Message From Moreless 
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Hi Ya'll,
As most of you know the reason this website has come into being is because of the action curezone took to prevent me from posting in the Private Ask Moreless forum given to me on curezone, which was helping Many folks find Healing without selling them products and taking away their Hard earned Money.
My question is How can it be a Private forum when they allow the Trash of curezone to have full run of curezone and attack rentlessly?
After my ban from my own Private Ask Moreless forum on curezone, which by the way seemed to help More folks fine True healing without Selling them products than any other forum on curezone, which may be seen by the many Success Testimonials, which had been given on my Private forum, Dushan made this anouncement:
Moreless Status by Webmaster ..... Webmaster Support & Suggestions
Date: 9/30/2009 9:23:25 AM ( 57 days ago)
Popularity: 903
URL: //www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1499429
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Moreless was restricted from posting on CureZone during the last several days.
Breach of CureZone TOS.
Today his restrictions have been lifted.
Why were the restrictions lifted?
Cause there are many on CureZone who depend on his advice.
He is on Parole!
He can not continue the way it was done before.
So far, everybody agrees, he was his own worst enemy.
It is his own messages that caused most of the problems.
There are several requirements he and other curezoners have to satisfy to avoid restrictions again.
- he is not allowed to comment what is going on in other forums (that was what innitiated the latest 3rd world war)
- he is not allowed to breach curezone TOS.
- he will not have forum moderator privileges on his own forum, except for moving unchanged messages to a debate forum.
One of the problems was too much of power abuse.
Instread, a person, a supporter of his forum, will overtake moderator job. Someone who likes his forum, but is more conservative in using powers.
No message editing of other posters is allowed, unless it is to remove spam.
- those who have been biting him so far are not allowed to do so inside the safety of their own private forums!
That is against CureZone TOS/guidelines, and they risk the same treatment Moreless got.
They know who they are.
Criticizing is allowed inside a forum called " CureZone Experts Debate"
//www.curezone.org/forums/f.asp?f=573
There are few other Debate Forums where teory can be debated.
So, if you disagree with his message, complain inside
CureZone Experts Debate
//www.curezone.org/forums/f.asp?f=573
That is it.
Webmaster
My Answer to this: I was waiting til Evan had gotten the Login corrected to make it easier for New folks to follow directions and make it easier to follow before posting on curezone and last nite Evan got this change made to this site.
Last nite I was going to post and Thank Dushan for allowing me the time he did for having the Ask Moreless Forum on curezone, but to my surprise I was unable to access and post on my supposedly Private forum?
I was also going to provide a Link to this new site and explain that I felt it in the best interest of all concerned that I would no longer answer any questions on curezone and that those Genuinely Seeking healing would need to come and register at this New website to obtain answers from me in a Safe forum away from the Bashing and Complaining that persisted on curezone.
My question is, if Dushan's above commment that I was unbanned and could post was the Truth, then Why was I not able to access and Thank Him by making a post in the supposed Private forum he had given me? The fact was I could not even post in the Webmaster support forum to Thank him.
As the Good Book states: A tree does not produce Good fruit and Poisonous fruit.
What kind of fruit is curezone producing when Dushan makes the above comment, yet I cannot even access and Thank him on the supposed Private forum he had given me in the 1st place?
It is Sad to see such actions come from a site that supposedly started out as a Good thing and now end this way.
But, like I say:
Cause and Effect!
When we make Good choices we shall receive Blessings.
When we make Poor choices we shall surely receive Cursings.
Smile Tis your choice.
http://www.SicknessHope.com
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- Re: Message From Moreless trapper/kcmo
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this is a perfect example of why you have had so much trouble here.
this site has crashed twice since your latest fiasco. its a big site and the Webmaster did a superb job of saving everything. a simple, "i cant seem to access my forum" would have sufficed, for anyone else but you, that is.
you wouldnt have a following at all without curezone. i hope you keep that in mind in your future dealings here. curezone is your best friend on the internet, not your enemy. i hope you treat it and the Webmaster as such.
all the best at your new forum.- Re: Message From Moreless refreshed
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This is a reply to # 1,530,675A simple "I disagree" from you would have sufficed as well but I see that you did not feel that was good enough.
I'm not sure why you mentioned curezone having problems with the change in software. Everyone expects that the Webmaster will take care of what is important to him. Of course he will fix that problem...we all have no doubt that it will be handled because thats what webmasters do.
As far as your comment "you wouldnt have a following at all without curezone"....would only be true if ML never attempted to teach anywhere else besides curezone. Since he was inspired by his mentors and God's Spirit to teach pH balance, he has been teaching and has inspired others to continue in his footsteps. Curezone was just one platform. So I believe that to be an unnecessary statement to make. You should have just stuck with "I disagree", in my honest opinion, but again the double standard still reigns and I'm sure I will be disagreed with.
- Re: Message From Moreless spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,530,863If ML has set up another website, merely giving the details of where his followers can find him would have been enough. If his interest was in helping people, all his spitefull comments would be totally unnecessary, but as usual this is obviously not his intention, stirring up trouble, and using someone else as his proxy to do this, is what he is about. If ML feels so maligned by those on curezone, why is he bothering to send his messengers here?
spud- Re: Message From Moreless trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,530,866" giving the details of where his followers can find him would have been enough"
that would be too simple and not get enough attention. - Re: Message From Moreless refreshed
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”The formula you guys have developed is so gentle, unique, and effective.”
I would have thought it would be obvious that I'm posting for ML because he can't.
The Ask Moreless forum is still here, so I do believe an explanation is needed. Some will be staying here to teach and some to learn and others will seek the new website. It's pretty simple. Many leaders of forums have gone on to do their own websites and still have a forum here on curezone.
Don't worry, you are in the right place for learning what you wish to learn. This message is not for you to concern yourself with...it's for others who wish to know more about ML and what he is doing and why things sometimes change due to circumstances beyond our control.
- Re: Message From Moreless trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,530,873you accused the Webmaster of being a liar. that concerns everybody here. you better have more to back that up than just your meager perception.
and why does it take 100 words to say what i can say in ten? i dont get that.- Re: Message From Moreless refreshed
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This is a reply to # 1,530,897The Webmaster is a busy man and has to decide for himself what is the most important thing to handle first every day. We all get that but there is nothing wrong in pointing out to someone that keeping their word is important too.
Have a nice day Trapper.
- Re: Message From Moreless trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,530,909dont piss on me and tell me its raining. a gentle reminder, that was not. it was a public accusation.
i am having a fine day, thank you. same to you.- Re: Message From Moreless refreshed
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This is a reply to # 1,530,919
If I made the statement: "Trapper, you have not changed in all the years that I have known you on curezone."
How would you read that?
Positive....negative?
If your best friend said that to you?
It's interesting how the mind works.
The truth is....I'm the only one that knows what the true answer is. My close friends would probably be the next people in line to know the true answer.
I never set out to piss on anyone....I just know how ML thinks, how he words things and what is important to him. I took the time to get to know him and what his meaning of phrases are....people who take the time with each other can do that.
Years ago people told me I should look at you differently and I did. I can now see the good in you that I could not when I first came to curezone. That is one of the wonderful things ML helped me do.
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- Re: Message From Moreless trapper/kcmo
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,530,930the statement would be untrue.
i have my own forum for this nonsense. i am simply challenging the accusation that the Webmaster lied, like its some kind of evil plot against the eternal victim/victimizer.
the least ML could do is own his own shit.
John 3:20
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
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- Re: Message From Moreless grzbear
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This is a reply to # 1,530,909>>"The Webmaster is a busy man and has to decide for himself what is the most important thing to handle first every day."<<
We all do that... establish our priorities on a daily basis... true enough.
>>"We all get that but there is nothing wrong in pointing out to someone that keeping their word is important too."<<
absolutely...
the negative votes are a reflection of those who do not accept, or for whatever reason, choose to fight against the truth... or perhaps, cannot comprehend it.
lines are being drawn...
grz-
- exactly who has not kept their word? trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,530,934"We all get that but there is nothing wrong in pointing out to someone that keeping their word is important too."
this accusation, as yet, has no basis in fact. this discussion is moot.
- exactly who has not kept their word? trapper/kcmo
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- Re: Message From Moreless grzbear
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This is a reply to # 1,530,866The intention of ML's posting first and foremost was to, in his words, >>"Thank Dushan for allowing me the time he did for having the Ask Moreless Forum on curezone"<<
This thread is a very good example of people reading into what they want to in a post, rather than what was intended.
I will repeat this, from another post I made in this thread...
>>"ML was supposedly reinstated, was informed of this, and chose not to post. When he finally decided to, and attempted to post to thank Dushan for his forum and time here, and then move on he could not...
ML has not posted since well before, and was not here to know of, witness, or understand, the last crash/issues/problems... you, and many others are well aware of, and know that... in this context any misunderstanding between ML and the site/Dushan, should be forgiven."<<
grz-
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- Re: Message From Moreless trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,530,915James 3:11
Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?
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- Re: Message From Moreless InnerCalm
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This is a reply to # 1,530,866There are those who influence and those who are influenced and gradients of the two.
All the rest is details based on mind filters.
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- Re: Message From Moreless grzbear
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This is a reply to # 1,530,675trapper... I am grateful for ML's time here. with your implication, you are right that "some" of us may not have stumbled onto him without CZ, however, he teaches many others outside of CZ - neighbors, friends, family.
Following ML has nothing to do with it... it is common sense. Most who frequent ML's forums do not appear to be "followers" to me. They bring many self researched posts to the forums. Examples of self starters and people who have taken responsibility for themselves. These people also teach, help, and work with those around them... true leaders.
Most bring their own research and experiences to the fore... like the post of using milk of magnesia for poison oak if I remember right... or "why" calamine lotion works.
Understanding the pH balancing principles opens up the door to understand, and use what one has at hand to resolve symptoms, and cure...
I likely would have found ML one way or the other, with or without CZ, as I was already heading in that direction - I think I wandered into the acid/alkaline forum about a week before ML's...
I do not think you could call me a follower... however, without doubt, I have great "respect" for my teacher in spite of his failings... we are all human.
Common sense... and a background in organismal biology, ecology, and fundamental chemistry led me to pH balancing and the growth in knowledge I have enjoyed as a result I am sure.... so my background already had me on the "path".
As an example of where it has led me, the recent posts by another about betulinic acid, and its recent findings to benefit hepatitis, HIV, and cancer, led me to astragallus and betulinic acid's affinity to selenium.
Look up astragallus and any of these conditions... it will blow you away.
This knowledge in turn led me to synthetic betulinic acid/selenium based patents, which in turn led me to further understand how pharmaceutical companies patent synthetic compounds and then turn back around and accuse an herbal supplement of infringing on that patent - containing "THEIR" patent compound - the very herb or plant family that led them to their patent... biting the VERY hand that feeds them.
I have pointed out this exact scenario occurring at least twice before, once with erectile dysfunction drugs and herbs from the Berberidaceae family.
Not many respond to these posts... Who knows why... but it is a revelation in terms of pulling back the curtain.
It is far too easy to understand these things when one knows pH balancing principles... even a primitive/tribal man could do it... and DID.
We also know from pH balancing that the quality of the herb has a direct bearing on its efficacy... if any particular herb is too acidic or alkaline it affects its quality and efficacy... pH balancing and growing conditions.
Common sense...
I know that Kervran's biological transmutation theory could very easily be correct based upon pH balancing principles...
And that pleomorphism and microorganisms change in function are also based upon pH balancing principles.
I also know why and how zappers, magnetic and electronic devices work because of understanding these principles... and that they are not required for survival.
I also know why Colloidal Silver works... the VERY same reason limewater works, though silver and calcium have different acidic affinities - calcium being more broad spectrum efficacious.
I would never have thought these things without knowing and understanding the alkaline acid balancing principles... and although ML, did not outright state the things I am, his posts, and my research led me to discover them for myself.
A good "teacher" never does the work for the student. ML does not - and it pisses those people off who want the work done for them and refuse to take responsibility for themselves.
I would suspect that many here have benefited from my many posts - most of them based upon my understanding of the pH balancing principles.
I would suspect, those that read this one will benefit too... if from nothing else, the astragallus ditty will further open those dreamy/sleepy eyes.
grz-
- the implication was that the webmast... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,530,878thats what i objected to. that and this dirty laundry in public. i guess its an american thing.
and yea, yea, yea, i get what a great guy he is. why bust curezones balls? because he can? because curezone deserves it? you know better than that, and so does he.
i am about to finish up a bottle of astragallus tincture as we speak.- Re: the implication was that the web... grzbear
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,530,895Curezone is not without is flaws... you and I both know that.
It is also not without its collective individual faults of everyone who posts and advertises including both of us.
one takes the good with the bad... and tries like he!! to discern the truth from the chaos.
ML was supposedly reinstated, was informed of this, and chose not to post. When he finally decided to, and attempted to post to thank Dushan for his forum and time here, and then move on he could not...
ML has not posted since well before, and was not here to know of, witness, or understand, the last crash/issues/problems... you, and many others are well aware of, and know that... in this context any misunderstanding between ML and the site/Dushan, should be forgiven.
While I certainly can understand a site crash and loss of data from time to time... posts lost to both CZ's large site issues/crashes that I have witnessed were very convenient - a little too coincidental... though given the benefit of the doubt will grant their loss coincidental status, forgive and forget about it, and move on.
Water under the bridge.
I will likely not be around much here anymore anyway... From time to time for nostalgic reasons and to read a post or three from those I have become online friends with... I am not learning or being challenged anymore to understand things as I have been in the past. And I have become disgusted with some people's behavior.
I understand and forgive individual behavior and craziness due to our poisoned world, which affects brain chemicals, hormones, etc. or their overuse of one thing or another that may cause these same imbalances, however I can choose not to live, or spend my time in the midst of it.
grz-
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