...it is an INSIDIOUS drug that is known to weaken the adrenals substantially, and stop/prevent the bodies own production of the natural hormone it mimics. As far as this: >>> I'll be able to eventually get off HC. Or, maybe not.<<< Of course you can wean off of it (and you will definitely need to if you expect your body to heal itself), but you will have to educate yourself, support your adrenals and (like) use a slow, structured withdrawal schedule/routine.
If you've started reducing recently, your symptoms could be all OVER the place (inability to sleep and 'wired' feelings are extremely common). For those that exhibit symptoms reducing, I have found (and it is known) that one should undertake a VERY structured, VERY low 'reduction schedule' and be prepared for many 'ups & downs' during the withdrawal period and afterward. And it is my opinion that one should give the adrenals as much support via adaptogenic herbs & nutrition as possible....but I do not suggest doing this (or making any other harsh/sudden changes) until you've mapped out a 'total body' healing plan.
If you haven't thoroughly researched this, it would be wise to check out 15-20 of the links/articles (over several pages) of the information contained in this Google search (hydrocortisone, withdrawal): www.google.com/search
(By the way, I received and responded to your PM, so be sure to check your Inbox if you haven't already). To everyone & #46511 - please remember, I do NOT have time to answer or reply to PMs unless it has something to do with your 'order details'. Every minute/hour/day I spend answering PMs is one minute/hour/day I don't have to be answering posts on the forum, and this is something I AM going to stick to from here on out.
With HC, testosterone shots, DHEA, Pregnenolone AND chelation, your body is extremely imbalanced hormonally...and with your compromised liver on top of that? Well, you have a lot of work to do, that's for sure. What a blessing it is that our bodies are so resilient that we can do that much damage, yet they will still recover.
You said >>>I"d have to taper off HC over a a month or so. I'm at 15 mg right now, and if I don't chelate any more, I should be able to get off of it. <<<
It is always possible to get off of HC...but off of 15 mg in a month?!?! Wow, that would be wayWayWAY too quickly for most people.
I would suggest the safest (and least compromising way) to taper off of HC is a slow & structured withdrawal of "10% of the last known dosage, every 2 weeks". Example: you start at 15 mgs, so for the first cut in dosage, cut 10% of 15 mgs 1.5, which would be 13.5 mgs daily, and stick at that for two weeks (or longer, until the symptoms subside). For the next cut, take 10% off of the 13.5 mgs your body is accustomed to (13.5 - 1.35 mgs, for a daily dose of 12.15 mgs)...again for two weeks or until symptoms subside. Then continue the same structure of withdrawal until you're totally off. Yes, this takes a LONG time, but slow & steady is what wins this race.
It is possible that with additional adrenal support (Dr. Christopher's Adrenal Tincture; the herb Ashwagandha; bee pollen for B5 and some form of natural vitamin c - such as acerola cherry, amla berry, etc), that you could cut the dosages more substantially...but that will depend upon a MYRIAD of variables.
When I saw your original post about being on the HC (testosterone, DHEA, Pregnenelone, along with ALA) along with Hepatitis, I was extremely concerned. This is but one of the reasons why it is going to take some time to give you all the information required (imo) for you to safely & effectively formulate & instigate a healing protocol.
Below (from a subscription pay-site called eHealthMe) are the statitics of actual adverse effects of HC that have been reported to the FDA (not the adverse effects that are 'advertised' or found after only 4-8 weeks in extremely manipulated clinical trials). These are REAL LIFE statistics. It is estimated these numbers represent 10% or less of the "actual" since physicians commonly will not admit/report that there has been harm caused by drugs/chemicals they have prescribed. By looking at these adverse reports you can analyze/contemplate how HC effects the entire body and all organs adversely (not just the adrenals), and how/why it is SUCH an insidious drug. There is a similar report for Testosterone, and information regarding DHEA & Pregnenolone below the data on HC.
Name | How frequent is it: Number of people (% of total people) |
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1 | Pyrexia (Fever) | 754 (7.03%) |
2 | Vomiting (Nausea and vomiting) | 627 (5.84%) |
3 | Vomiting Nos (Nausea and vomiting) | 627 (5.84%) |
4 | Dyspnoea (Breathing difficulty) | 618 (5.76%) |
5 | Dyspnoea Nos (Breathing difficulty) | 607 (5.66%) |
6 | Hypotension | 570 (5.31%) |
7 | Nausea | 550 (5.13%) |
8 | Blood Pressure Decreased (Hypotension) | 544 (5.07%) |
9 | Fatigue | 481 (4.48%) |
10 | Asthenia (Weakness) | 481 (4.48%) |
11 | Diarrhoea (Diarrhea) | 471 (4.39%) |
12 | Diarrhoea Nos (Diarrhea) | 463 (4.32%) |
13 | Erythema (Rashes) | 428 (3.99%) |
14 | Rash (Rashes) | 423 (3.94%) |
15 | Hypertension (High blood pressure) | 413 (3.85%) |
16 | Pneumonia | 410 (3.82%) |
17 | Condition Aggravated | 377 (3.51%) |
18 | Headache Nos | 369 (3.44%) |
19 | Headache | 368 (3.43%) |
20 | Pneumonia Nos | 361 (3.36%) |
21 | Sepsis Nos | 357 (3.33%) |
22 | Sepsis | 357 (3.33%) |
23 | Pain | 349 (3.25%) |
24 | Pain Nos | 345 (3.22%) |
25 | Blood Pressure Increased (High blood pressure) | 323 (3.01%) |
26 | Chest Pain | 314 (2.93%) |
27 | Anaemia | 294 (2.74%) |
28 | Neutropenia (Agranulocytosis) | 293 (2.73%) |
29 | Renal Failure Acute | 292 (2.72%) |
30 | Abdominal Pain | 291 (2.71%) |
31 | Abdominal Pain Nos | 291 (2.71%) |
32 | Drug Ineffective | 287 (2.67%) |
33 | Dehydration | 282 (2.63%) |
34 | Anxiety (Stress and anxiety) | 263 (2.45%) |
35 | Renal Failure (Acute kidney failure) | 263 (2.45%) |
36 | Dizziness | 259 (2.41%) |
37 | Malaise | 257 (2.40%) |
38 | Haemoglobin Decreased | 228 (2.12%) |
39 | Thrombocytopenia | 222 (2.07%) |
40 | Depression | 220 (2.05%) |
41 | Tachycardia | 219 (2.04%) |
42 | Loss Of Consciousness | 216 (2.01%) |
43 | Cardiac Arrest | 214 (1.99%) |
44 | Chills | 208 (1.94%) |
45 | Cough | 204 (1.90%) |
46 | Platelet Count Decreased (Thrombocytopenia ) | 204 (1.90%) |
47 | Pruritus (Itching) | 200 (1.86%) |
48 | Multi-organ Failure | 193 (1.80%) |
49 | Arthralgia (Joint pain) | 193 (1.80%) |
50 | Oedema Peripheral | 192 (1.79%) |
51 | Death | 191 (1.78%) |
52 | Fall | 188 (1.75%) |
53 | Pleural Effusion | 184 (1.71%) |
54 | Drug Toxicity | 181 (1.69%) |
55 | Drug Interaction | 180 (1.68%) |
56 | Respiratory Failure (Respiratory acidosis) | 178 (1.66%) |
57 | Back Pain | 175 (1.63%) |
58 | Weight Decreased | 173 (1.61%) |
59 | Pancytopenia | 168 (1.57%) |
60 | Convulsion | 165 (1.54%) |
61 | Alanine Aminotransferase Increased | 163 (1.52%) |
62 | Confusional State | 162 (1.51%) |
63 | Hyponatraemia | 161 (1.50%) |
64 | Infusion Related Reaction | 161 (1.50%) |
65 | Pain In Extremity | 158 (1.47%) |
66 | Blood Creatinine Increased | 156 (1.45%) |
67 | Anorexia | 155 (1.44%) |
68 | Septic Shock | 155 (1.44%) |
69 | Aspartate Aminotransferase Increased | 154 (1.44%) |
70 | Tremor | 153 (1.43%) |
71 | Weight Increased | 151 (1.41%) |
72 | Somnolence (Drowsiness) | 147 (1.37%) |
73 | Hypersensitivity | 146 (1.36%) |
74 | Osteonecrosis | 143 (1.33%) |
75 | Constipation | 143 (1.33%) |
76 | Myocardial Infarction (Heart attack) | 141 (1.31%) |
77 | Atrial Fibrillation (Atrial fibrillation/flutter) | 140 (1.30%) |
78 | Febrile Neutropenia | 139 (1.30%) |
79 | Cardiac Failure Congestive | 139 (1.30%) |
80 | Hypokalaemia (Hypokalemia) | 135 (1.26%) |
81 | Myalgia (Muscle aches) | 134 (1.25%) |
82 | Craniopharyngioma | 133 (1.24%) |
83 | Pulmonary Embolism | 128 (1.19%) |
84 | Oxygen Saturation Decreased | 125 (1.16%) |
85 | Depressed Level Of Consciousness | 125 (1.16%) |
86 | General Physical Health Deterioration | 120 (1.12%) |
87 | Cardio-respiratory Arrest | 119 (1.11%) |
88 | Blood Bilirubin Increased | 118 (1.10%) |
89 | International Normalised Ratio Increased | 117 (1.09%) |
90 | White Blood Cell Count Decreased | 113 (1.05%) |
91 | White Blood Cell Count Increased | 112 (1.04%) |
92 | Dermatitis Nos | 111 (1.03%) |
93 | Blood Creatine Phosphokinase Increased | 111 (1.03%) |
94 | Syncope (Fainting) | 111 (1.03%) |
95 | Hepatic Failure | 109 (1.02%) |
96 | Blood Alkaline Phosphatase Increased | 107 (1.00%) |
97 | Heart Rate Increased | 105 (0.98%) |
98 | Respiratory Distress | 105 (0.98%) |
99 | Drug Exposure During Pregnancy | 104 (0.97%) |
100 | Ascites |
104 (0.97%) |
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Name | How frequent is it: Number of people (% of total people) |
|
1 | Drug Ineffective | 177 (5.62%) |
2 | Application Site Reaction Nos | 166 (5.27%) |
3 | Nausea | 139 (4.41%) |
4 | Headache | 135 (4.28%) |
5 | Headache Nos | 135 (4.28%) |
6 | Asthenia (Weakness) | 129 (4.09%) |
7 | Dyspnoea Nos (Breathing difficulty) | 124 (3.93%) |
8 | Dyspnoea (Breathing difficulty) | 124 (3.93%) |
9 | Chest Pain | 123 (3.90%) |
10 | Chest Discomfort (Chest pain) | 123 (3.90%) |
11 | Fatigue | 115 (3.65%) |
12 | Erectile Dysfunction (Erection problems) | 113 (3.59%) |
13 | Pruritus (Itching) | 112 (3.55%) |
14 | Impotence (Erection problems) | 112 (3.55%) |
15 | Pain Nos | 101 (3.20%) |
16 | Pain | 101 (3.20%) |
17 | Dizziness | 93 (2.95%) |
18 | Weight Decreased | 86 (2.73%) |
19 | Rash (Rashes) | 82 (2.60%) |
20 | Hypertension (High blood pressure) | 78 (2.47%) |
21 | Weight Increased | 76 (2.41%) |
22 | Rash Erythematous | 73 (2.32%) |
23 | Vomiting (Nausea and vomiting) | 73 (2.32%) |
24 | Blood Testosterone Increased | 72 (2.28%) |
25 | Insomnia | 72 (2.28%) |
26 | Insomnia Nec | 71 (2.25%) |
27 | Depression | 68 (2.16%) |
28 | Application Site Erythema | 67 (2.13%) |
29 | Hypersensitivity Nos | 66 (2.09%) |
30 | Atrial Fibrillation (Atrial fibrillation/flutter) | 66 (2.09%) |
31 | Hypersensitivity | 66 (2.09%) |
32 | Myocardial Infarction (Heart attack) | 63 (2.00%) |
33 | Diarrhoea (Diarrhea) | 62 (1.97%) |
34 | Application Site Irritation | 62 (1.97%) |
35 | Prostate Cancer | 61 (1.94%) |
36 | Blood Pressure Increased (High blood pressure) | 60 (1.90%) |
37 | Abdominal Pain | 57 (1.81%) |
38 | Acne | 57 (1.81%) |
39 | Blood Testosterone Decreased | 56 (1.78%) |
40 | Oedema Peripheral | 55 (1.74%) |
41 | Anxiety (Stress and anxiety) | 54 (1.71%) |
42 | Libido Decreased | 53 (1.68%) |
43 | Application Site Pruritus | 52 (1.65%) |
44 | Urticaria Nos | 52 (1.65%) |
45 | Pyrexia (Fever) | 50 (1.59%) |
46 | Hirsutism (Excessive or unwanted hair in women) | 50 (1.59%) |
47 | Alopecia (Hair loss) | 50 (1.59%) |
48 | Dermatitis Nos | 48 (1.52%) |
49 | Condition Aggravated | 48 (1.52%) |
50 | Arthralgia (Joint pain) | 47 (1.49%) |
51 | Cardiac Failure Congestive | 47 (1.49%) |
52 | Accidental Exposure | 46 (1.46%) |
53 | Blister | 45 (1.43%) |
54 | Pneumonia | 45 (1.43%) |
55 | Renal Failure Acute | 45 (1.43%) |
56 | Hair Growth Abnormal | 44 (1.40%) |
57 | Fall | 43 (1.36%) |
58 | Blood Glucose Increased | 41 (1.30%) |
59 | Back Pain | 40 (1.27%) |
60 | Dermatitis Contact | 40 (1.27%) |
61 | Palpitations (Heart palpitations) | 39 (1.24%) |
62 | Aggression | 36 (1.14%) |
63 | Death | 35 (1.11%) |
64 | Application Site Rash | 35 (1.11%) |
65 | Skin Disorder Nos | 35 (1.11%) |
66 | Flushing (Skin blushing/flushing) | 35 (1.11%) |
67 | Precocious Puberty | 34 (1.08%) |
68 | Myalgia (Muscle aches) | 33 (1.05%) |
69 | Hyperhidrosis | 33 (1.05%) |
70 | Tachycardia | 32 (1.02%) |
71 | Pulmonary Embolism | 32 (1.02%) |
72 | Cerebrovascular Accident (Stroke) | 31 (0.98%) |
73 | Loss Of Consciousness | 31 (0.98%) |
74 | Dehydration | 31 (0.98%) |
75 | Cellulitis | 31 (0.98%) |
76 | Prostatic Specific Antigen Increased | 30 (0.95%) |
77 | Osteonecrosis | 30 (0.95%) |
78 | Vasodilatation | 29 (0.92%) |
79 | Coronary Artery Disease (Coronary heart disease) | 29 (0.92%) |
80 | Hormone Level Nos Abnormal | 29 (0.92%) |
81 | Scrotal Irritation | 29 (0.92%) |
82 | Feeling Abnormal | 29 (0.92%) |
83 | Anaemia | 28 (0.89%) |
84 | Agitation | 28 (0.89%) |
85 | Alanine Aminotransferase Increased | 28 (0.89%) |
86 | Abdominal Distension | 28 (0.89%) |
87 | Renal Failure (Acute kidney failure) | 27 (0.86%) |
88 | Aspartate Aminotransferase Increased | 27 (0.86%) |
89 | Haemoglobin Decreased | 27 (0.86%) |
90 | Drug Effect Decreased | 27 (0.86%) |
91 | Dyspepsia (Indigestion) | 27 (0.86%) |
92 | Anorexia | 26 (0.82%) |
93 | Dizziness (exc Vertigo) | 26 (0.82%) |
94 | Urinary Tract Infection | 26 (0.82%) |
95 | Convulsion | 25 (0.79%) |
96 | Suicidal Ideation | 25 (0.79%) |
97 | Application Site Oedema | 25 (0.79%) |
98 | Constipation | 25 (0.79%) |
99 | Confusional State | 25 (0.79%) |
100 | Syncope (Fainting) | 25 (0.79%) |
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Side effects and adverse responses to DHEA (taken from various internet sites) [Note: this supplement is another hormone made mostly by the adrenals -- and supplementing hormones CAN weaken or totally shut down/prevent the adrenals or other organs from producing the hormone. So this may have some withdrawal effects similar to the HC]
How Does It Work?
* Like any and all androgenic steroid, DHEA can cause hair loss, especially in men. DHEA tends to increases levels of DHT (dihydrotestosterone), along with testosterone, and DHT is a main cause in hair loss.
* DHEA use can lead to acne problems, as most of you probably know that testosterone can cause acne problem among others.
* DHEA can lead to menstrual irregularities in women. It can also accelerate facial hair growth, and deepen voice.
* DHEA can convert to estrogen and this can lead to unwanted "feminine" characteristics in men.
* Long term use of DHEA can increase risk for breast cancer, ovary cancer, and prostate cancer.
* DHEA can also lead to prostate enlargement.
* "Promote weight loss and muscle gain" as claimed mainly by the manufacturers and distributors; however very few case studies have shown this to be true - so be cautious
* "DHEA can also help increase metabolism" - this claim also comes from the manufacturers. Again, there's little evidence to prove this
Hormone-sensitive conditions such as breast cancer, uterine cancer, ovarian cancer, endometriosis, or uterine fibroids: DHEA is a hormone that can affect how estrogen works in the body. If you have any condition that might be made worse by exposure to estrogen, don’t use DHEA.
Liver problems: DHEA might make liver problems worse. Don’t use DHEA if you have liver problems.
Diabetes: DHEA can affect how insulin works in the body. If you have diabetes, monitor your blood sugar carefully if you are taking DHEA.
Depression and mood disorders: There is some concern that patients with a history of depression and bipolar disorder might have some mental side effects if they use DHEA. DHEA can cause mania (excitability and impulsiveness), irritability, and sexua| inappropriateness in people with mood disorders. If you have a mood disorder, be sure to discuss DHEA with your healthcare provider before you start taking it. Also, pay attention to any changes in how you feel.
Polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS): Taking DHEA might make this condition worse. Don’t use DHEA if you have PCOS.
Cholesterol problems: DHEA might lower “good cholesterol” (high lipoprotein cholesterol, HDL). If your HDL level is already too low, discuss DHEA with your healthcare provider before you start taking it.
Individuals with existing liver disease (such as viral hepatitis or cirrhosis) might consider taking DHEA sublingually (under your tongue) or using a topical DHEA cream to reduce the amount of DHEA entering the liver. DHEA is converted by the liver into DHEA-s (dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate). Those with liver disease should carefully monitor liver enzyme levels to make sure that DHEA therapy is not making liver disease worse. [from what I'm seeing anyone with ANY type of liver compromise, particularly hepatitis or cirrhosis, should NEVER use DHEA!]
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Side effects and adverse responses to Pregnenolone (taken from various internet sites) Yet another steroid/hormone supplment that CAN shut down the body's natural production, is definitely not "natural", has a wide array of adverse effects (affecting MANY body systems adversely, including the heart) and is not recommended for those with kidney or liver compromise.
Pregnant and nursing women, children, and people with kidney or liver disease should not take pregnenolone. In people with prostate conditions, use of pregnenolone should be monitored carefully.
Others include heart palpitations, irritability, night sweats, anger, and insomnia. These can range from mild to severe depending on dosage.
Very few studies have been conducted on the use of pregnenolone, so its side effects have not been well documented in many cases. One reason for this is that pregnenolone is a naturally occurring hormone and steroid.
Side effects and adverse responses to ALA Chelation "therapy" (out of time to do a decent internet search, but here's a couple-quickies):
Side effects of alpha lipoic acid may include headache, tingling or a "pins and needles" sensation, skin rash, or muscle cramps.
There have been a few reports in Japan of a rare condition called insulin autoimmune syndrome in people using alpha lipoic acid. The condition causes hypoglycemia and antibodies directed against the body's own insulin without previous insulin therapy.
The safety of alpha lipoic acid in pregnant or nursing women, children, or people with kidney or liver disease is unknown.
--side effects can include upset stomach, nausea, diarrhea, flatulence and the likes. Excessive intake of ALA can lead to the lowering of blood sugar.
As a consequence of this structural similarity, an excess of alpha lipoic acid can compete with or displace biotin from its cognate enzyme, according to experimental evidence from cell and animal studies.
Of course, all of the known dangesr & possible harm to the liver & kidneys (and many times, digestive tract) that can come from over-rapidly releasing heavy metals into the bloodstream...and the various issues that can be caused from over-burdening already compromised kidneys and liver.
Yes, I realize that it's now "common" for ALA to be used 'for' Hepatitis, but we can boost glutathione levels easily with coffee enemas (and get a myriad of benefits besides) without ingesting isolated chemicals that are foreign to our bodies, that always (in some way or another) affect homeostasis. And with ALA 'binding' so many metals that are integral to life/health - well, to my understanding of the natural body it's best to repair & decongest the organs and give the body ample fuel and natural assistance. Our body knows how and WILL cleanse & repair itself in the time-frame that it knows is most -effective and safest. (of course, emergency over-exposure to heavy metals is an entirely different situation)
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As you can see/surmise, there is absolutely NO WAY when taking these harsh chelators, chemicals & hormones into ones body that one can EVER ascertain what is truly happening in our REAL body. And there's no way that our body's natural healing schematics can work adequately when our natural body is being chemically forced into actions that are not natural or normal.
I don't know how long you've been playing 'supplement tango' (if like most on CZ, likely a very long time), but when one's body is being chemically forced (and yes, supplements many times DO "force" the body into unnatural actions, just like drugs) all the various diets & protocols that "seem to work right" are most likely those that "work right" with various states of compromise caused by the unnatural state of your body that is happening due to the supplements/drugs...AND the original compromises/diseases. And once your body has grown accustomed to the supplements replacing the hormones it should be making itself (and lowered or stopped it's own production), it's very unbalancing (and typically fraught with symptoms) to start withdrawing before supporting the organs than have been adversely affected.
And I sincerely hope that this one post has shown you just how much time and concern I do have for each of my fellow humans that ask for advice on this forum...and why it takes me so long to compile all the pertinent information needed, so that they can have 'what it takes' to educate themselves fully (so they CAN create a healthy body and lifetime of vibrant, uncompromised living). It's only been 10-11 days since you started posting and asking questions, and that has come amidst MAJOR holiday time crunches & stressors....and I was almost two WEEKS behind in answering posts the posts made prior to yours, before the holidays.
:::::chidingly & sweetly...with a big grin on my face and a wink:::::: Since I've just spent (very gladly & willingly) well almost 7 hours of this day replying to your PM and this one post because I care so much about you & your situation (and my own integrity)....DUUUUUUUUUUUDE! Do you think that (just maybe please) you could have just a wee bit more patience with me? Even if you don't think *I* deserve more patience, methinks you & your body definitely deserve enough patience to see & learn how these great healers were able to successfully/safely restore SO many to vibrant health...without causing additional compromise...naturally.
Blessings of the New Year (and give those precious kitties a 'scratch n' a treat' from me!) -
Uny
...here's a link to the "working FAQ" where you can find a lot of information about which herbal products you'll need to purchase or make yourself, and how to utilize them: ~!~ Compilation ALL "Working FAQ" posts & threads Wow, I see Water01 just compiled many links from the FAQ and posted them FOR you so you won't have do so much searching. She's a TRUE GEM, that's for sure! Always remember, "Schulze" is only one healer, and the protocol we utilize here is based on, and takes into consideration the works of three successful healers. Frustratingly, Dr. Christopher's original books are very hard to find (and very pricey when you do find them). Hopefully you'll be able to compile and utilize the perfect protocol that you need.
Dr. Schulze & Dr. Christopher customized each 'healing journey' for each person's situation (and Gerson did too, but not nearly as much), taking into consideration the various compromises and the drugs/supplements they were taking. You have my BEST wishes for doing it for yourself (with your insistence on it being speedier process than I can offer, when your knowledge-base is relatively empty). Without having read all their books and seen all their videos/audios, it may be a bit daunting to create a successful plan for yourself on a timeframe like this... >>> I don't want you to write me a book, unless you can write it tonight. :) <<<...without running into major bumps in the road and having lots of "do overs". But if you're confident you can get 'er done, that counts for a LOT!
I'll say this once again for the forum (since they didn't see the PM I sent in reply to yours earlier today): Also, I have been assisting & teaching people these protocols & healing truths for YEARS now, and my knowledge & experience (and the experiences of others) have been a very long & steep learning curve. I have learned very solidly, that people need to learn and understand the full picture BEFORE they start treating themselves using this protocol. Already you've started taking the cayenne, changed your diet substantially, AND starting lessening the HC rather than waiting for answers...and you already experiencing negative reactions (and have thrown your body further out of homeostasis) because you don't have the full picture. You have already proved (again), what I have already learned...that answering small questions about herbs or diets without people having ALL the information they need (and then taking the time to read & understand it), results in more compromise and frustration.
Perhaps I was off-base in my ascertations above, and you are a tough ole bird (as it seems you're indicating) whose body somehow has the resiliency required to tough your way through doing all these cleanses (in whatever order and way that you opt to do them in) and come out on the other side with stronger health. But keep in mind that I've seen several people 'crash & burn' very badly when coming off HC, so please be very careful (and know the effects and withdrawal effects can/will linger for a LONG time).
Quite frankly, I think that anybody in your/our age bracket with the level of liver compromise you likely have is foolish to mix herbs, cleanses, drugs & supplements without a strong knowledge-base and a lot of patience while gaining it. One can always be building a strong foundation while learning what they need to know to heal themselves safely & effectively. And I also think it's possible (yea, even likely) that you'll end up being one of the ones posting somewhere about how these formulas & cleanses don't work and made you worse. But then, I can't possibly know that with any certainty ...and it might be that you & your body can pull it off somehow. I certainly hope that's the case!
As you're searching through Schulzes site for more info, remember that what he teaches & claims now (and the weeny doses and cleanse lengths that are apparently designed to support his high retail prices, rather than healing) are NOT necessarily the same dosages and cleanses/lengths that he utilized when he was in clinical practice. So it's my advice to be SURE to spend a LOT of time searching through those FAQs so you can find the truth of what your body really needs (based on what Schulze taught when he was in clinical practice and not what he teaches now, after being reduced by the PTB as a "product hawker").
Regarding the Hepatitis C - I would not start doing intense liver cleansing work without doing a lot of liver prepping while simultaneously taking the anti-viral herbs and using other supportive protocols along with it all. Cleansing a compromised organ, imo, requires more care & knowledge than in a normal situation. This is something I would have elaborated upon fully in a complete post for you - the least I can do is offer the basic sentiment for your consideration.
I think you have wayyy too much on your plate. You are being too thorough with too many people. And I think (no, I know) that being thorough is the only way to be safe & effective. You are correct, I do have too much on my plate, but that's due to the fact that SO many people 'off forum' are utilizing the products we offer, and those 'on forum' are having fantastic successes and/or moving ahead on their 'steady upward trend' due to their willingness to learn and take responsibility for their health in the thorough manner they and their body deserves. I would rather have too much on my plate and not "rush through it" than I would be guilty of giving people incomplete or faulty information for their situation.
First physician, do NO harm.
(and that applies to whether you're being your own physician, or whether you're a mere teacher).
Here's a link to Schulzes website: DR. RICHARD SCHULZE'S OFFICIAL WEBSITE (products)
Here's a link to a company that used to be one of his affiliates, that makes the same products as his (or what he used to make), and they're a bit less pricey: Health Freedom Resources
Although there's a link to our Apothecary (where prices average close to a 50% saving for better/equivalent products than the two above) at the top of every forum page, and although I can't/won't prevent anyone from ordering what they need...Rocky and I really prefer you order elsewhere. That's because we both discern that your 'jumping into this' is bound to result in some type of negative situation...and we do not want to be part of that in any way (via our Storefront/Apothecary or this forum).
I don't think I need to hold someone's hand every minute of it. I don't want you to write me a book, unless you can write it tonight. :) Well it's 1:30 am here, and I don't know if that qualifies for "tonight" or not, but it's all I can squeeze in. I sure hope you don't find yourself in need of any (even weensy-bit) of 'hand holding' on your journey!
Healthiest & happiest of the New Year -
Uny
I felt better as soon as I ealized I needed a little more HC. My MD tests for Estrogen, so these hormones wouldn't cause most of these problems unless the E got elevated, and Progest-E can balance it. It's certainly your choice to handle your body however you prefer based on what you think, know & believe. For what it's worth, I don't agree that "MDs & tests" and other drugs/supplements can keep you safe & problem-free.
Anyway, I want to quit taking all this stuff. I HATE taking all these things, and vitamins & minerals, all of it. Again fwiw, it's my opinion it's pretty much impossible for a human on this toxic, soil & oxygen depleted planet to get enough nutrients without taking some type of Superfood blend/s daily and doing lots of regular maintenance on their body/organs.
I may have to wean off of T shots too. I quit it last Summer and started to feel depressed and couldn't sleep well. With all the drugs & isolated chemicals you're taking, it's pretty-much impossible to know what action all the drugs & isolated chemicals are having separately (and together), and what causes what. Maybe your MD can help you figger it out. 'Seems you and he/she have it under control. Again, fwiw: VERY IMPORTANT SCHULZE STUFF
If I was to buy Schulze items right now, which should I get, the 30 day Healthy Start Vitality Program or the Kidney, Liver, and Bowel detox programs? You may not like what I'm about to say, but there's some things I absolutely will not do...and that's make any type of product recommendations "blindly" to someone as compromised as yourself (with SO many issues)...without knowing a more complete history AND knowing that they're willing to learn what they need to know in order to utilizing herbs & cleanses safely. So (from your post below), since you're not willing to do even wait to get even a weeny part of the information I feel is necessary in order to ensure your safe and knowledgeable usage, then I'm not willing to 'go there'.
Why? My purpose in having this forum is to TEACH others how to make the right decision for themselves (within the areas I feel I know & understand enough to teach); my purpose is NOT to substitute for a physician, counselor or other type of healer, and hand out "prescriptions".
Like I'm always saying, it KNOWLEDGE that's the key to vibrant health! I certainly & sincerely hope you have (or gain) enough knowledge to safely achieve the healing and health every human on this planet so truly deserves.
Blessings - Uny
Joseph