # 1,751,774Kashmiri Mirch is a capsicum family chilli. Here is the link for the page with arabic translation.
http://www.foodista.com/food/TNBFW6DX/kashmiri-mirch
Kashmiri Mirch is pretty common on this side of the world (I'm in India). I doubt you will have a problem finding it.
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- Cane Juice Sherri
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This is a reply to # 1,751,770Just an FYI on Cane juice keeping overnight.
As long as it goes straight into the fridge in the morning, it will last closer to 30 hrs. You can tell if it is going off because it actually starts to ferment so you get a little tingle sensation when you drink it.
My driver brings my juice by about 10 am and I usually have a glass going from the night before that lasts past noon or so.
Kashmiri Chili (Mirch) is a red chili pepper from kashmir. It is hotter than cayanne, and does do the trick. It really is the heat that you need. makes your tummy feel full, gets things loosened up.
Good luck
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Another way to tell that the can juice is going bad is also color. It will start geting a slight brown tinge. Quite possibly if you mix the lemon juice into your batch it might act as a preservative and help it last a little longer. I can't say the preceding is "fact" since I'm just going from vague childhood memories which I seem to remember my mother adding lime juice to it to make it keep a little longer.
I've recently moved much closer to the farmers market where I found fresh cane juice in the states (Atlanta, Ga). On a recent visit last week I checked with the prospect of doing an MC with it in the spring but unfortunately they don't have it any more. Dunno that I could have afforded to do a full MC since it was fairly expensive at $6-7 US for half gallon but at least it would have been a nice occasional treat and change of pace kinda thing.
- Re: Cane Juice Sherri
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This is a reply to # 1,751,955When I get my fresh squeezed cane juice in the morning it is brown. Which I thought was weird initially because any time I've just bought a glass to drink it is always yellowish. But when I've bought a glass in the past they squeeze the lemon with the cane all at once.
When I mix my lemon in it turns yellow. SO you are right about the color change, but it doesn't have anything to do with it's age. Just with the lemon added that changes it's color.
I think it may be like apples. when it is exposed to air it bruises and turns brown.
I pay the equivalent of about $2.50 for 1/2 a gallon- Re: Cane Juice pepe
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This is a reply to # 1,752,359
Though my experience is sparse in the last 20 years I don't remember seeing "fresh juice" with brown coloring and only seeing it get the brown color as it oxydates/ferments. Could be the extraction method same as veggie juicers where the ones that preserve the veg juice longer work at slow speeds and the faster spinning ones both generate heat and introduce oxygen into the juice making it spoil faster.
- Re: Cane Juice Sherri
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This is a reply to # 1,753,097The Juice 'Wallah' Has an apparatus something like and old school washing machine. The double roller that squeezes the juice out... and he runs the sticks through, folds them in half and does it again and again until he can't fold them in half anymore...which is why I say fresh squeezed cane juice.
Yesterday I left a glass of juice out to see if it got darker over time. This morning's juice is the same color as yesterdays glass. And it isn't really the lemon that I find changes the color the most...I think it is the cayanne believe it or not that completes the transformation. Hmmmm- Re: Cane Juice pepe
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This is a reply to # 1,753,499
Ya that's sorta the kind of machine I remember from my childhood. They were great big things too with their own stands etc. They were enclosed in stainless steel and they had a softball sized hole in front that you could see the rollers but not the rest of the mechanical works. The cane came out the rear into a waste bin or trash can. They only ran the cane through it once and the outside skin was was peeled off pre juicing which to my my thinking makes it more sanitary. This running it through only once and peeling could be the difference.
In more recent years the ones I've seen are table top models. Not quite as small as a veg juicer but not anywhere near those old behemoths I remember from my childhood. With these machines the cane was also peeled and run through only once.
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Re: Cane Juice pepe
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This is a reply to # 1,753,534Ok I imagine that this is more like what you describe from India. For me it's a totally different experience. The machines I'm familiar with were inside restaurants/coffee shops in Cuba and in Miami where the health regulations I'm sure were way more strict and the machines were enclosed in stainless steel covers and all you could see were the feed rollers through a softball sized hole in the stainless enclosure. The internal works were a bit more sophisticated where it used 3 rollers which bent the cane as it crushed it making it more efficient thus not having to put the cane through more than once like the embedded video below from India. There are other vids on You Tube that show the same kinda machine but hand cranked.
- Re: Cane Juice Sherri
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This is a reply to # 1,753,581Not really. Here is the machine they use streetside here in Bangalore. Except that it is on a more compact card than the one here , the machine is exact even in color.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a8FlAhFo_I&NR=1
- Re: Cane Juice pepe
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This is a reply to # 1,754,538
Well I coulda picked amongst many videos on YouTube and different machines. I just happened to pick the one I posted more for the gist and the mechanics of your description of the "old fashioned washing machine rollers" you mentioned. I smiled at your video cause that guy was sure gonna get every damn last bit of juice from that cane as may times as he folded it and put it through again and again ;+D
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- Re: Cane Juice pepe
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This is a reply to # 1,754,538
Here is a western encased cane juice machine with easily removable rollers for washing to meet the more stringent western health code requirements. This is a table top model as you can tell from the dimensions. The ones I remember as a kid were like 3ft stainless steel cubes that stood on their own legs. The one in your vid looks like it could be at least 50 or more years old and quite possibly at one time was hand cranked and they just added a pulley with a motor.
- Re: Cane Juice Sherri
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This is a reply to # 1,754,674Wowza I think the Cane juice wallah would be drooling if he saw this.
Most everything looks pretty old here, even when it's new. If it aint broke, don't fix it I guess. You know they still make the old VW beetle in Mexico? Pretty sure they still make these juice presses here, and the only one's I've seen are motorized...and LOUD.
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He might not drool so much when he found out this little table top model was I believe around $1700 US
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This is a reply to # 1,750,382Re Kashmiri Mirch: I can't find Kashmiri Mirch as such here, but the Indian shops all sell Kashmiri chilli. Do you think this is the same thing?( They also sell normal hot chilli so I assume it's different to that).
I tried the Arabic word Pepe gave me for cayenne pepper, but it seems, at least from what I have been offered in shops, that people here just understand that word as 'chilli'.
Appreciate all the help.
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