Draining water from the knee is a very simple procedure. They simply insert a syringe and draw it out. They once got almost two cups full from mine. They inject you with Novocain first so it doesn't hurt at all.
If you have water on the knee you could easily have torn cartilage as well. A visit to an orthopedic doctor will drain your water and give you more answers to a problem that could give you continuous difficulty if you don't go.
I hate needles as well so it was only the Novocain that hurt, and only a little. The one that drained the knee has a more terrifying look because it is huge, but it didn't hurt a bit after the numbness.
I seriously doubt that you will find anything that will drain the knee other than rest and staying off of it. If there is any damage at all, any minor activity will just keep creating more fluid and make it worse and for me that's a zillion times worse than a needle. See a doc.
Here's Dr. Weil's solution:
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA310534
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Wondering about Water on the Knee?
I have had fluid drawn from my left knee three times in the past month, and each time the knee refilled in less than a week. What could be causing this? |
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Updated on 6/20/2005 You're describing a condition known as "water on the knee" in which fluid accumulates in or around the knee joint causing swelling and pain. Usually this occurs as the result of a past injury that has led to scarring, which obstructs lymphatic drainage. To determine the cause of your problem, you and your physician will have to discuss your history of injuries to identify one that may be responsible as well as any of your current activities that may play a role. To locate the scarring you may need an x-ray or MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) scan of the knee. In the meantime, a compression bandage might help, and you could consider acupuncture for treatment. |
However, sometimes water on the knee can be the result of overuse - the term "housemaid's knee" was coined to refer to this condition among domestic workers who spent hours each day on their hands and knees scrubbing floors. "Housemaid's knee" is also known as prepattellar bursitis - an inflammation of the bursal sac located between the kneecap and the overlying skin. Repetitive pressure, gout and infection are the most common causes. However, this typically resolves within two weeks if you avoid putting pressure on the knee.
You can try topical DMSO (dimethly sulfoxide) available at health food stores or on the Internet. DMSO penetrates the skin and targets pockets of inflammation, where it stimulates healing. Make a 70 percent solution by diluting a 100 percent solution with distilled water. The mixture will get hot so allow it to cool down before use. Apply it to the affected area with absorbent cotton and let it dry. You can apply the solution three times a day for three days. If you don't see any improvement, stop using it. If you do notice a difference, begin to cut back to twice a day for three more days then once daily for the last three days. After that, your body can continue the healing process on its own.
Osteoarthritis can also cause water on the knee. This happens if the joint becomes inflamed and the membrane (or synovium) which lines the joints secretes an excess of synovial fluid. If you have arthritis, I recommend reading The Arthritis Cure by Jason Theodosakis, MD, Brenda Adderly and Barry Fox, PhD. (St. Martin's Press, 1997) and, for treatment, consider using glucosamine sulfate (1,500 mg daily) with or without chondroitin sulfate (1,200 mg daily).
Andrew Weil, M.D.
Having been through the knee routines - for many years, I'm going to try one more time. As a jogger 25 and 30 years ago both of my knees would bind up and swell up with pain and I had them checked out and was told each time to just back off a bit and sure enough they would get better and I'd go back to jogging. Could do that for about 15 years or so. Then it finally got to the point where just normal walking became painful and had to even give that up for a few days at a time before I could walk again. This went on for about three or four years and I visited an orthopedic doctor during that time who specialized in sports medicine and he never told me what to do, he always left the decisions up to me. I had worn cartilage in spite of taking glucosamine and chondroitin for several years. So, I've tried the alternative route as well. Then it finally got so bad that I opted for replacement in my right knee and eventually had the same thing done in the left knee and am back to walking an hour day at a good pace with no discomfort whatsoever.
You wrote:
"i'm going to try megadosing serrapeptase and anything else i can think of and see if in time it can heal ...annnnny holistic recommendations are still very welcome"
Your approach is not holistic, it is site specific. If you visit an orthopedic doctor you will get a much broader/holistic view. They can tell through joint manipulation (how loose the joint is) along with x-rays where you stand in relation to the health of your joint, and whether or not it is damaged. Right now, you don't have a clue. They can then recommend alternative treatments (as I was given during my knee difficulties) including just staying off of it, and there isn't one of them out there that will force you to take any option including draining it, other than what you are doing. At the same time they will tell by looking at you if you are placing too great a workload on your knees by being too heavy, something that is rarely done via the Internet. When I first developed my knee problem from walking a few years ago, I was fifteen pounds overweight and my doctor was reluctant to do anything until I lost weight, which I did for other reasons. As you can see from the article below, for each pound of weight you lose, it reduces the pressure on your knees by four pounds for every step you take. Weight control is significant for damaged knees.
Having had most every problem with my knees imaginable, I don't like to see others go through the pain that I did before getting something done.
Best to you in whatever route you take.
http://www.healthcentral.com/osteoarthritis/education/weight-loss-study.html
Gaining weight puts a lot of extra stress and strain on your knees, which must bear the brunt of those excess pounds. The added pressure increases wear and tear, contributing to osteoarthritis (OA). On the flip side, losing weight can help you take a load off, literally. One study (Arthritis and Rheumatism, July 2005) found that every lost pound subtracts four pounds of pressure from the knees for each step taken. In practical terms, losing just 10 pounds means that each knee is subjected to 48,000 fewer pounds of pressure for every mile walked.
If you feel pain "abnormally" then I don't quite understand how you are tolerating the pain you have from the knee the way it is. The needle doesn't go into the back of the knee, it goes in the front, along side the knee cap, after it has been numbed with Novocain. I have a fear of heights - so is that why I took up skydiving???? I still have a fear of heights. lol
Here's my take:
1. You had an accident that caused swelling of your knee which we assume is water on the knee.
2. Water on the knee is a symptom of some other problem.
2. A. It is a symptom of damage to your knee. Damage could be:
2. A. a. Sprain. If a sprain, some of the other suggestions you have had should get you through it - or just resting it will also do the trick.
2. A. b. Torn ligament. May heal itself, may not. You can Google solutions for it, but alternative methodology for healing may be low.
2. A. c. Torn cartilage. This can also possibly heal itself but will need assistance. Also Google for this.
2. B. It is definitely a symptom that your lymph system is overworked or plugged up. Edgar Cayce suggested castor oil packs to get the lymph system flowing again. I have used small castor oil packs on my knee with limited success, but it could help the swelling and of course get they lymph flowing. You don't need the heat that Cayce suggests and you can cover it with plastic wrap good enough so that it doesn't get too messy. I used cotton flannel instead of wool, and found it every bit as effective. Yet if there is an underlying condition it probably requires something more.
Finally, if you are truly looking for a holistic healing diagnostic method, try muscle testing. This is the best site that I've found http://www.niehs.nih.gov/research/resources/collab/imacs/docs/activity/MMT8_T... for learning it.
I highly recommend that you get a friend to practice on you as you sit (as shown in the first picture) and have them use the arm/elbow parallel to the ground testing method. I have found that for me the finger method is an unreliable technique and that you are going to get the answers you want instead of the real answers. You can zero in on your condition with "yes" and "no" questions. You could have the tester ask you if your knee is sprained? Is it a torn ligament? Etc. Then you can have the tester go through supplement solutions. If you don't have a particular supplement on hand, write the name of it on a piece of paper and hold it in the hand opposite of the arm that is being tested. In fact, you can do this for any supplement you have, simply hold the supplement in your untested hand - bottle and all, and ask if it is benefiting you. You can do that with simple things too such as salt, sugar, flour, olive oil, and on and on in order to learn your allergies. You can also ask about other solutions such as: doctor draining the knee; doctor diagnosis, surgical procedure required, and on and on. As I said before, I chose an orthopedic doctor who is also a marathoner because I wanted somebody who really knew what it was like to use his knees/legs. If you are a little overweight - don't be afraid to be asked if that is a contribution factor. Remember, we're after the truth and I've found through many many different modularities that - the body does not lie.
I ran across muscle testing almost forty years ago by a practitioner who could also reprogram the subconscious mind. For example - if the tester found that I hated my mother (which I did), she could reprogram me to let it go. (You have to be careful, because the subconscious can reclaim what has been programmed away - it can sometimes be very tricky, and very stubborn.) One may swear on a stack of bibles that they don't hate someone as I did, but muscle testing does not lie. That's a simple example. I know a woman who would muscle test her teen age son to learn whether or not he had been smoking that day - and she did it telepathically instead of verbally. It can be used for all sorts of things, but if you begin asking invasive questions you can easily create karma with the person you are working with. Yup, you can even learn whether or not your partner is cheating on you - and you don't even have to ask the question verbally, asking the question telepathically works every bit as well as verbal. (Oh boy, you could really get wild with that one. Yes, you can, but don't get invasive.)
I eventually found other techniques through psychic healing for issues that I was dealing with so that I didn't need a muscle tester.
I trust you will create an easy healing solution.