Hello #119327,
Firstly, it is gratifying to know that your health has improved thru your time here within curezone: a fairly common experience I think.

However, your comment here..............

"The moderators of some forums say that when a person is too toxic should not try to fast. It is said that such a fast would drive toxins IN (more into the cells), and not OUT. They are not referring to the usual healing crisis. They simply negate the benefits of the fast, and this is to explain it can even be dangerous".

................is just complete nonsense.

I wonder if any of these mod's who have stated this, have any experience or knowledge of water-only fasting at all.
The plain answer is no, they haven't.

My own experience extends over a 30 year period of study after completing two prolonged fasts in the recovery from Leukemia.


A Water-only fast will absolutely NOT drive toxins back into the cells of the body if you are too toxic.
You have four major organs of elimination: the Liver, Kidneys, lungs and skin. They are more than capable of dealing with any amount of toxic overload that anyone may have.

EDIT: Toxins and especially excess toxins are also burnt as fuel for the body during the fasting process.............

"Useless fat and the less essential tissues are consumed first, and the most essential tissues of the body are hardly touched, even where death from starvation results. But never having watched the process they cannot know anything of the rapidity with which dropsical fluid, for example, is absorbed from the cavities or tissues and utilized as food. They cannot know how tumor-like growths are often rapidly absorbed and how, even large tumors are reduced in size. Resolution in pneumonia is hastened, the process taking place so rapidly, often that it would be difficult to believe unless one should see it. "Diseased" tissues are broken down, exudates, effusions and deposits are absorbed and either used or eliminated. The body utilizes everything it can dispense with during a fast in order to preserve the integrity of the essential tissues. The useless and least essential things are sacrificed first".........................
http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020127shelton.III/020127.ch4.htm



First and foremost while eating, if the body is too toxic then you will develop a "cold" which is Natures way of eliminating excess toxins; so people who suffer from frequent colds are very toxic. Do you experience colds and are they frequent?

On the other hand, crises of elimination can occur at any stage of a water-only fast such as nausea with vomiting, (consisting of bile and some stomach acids), skin eruptions, spitting crises and so on, where the body will use every avenue at its disposal in ridding the body of its effluent waste material.

Also, the more toxic you are the more unpleasant the experience of detox' and the more severe the symptoms.

Before delving into a water-only fast, it may be advisable for you to undergo a juice-fast or an Elimination Diet that is plant-based (raw fruits and vegetables) and which is properly combined to minimize or eliminate further toxicity from fermentation and putrefaction, whilst simultaneously eliminating toxins.
This however is a much slower method of eliminating toxemia.

Water-only fasting is the most expedient way of cleansing and healing the body, so it really depends on any time goals that you may have set yourself in achieving those aims.

Try this experiment...........
Live on water only for up to 48 to 72 hours: if you feel very weak and emaciated, experience severe headaches/migraines with accompanying nausea, and feel jittery and really out of sorts, then you are very toxemic; on the other hand if these symptoms are mild or non-existent then you are not that toxemic at all, and may continue without fear of anything you have described in your post.

The mod's that your refer to (sadly) do not know what they are talking about.

Chrisb1.

As a novice at fasting, I would not deign to disagree with Chris. But I will add that for first-time fasting, beginning with a lot of toxicity can be a severe test of mental resolve. On my first fast I had multiple successive cleansing crises, and I was simply not prepared to endure them for more than a week, and broke my first fast at 8 days.

For the next two months before beginning my present fast (day 9 now) I primarily ate raw vegetables and stayed away from smoke, caffeine, and alcohol. The difference has been remarkable. I'm sure that I got rid of a lot of badness on my first go, but the combination of a curtailed first try and cleaner living before the second has facilitated my entry into a confident full water-only fast (that is, fasting until regaining a clear tongue and natural -not psychological- hunger.

For beginners like me, fasting unsupervised (and I believe that I possess relatively strong will-power) I have doubts that continuing beyond the first week with significant toxemia is likely to succeed, because the psychological toll can be immense. The trials of back-to-back cleansing crises really beat me down, even though I was powerfully motivated to achieve the full benefits of a full water-only fast on my first embarkation.

My novice advice is that if you have a very rough time at the outset of a first-time fast, don't consider it a defeat to transition into less-aggressive detox methods like juicing or a reduced & raw diet. It's like going to sea for the first time- you may not develop your "sea-legs" on the first voyage, but take courage that most of us struggle mightily the first time out, while the "old hands" take to it like ducks to water. I think it's largely a matter of visceral and psychological experience.

Aborting my first fast, and getting well-provisioned nutritionally for the next are what prepared me to enter my second fast with more comfort, and a growing confidence in my ability to complete the process this time.

A curtailed fast is no defeat, if it is regarded as part of preparation for a more protracted one. Don't let an interruption in a fast turn you off from fasting in general.

Never be discouraged!