i personally don't think the cause of serious life-altering dysbiosis is as simple as overuse of antibiotics. if this were the case then megadosing of probiotics would solve the problem, but this does not always work for people.
There are several reasons behind this. First of all not all probiotic sources are not live. Capsuled probiotics could have sat on the shelves of warehouses or stores for years reducing their numbers or killing them altogether. Sometimes they are shipped in the heat of summer in unrefrigerated trucks also killing them. Some products, such as "live culture yogurts" are rarely live. They were live at one time, such as before pasteurization. But if the bacteria were still live in the containers then they would continue to ferment the sugars present including those added to sweeten the yogurt. This would cause the containers to swell, which a lot of people would mistake for the presence of pathogenic bacteria that cause cans of food to swell. Try keeping some store bought kefir in the fridge for a little while and you will see what I mean. The kefir will have live cultures and will cause the container to swell from the fermentation gases. But most "liver culture" yogurts do not do this, which means it is highly unlikely that any of the original cultures are still alive. A problem that has been brought up with freeze dried probiotics is that they likely do not have time to "activate" before passing through the intestinal tract. These are the reasons I prefer live cultured foods to reestablish the flora. These include kefirs, sauerkraut, miso, tempeh, etc.
Even more important though that probiotics are prebioitcs. Prebiotics are fibers that feed the good intestinal flora and allow them to produce their active compounds such as acids, bacteriocides, peroxides and vitamins. The reason these are really more important deals more with the number of different beneficial bacterial strains. There are literally thousands of strains of beneficial bacteria in the intestines. No probiotic supplement is going to replace all these strains. The good news is that antibiotics will not kill off all the bacteria. There will always be survivors. But these need to be fed to increase their numbers as well as to feed the flora that are being replaced. Otherwise the flora simply starve, which does not help the body.
Another problem is that many supplements containing probiotics also add other things that will kill these bacteria immediately. This is such a common formulating mistake. For example, I have seen so many products list beneficial bacteria on their labels, then they add things that kill these bacteria such as goldenseal, barberry, Oregon grape root, coptis (goldthread), oregano, silver, etc.
Alan was following an old recipe to produce some sort of fermented apple concoction. The recipe called for apple juice. Alan purchased a bottle of organic apple juice. According to the label, there was nothing in it but organic apples. Yet it killed the microbes. Several times this happened. Alan then called the manufacturer, and after questioning he discovered that ascorbic acid had been added to the organic apple juice as a preservative because it kills bacteria and is cheap. Unfortunately, it does not simply kill bad bacteria, for it gets the good, the bad and the ugly.
This goes back to what I have been trying to tell people for years. Acidity kills most microbes, alkalinity makes them thrive.
And as much as I hate synthetic vitamin C and especially megadosing of the crap the claim is somewhat misleading. The guy was adding the vitamin C (ascorbic acid directly to the bacteria making the environment too acidic for them to survive. Ingesting ascorbic acid is different. It is like how people say if you ingest acidic lemon juice it is going to go alkaline in the body. It is mote really going alkaline per se. As the acid leaves the stomach there is a bicarbonate release from the pancreas, which neutralizes most if not all the acidity. Ascorbic acid will also be buffered as well unless the acidity of the ascorbic acid exceeds the body's buffering capacity. So the first thing that would have to be established is that the ascorbic acid is arriving intact to the colon where most of the flora is. The answer to this is highly unlikely. Even if the ascorbic acid survives the bicarbonate buffering there is still another problem. Synthetic vitamin C is extremely unstable. Back in high school we took synthetic vitamin C crystals and exposed samples to light, heat and moisture. In all cases the synthetic was completely destroyed with 40 minutes. So the destruction of the ascorbic acid begins immediately as soon as you down it with water. And to go from the stomach to the colon takes much longer than 40 minutes. So it is would be about impossible for any of the unabsorbed synthetic ascorbic acid to reach the colon, where most of the flora resides, intact.
But there is still more to this. As excess ascorbic acid breaks down it forms another acid called oxalic acid. Oxalic acid is a very strong tissue irritant and it also binds minerals such as calcium preventing the body from utilizing them. How this will affect the body depends in large part on whether or not the excess ascorbic acid is absorbed. If absorbed, the oxalic acid formed from the breakdown of the ascorbic acid will bind calcium in the blood and will be excreted through the urine. This is why ascorbic acid can lead to UTIs and increase the risk of calcium oxalate stones in some individuals. If broken down in the intestines the oxalic acid will bind to calcium in the intestines preventing its absorption. The oxalic acid can also irritate the intestinal tissues leading to inflammation, water release and increased peristalsis leading to diarrhea.
Back to the original point though. How something reacts when directly applied to living cells does not mean this will happen in the body. I give an example of this with the researcher's claim that Saint Johnswort causes infertility in this post:
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1525662#i
Oh good! I was hoping you'd appear.
I don't always check here so if you need faster responses you can always post your questions on my forum.
I will listen now and go get some natural c... I take triphalla so I'm getting amla every day... Although, I just pooped out one of them whole. Will you tell me what brand of triphalla you like please.
I buy it in bulk powder from Starwest Botanicals.
Also, what natural c would be the most compatible with someone who has digestive issues, is sensitive to anything sweet and has Candida?
Acerola cherry, rosehips and amla are all good choices. These herbs also contain some tannins, which also kill yeast.
Where would I go to find some of your formulations online? Thanks!
http://mountainmistbotanicals.com/
Right now everything is in powder form. We have 6 formulas being capsulated right now. They should be done sometime in January and the website will be updated and a shopping cart added. Right now we do orders by phone, fax, mail or can do Paypal.
I'm guessing a product like this would be okay:
http://www.amazon.com/Amla-Natural-Vitamin-250-Veg/dp/B0011Y43YS
Yes, amla is great stuff. The vitamin C in amla is stable and was found to be 12 times stronger than synthetic ascorbic acid. In addition amla protects the DNA from heavy metal damage and raises superoxide dismutase (SOD) levels about 80%. I use amla in a lot of formulations for these reasons.
Make sure it is amla powder though and not standardized. The standardized amla is standardized for tannins, which are antioxidant, but they also bind various nutrients and other beneficial compounds.
I read somewhere that amla is a very poor source of vitamin C...
Yes and no. Amla does contain a fair amount of vitamin C, but not super high like acerola or rosehips. But there is a greater biological activity than many other source. For example, the vitamin C found in amla has been shown to be 12 times stronger than synthetic ascorbic acid. So 100mg of vitamin C from amla would be the equivalent of 1,200mg synthetic ascorbic acid. The vitamin C in amla is also protected from oxidation by the antioxidant tannins in the amla making it a stable form of vitamin C. Synthetic vitamin C (ascorbic acid) on the other hand is extremely unstable.
How much vitamin C is in a teaspoon of amla (please)?
This is going to vary as various constituents do. Where the plants are grown, soil conditions, water levels, time of day they are picked, how ripe they are when picked, etc. all influence nutrient levels in plants.
I could not find any amounts anywhere...
I posted a study on this here:
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1455786