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I'm new to chelating and think I'm doing it wrong. I've been taking lots of Vitamin C and using ozone and my nerves feel shot. Always trembling and feeling numbness in extremities.
I guess I need to combine different types of chelators?
I think I'm not mixing them with a extracelluar chelator to prevent reabsorbtion and am detoxing too quickly.
From the little research I've done:
1. Vitamin C is gets inside the cells?
2. Alpha Lipoic Acid gets inside the cells?
3. Cilantro gets inside the cells?
4. EDTA?
5. Ozone/Oxygen Therapy?
6. Chlorella is for outside the cells?
7. DMSA or DMPS is for outside?
8. Iodine/Iodide?
Anymore? I was thinking of combining Cilantro, Chlorella, Ozone, Lugol's Iodine, and Vitamin C.
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This is a reply to # 1,518,623What type of ozone are you using?
Liposomal glutathione (Readisorb) is an intra cellular antioxidant.
When I used ozone (medical grade) I used chlorella as the primary toxin collector. Also lots of liver cleansers such as buplernum combination from Planetary Formulas, lots of vitamin C etc. Also look at bulk charcoal (see Tom Harrelson's page about this) with some fiber products.
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This is a reply to # 1,518,623First question, what are you tring to chelate? Did you take a hair analysis to verify that this heavy metal is actually the problem?
Did you read the Cutler Protocol? A summary is below.
http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/Andy_dose_sched.html
Did you know that improper (fast) chelation is actually extremely harmful and people have died? EDTA being the worst.
Are you aware that chelators interact in sometimes unpredictable ways and that in general you shouldn't mix chelators (unless an expert tells you they go together well, like DMSA/ALA)?
The feeling of your nerves being shot are heavy metals (probably mercury) swimming around your body and redistributing because you're not doing the chelation properly.
Chelation done properly should not be a painful experience where the user suffers.
I recommend actually following Cutlers protocol. In most cases he recommends start with DMSA (ONLY) first, but it completely depends on WHAT you are trying to chelate.
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1. Vitamin C is gets inside the cells? Vitamin C does get inside cells but is so weak a chelator, as to be almost completely worthless when used as such. Make sure you use non-acidic vitamin C.
2. Alpha Lipoic Acid gets inside the cells? Check out the last guy's link to the cutler protocol. Cutler protocol will solve your mercury problem
3. Cilantro gets inside the cells? I think cilantro mobilizes mercury but not well or reliably. It may mobilize mercury that then gets stored in your brain, much better to do the Cutler protocol.
4. EDTA? Only EDTA worth doing is the IV EDTA chelation for lead and removing calcium from plaque in your arteries(better circulation). Ive heard EDTA chelation also removes some aluminum but I may be wrong. Oral EDTA is absorbed like 4% and is not effective, even at high dosages.
5. Ozone/Oxygen Therapy? Probably best to do after several months AFTER chelation. Oxygen+heavy metals=lots of free radicals=more physical symptoms.
6. Chlorella is for outside the cells? IDK
7. DMSA or DMPS is for outside? DMSA is mostly for body (doesnt cross brain barrier) mercury, whereas Cutler protocol (alpha lipoic acid) is for body and brain mercury.
8. Iodine/Iodide? Lugol's Iodine is great stuff (I'm on it). It is supposed to push floride, bromide, and some mercury out of your body.
I recemmend doing Cutler's protocol but adding 500mg of non acidic vitamin C with everytime you take alpha lipoic acid. You will repeat the protocol every week or every other week until your mercury drops sufficiently. Take 4 drops of Lugol's Iodine a day but take breaks occasionally.
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This is a reply to # 1,605,295EDTA absorbs well in the rectum, and if done at home is much less expensive than IVs are. Lots of companies sell EDTA suppositories, which deliver the EDTA into the rectum, and from there into the blood.
The suppositories are overpriced (although not as expensive as IVs are), and a way to make the process even less expensive, is simply to buy EDTA on any major supplement selling website, open up the capsule and put it into a little water, and put that into an enema bottle to be put into the rectum.
Another thread:
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This is a reply to # 2,138,621Really happy to see an up-to-date conversation about oral EDTA.
I bought 500g of the Calcium EDTA here in the UK; no Magnesium EDTA available that I can find; and am trialling it for atherosclerosis and my partner's prostate issues.
Using it rectally is apparently better for prostate issues so i simply filled an 00 size vegetarian capsule and hubby inserts it at night time - with much complaint!
He has felt some relief when peeing next morning but needs to be constantly reminded to use.
I am just now about to start to take 500mg x 2 daily, one in the morning, one at bedtime, so I can take my supplements somewhere in between to avoid the good bits being chelated out.
I will do this for 3 months as that is what the trials showed made some difference.
No angina for 6 years now but the descending arteries are quite blocked and I guess other vessels also. Feeling fit and well but can't run for more than a couple of minutes as the oxygen flow to the heart/lungs is poor.
Would really like to hear about anybody else's plans and progress and whether in your country you are able to source Magnesium EDTA.
May try Liposomal soon as well as was doing well with Lipo Vit C but got sidetracked.
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This is a reply to # 2,147,518***No angina for 6 years now but the descending arteries are quite blocked and I guess other vessels also. Feeling fit and well but can't run for more than a couple of minutes as the oxygen flow to the heart/lungs is poor***
I did IV some 16 yr ago for BP reasons. Sat with many who went with bypass surgery first, then the chelation. They had endured much pain & suffering. I guess the surgeons put the fear into them that surgery was “urgent”. So before it becomes “urgent” for you, I vote for IV now while there is yet a choice. My guess is that it is faster acting than the pills???
The Dr placed me on a Colon Cleanse formula to expedite the exit of what the IV stirred up.
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This is a reply to # 2,147,561Thanks; doing the pills, 1500mg daily on as empty a stomach as possible. Feeling good, a little tired. On it for 8 days and actually walking uphill is much improved. Also doing the 5 tibetans exercises in the morning which strengthen the upper body a lot. So, lets wait and see. The Chelation route could only be done privately here and in London its quite expensive.
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This is a reply to # 2,147,561Thanks; doing the pills, 1500mg daily on as empty a stomach as possible. Feeling good, a little tired. On it for 8 days and actually walking uphill is much improved. Also doing the 5 tibetans exercises in the morning which strengthen the upper body a lot. So, lets wait and see. The Chelation route could only be done privately here and in London its quite expensive.
I used herbs a lot to keep liver/kidney and colon cleansed.
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